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Your subject for today was born in Kaliningrad, Russia on August 3rd, 1995. She measures 5’9″, 37E-25-41(!). Please stop oppressing short legged doggies and welcome, Miss Anastasiya Kvitko!
September 23, 2016
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The Official Sports Team of The Hostages
March 3, 2021
Our government is a giant shitball of incompetents, liars and fascist pricks.
Get TITS2 & The H2 Stuff
Flawlessly naming puppies since March 2009 
Oh yea
HIp, hip, hooray! Fleshy!
Golden Ratio of T to A
wakey wakey
I have seen images of her, I always assumed they were p-shopped.
This must be what bucks feel like when they scent does in heat.
She looks like one of those idiot Kardashians.
Did she do something to her waist?
She looks like one of those idiot Kardashians.
As opposed to the intelligent Kardashians?
More likely she did something to her butt.
butt stuff
She looks well fed for a Russian. She must be connected.
Which causes me to wonder why we’ve never had a Korean BBF model.
I’m sure Jay has a lot going on now but when he gets a chance to catch up Ima just leave this here for him
http://paqui.com/reaper/
I’d wager this lass is South Korean
https://is.gd/5weMLF
Wow, robust. Nice job, Pups.
https://is.gd/u7THia
She seems bouncy.
Crazy
https://is.gd/ffwGF3
Glad to see you’re still with us, MJ.
Thanks.
After living here for a few years it’ll be nice to move to the Midwest.
You should buy the house next to Carin’s.
Mare been around lately?
She’s been around the block.
A few times.
Not since you scared her off with the idea of meeting you.
Ah, yes, a full set of curves.
Who left the fucking door unlocked?
Drudge has a chyron.
I repeat
Trump has a Chyron!
http://tinyurl.com/z489rjm
OH sure, couldn’t name it synthohol, like in Star Trek…
Hahaha
Cankles is asking for a
booster seatstep stool for the debate.I trust synthetic alcohol less than brown meth.
You’d think she would be afraid of falling off. Supposedly she’s getting a modified podium instead.
A modified podium with a handicap ramp and grab bars?
Multiple tactical pillows
Trump is supposedly a negotiator. Let’s see what he gets as a concession. Maybe just publicizing it is enough compensation
You’d think she would be afraid of falling off. Supposedly she’s getting a modified podium instead.
I hear Hoveround’s Premium series of motorized podiums are perfect for the active senior politician.
Pretty sure it’s spelled cynthohol.
I have a question about something on Dad’s uniform. I was wondering what this is called, so I can get an explanation on a handout I am coming up with, for the awards and insignia on his uniform. Any help is appreciated:
On the front of the uniform
Jay, it’s the medical service corps branch insignia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Medical_Department_(United_States)#Medical_Service_Corps_.28MS.29
http://tinyurl.com/zy2f5ld
I’m not drinking synthetic alcohol because Monsanto. Or something.
I had read that she was demanding chairs at the debate. If they are making her stand for an hour, it’s a win. Still hoping for a major malfunction.
Which type of pneumonia makes your eyes point in different directions?
Well, CoLex beat me to it.
Comment by leoncaruthers on September 23, 2016 10:51 am
Not since you scared her off with the idea of meeting you.
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You are incorrect, Sir.
Bah, you’re not even here now.
I wore Medical Service Corps insignia while still in med school. Got the Medical Corps ones after graduation.
Thank you very much! Just didn’t have the right name!
As larry the cableguy says
“Those of you that don’t hunt may not realize that a deer gets a new rack every year.
Just like the kardashians”
This place is less classy without Cyn.
There, I said it.
*noo yawk tuff guy voice
I got your CLASSY right heah!
*checks package
http://www.westernfreepress.com/2016/09/23/left-quietly-losing-culture-wars/
It was only a matter of time until she left us.
Good Stuff Wiser.
Good Stuff Wiser.
Thanks. Had that rolling around in my head all week and finally had the time to write it down.
That could be a 3 page article with more examples.
Tweeted
Are you thinking of leaving us Carin?
That could be a 3 page article with more examples.
I so wanted to link those nudes of Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer, but I didn’t want to disgust people away from finishing.
Well done, wiser. My only dissapointment is that you didn’t find the time and space to skewer that life support system for a nice set of tits aka Sarah Silverman. Her stupidity really reeks. But I know that with so many targets in the field, you have to take a pass on some trophy grade mounts.
It was only a matter of time until she left us.
Something I don’t know?
>>I so wanted to link those nudes of Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer, but I didn’t want to disgust people away from finishing.
Believe me, after seeing those two in the buff, no one be in the mood for ‘finishing ‘
Why did Cyn abandon us?
1. New pool boy(s)
b. Incarceration (mental hold counts)
iv. Chained in XBrad’s basement
ie. Removed by the Clinton machine
Not since you scared her off with the idea of meeting you.
https://is.gd/BhIby9
Pupster is funny bastard.
I don’t have a basement.
Check the crawl space
Vid out on the charlotte shooting. Came form the wife’s phones. Immediately after the shots you can see the gun on the ground next to the cop wearing the red shirt. He then moves over the gun.
Interesting exchange. She (the wife) tells him (dead guy) not to “do it” repeatedly after the cops issue the “drop the gun” command.
But hey, the cops shot a disabled man with a book.
Today’s model made me look up kalingrad and I learned some knowledge
http://www.rferl.org/a/kaliningrad-russia-nato-west-strategic/27079655.html
For some reason I thought it was the new name for Stalingrad but it’s much more.
The effect this will have on Charlotte is profound.
Anyone want to travel there anytime soon?
Property values down.
>>But hey, the cops shot a disabled man with a book.
He was an honors student, and was about to solve world hunger once and for all.
Cruz did the honorable thing. I hope the NeverTrumper Asshole brigade follows.
At the company water cooler chats, I shut down Hillary fans and fence sitters with just one thought:
The choice is between a bumbling clown and an evil criminal. And I choose the clown over the criminal.
How is it fair Mr. Cankles gets to go to Pedo Island fifteen times, and Weiner gets subpoenaed after texting just one 15 year old girl?
Do we have different standards for different politicians?
>>Do we have different standards for different politicians?
Mars or Jupiter? You are obviously from a different planet.
Hi y’all.
*waves to Jay and wishes him well as we drive through Cedar Rapids*
So, from the above mention of another ‘din-do-muffin’, sounds like the wife egged him on and should be charged…if she told him not to do what the cops told hom to do.
And Cankles, what they are going to do is strap her upright in one of those frames that the special school district uses for the severely disabled kids…’modified podium’. If she goes into a freeze no one will know unless her eyeballs spin in different directions.
Hotspur, good question.
Tushar, you should ask the Hillary supporters that question.
he looks really nice, relaxed and at peace. really hit home now.
Jay, hugs to you. How old was your dad?
Jay, my condolences.
83.
J’Ames, I was sorry to hear of your dad’s passing. I got the impression that he, like you, is a Cardinals fan. It may be cold comfort, but I will take this occasion to note that he went to his rest without ever having to see the Cubs win a World Series, which I know is a thing for guys like you.
May he rest in peace.
Holly guacamole, lots of flooding in Iowa. Water up to the road in Cedar Falls and Waterloo.
Awwww, Jay. “Relaxed and at peace” is really as good as it gets/
15 inches in 4 hours? Yeesh.
(((HUGS))) J’ames.
15 inches in 4 hours? Yeesh.
https://is.gd/de7etu
Where are you headed, beasn?
Yeah, I’m almost afraid to go home. My sump pump gave out a couple years ago, and flooded the basement. Don’t really want to see that again.
Ready for a night out in Charlotte:
https://is.gd/vEulZn
https://is.gd/beasnesenesedseneeknesnkenes
Dan and I planned to watch Mag 7 tomorrow. Club Mgr changed my schedule and now I’m working. He says he’s going without me. (He’s bluffing)
WC race is heating up. Getting exciting. Love SEPTEMBER BASEBALL
Put some plastic wrap over your Wheaties, oso. scott will be along to piss in them in short order, I suspect.
Go Tigers.
*hears the sound of pants unzipping in the next room*
You pee on Corn Flakes.
>>Comment by lauraw on September 23, 2016 8:29 pm
*hears the sound of pants unzipping in the next room*
>>Comment by scott on September 23, 2016 8:29 pm
You pee on Corn Flakes.
What the hell is going on at the W household???
I don’t know how anyone isn’t excited by the NL WC.
I don’t have Wheaties or Corn Flakes!!!
Vin Scully night at LAD. Dan extends his Dodger H8 to Vin. I respect him.
I don’t even know what ‘nl wc’ refers to.
New Less Wraithlike Clowns?
Nerf Little White Cats?
Neverending Luscious Watermelon Cupcakes?
Nicholas Loved Wealthy Customers
Now Lost Without Cyn
https://is.gd/9GJaBU
Never Loan Wayne Cash
Need “Loosening”? White Castle.
Never Liked William Clinton
Comment by osoloco11 on September 23, 2016 8:09 pm
WC race is heating up. Getting exciting. Love SEPTEMBER BASEBALL
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They’re still playing baseball? I thought they quit once football started.
Now Lost Without Cyn works! National League Wild Card just seems sad and pathetic…now. AL WC is exciting, too. I H8 the DH though so…meh
The DH is bullshit. Always has been. I hates it. Verlander is actually a good batter.
Mickey Lolich hit a fucking home run in the 1968 World Series.
I get in numerous arguments about the DH rule with pansy ass losers in the ghetto bar.
It would be hilarious if that eventually got you killed, Hospurt.
I mean, not for your lovely wife and your family, but for the rest of us.
I’ve been your moms designated hitter for years. She seems to like it.
The people in the ghetto bar are my buddies. They only kill hipster douchebags with out of control beards.
But if you came I would defend you. I had to defend MJ with his smallish hands and high voice.
DH – douchebag hipster
Is the DH rule anything like the DP rule?
Hey, I may be a douchebag and my beard may be out of control, but I’m NOT a hipster.
Do NOT google that.
I’ve never heard of your favorite band.
Is the DH rule anything like the DP rule?
Not really. While some players may not agree with having a Designated Hitter, it’s generally okay for them to make eye contact with him.
I’ve never heard of your favorite band.
Obligatory.
You are incorrect Shawn, you are not a douchebag. I don’t pay any attention to what the other hostages say in private chat.
We weren’t talking about Schaughn.
Shauwnn is one of the most laid back sonsabitches I’ve ever had the pleasure of sitting with.
He basically sits back and observes.
I may have to root for the AL in the Post-Season. KMN
Scott, we just got done visiting with our niece at college (small and private). Brought her a sofa from one of her other uncles. Took her out to dinner. Now we are heading back. Will spend the night back in Cedar Rapids. Might go scouting for Eagles tomorrow or head straight to the farm.
I think it’s a good idea we are leaving tonight. Rivers will be cresting sometime tomorrow and they are shutting down roads and parts of highways RIGHT NOW.
Pro tip for those traveling through Iowa, empty your bowels and bladder before entering. Or bring along your own ports potty and butt wipes. Absolutely nothing but farmland between larger cities.
*hopes my ass doesn’t get any funny ideas in the next 45 minutes 💩*
Oh hey, cute corgi, puppeh.
Shauwnn is one of the most laid back sonsabitches I’ve ever had the pleasure of sitting with.
He basically sits back and observes.
Thank you for the compliment, you DIRTY MOTHERFUCKER.
I don’t know how anyone isn’t excited by the NL WC.
Me. Braves aren’t in it.
National League Water Closet
(((hugs Jay)))
Mr. RFH and I went to a memorial service last night. The priest at our church lost his mom a couple of weeks ago, said a Mass for her yesterday on what would have been her 86th birthday. The bishop emeritus and another Salvatorian priest concelebrated. It was as nice as that sort of thing can be. We had never met her, but we thought a show of support would be good.
Jeez, beasn, I never THAT isolated in Iowa.
You are mistaken. It’s not truly football season until baseball is over.
I’ve made a cheat sheet for everyone, explaining Dad’s awards, and all the pins on his uniform. It was very enlightening.
29 Air Medals. As far as I can tell, it take 10-20 missions to get an Air Medal, and only the first one of the day counts. Blew my mind, how much he flew a Huey.
Was this in Vietnam, J’Ames?
Yes, Sean. Dustoff pilot, evacuating wounded.
Your pops was truly a hero. I’m hoisting an iced tea in his honor.
God bless him, Jay. I bet he saved a lot of lives.
Hoisting a shot of moonshine in his honor.
There is a guy flying in from California, been his friend for 50 years. Says he is one of the reasons for his moral grounding. He is going to read something for his service on Monday. This could be really good.
Mom called back to the caterer, upped the total to 200 people. Many have told her that will be conservative. I’m starting to believe it.
I’m starting to regret volunteering to read and augment the obituary during the service. This is gonna be really hard to get through.
It will be hard, but you’ll make it, Jay. (((moar hugs)))
Thanks, y’all, for listening to my whining.
It’s not whining.
I had to write down my speech for Mom’s funeral, and I had Rocketboy on standby in case I couldn’t speak the words, that he would finish reading it. Oddly enough, the fact that he was right there as backup helped me get through it.
Jay you can do it!! Your Dad made a difference. Prayers and love sent your Lutheran way
Roamy, my grammo didn’t want “She made good tortillas/” as an epitaph.
The thing that will get me through it is the advice that he gave me when I asked him how he got through giving the flag to a widow during a military funeral. He said he just wanted them to have peace, and his performance was part of that. You only have to make it for a couple of minutes, it’s not that bad, when you think in a small portion of time.
Roamy, my grammo didn’t want “She made good tortillas/” as an epitaph.
“She made good tortillas and could kill a man with her bare hands.”
I had to deliver the eulogy for my Grandma. I didn’t write anything down because I was afraid it would sound rehearsed or corny. It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, but I just spoke about who she was and what she meant to our family, and I got through it okay and people seemed to enjoy it. If I could do it, you can.
Jay,
Your dad was a great man. Think of all the lives he saved, at risk of his own.
“Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”
John 13:15
Okay,
I’ve prided myself in never being a “racist”,
I’ve never used “The N Word”, and I’ve had black friends and cow-orkers.
This shit has just gone too far. More that 70% of the arrests in CLT/NC have out-of-state ID. They were bussed-in by Soros, to rob and loot.
Fuck them and the horse they rode in on…
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8635
blerg
Hey, didn’t Cyn’s disappearance follow shortly after someone completely fubar’d the H2? I’m not pointing fingers, but I think there is plenty of blame to go around?
Car in, how many idiots did you strangle tonight? Bitches cut? Chirrun buried in the woods?
Who fubarred the blerg? In what way?
I got the feeling Cyn needed time to grieve besides dealing with personal stuffs.
I could be wrong but that’s what I thought.
ChrisP, I heard that earlier today. Soros fuckers are at it again. They’ve got to keep blacks riled up for the election. Hillary said that if they vote for her, she’ll tell us whiteys to quit shooting them.
Speaking of fat cankled harpies from the bowels of hell….SheBeast has also said she will up the death tax to 65%.
And a lefty judge just ruled the FBI doesn’t have to turn over their unredacted files on Hillary right away. It was hard to hear the Judicial Watch guy, but I thought he said the bulk of them won’t be turned over until AFTER the election.
Banana Republic is here.
Oh, and Missouri is now the battle ground over the senate. DNC is pouring millions into the race to take out Blunt.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……
For BBF.
So don’t you give up now
So easy to find
Just look to your derp
And open your mind
Wife’s taking Possum to Renn Fest today. I am mowing, weeding, and finishing the flamethrower. I promised to only do the water test while she was gone.
Scott is very excited about your flamethrower progress, Leon.
DAMN YOU.
Will you take pics of your path of destruction? That would be cool.
OK, I gotta get ready for woik. Ciao ragazzi
Laura, I fully anticipate a private YouTube or Vimeo link. I’ll take before/after photos of the phragmites zone as well.
wakey wakey.
I did not murder, or even cut or choke, anyone last night.
Today is another day, though.
I did not murder, or even cut or choke, anyone last night.
What are you waiting for? Get to it. Chop. Chop.
I’m in downtown Bangor and there’s another “Walk for the Something” going on. Since there’s a 2:1 ratio of humans to canines I’m guessing it’s a humane society walk. Lots of beautiful dogs passing by!
We really don’t have too many BLM protests around these parts but we did paint a crosswalk in rainbow colors for the gheys
Your mom is a downtown bangor.
This is an awesome video. Not the usual freaky shit I post.
>>We really don’t have too many BLM protests around these parts but we did paint a crosswalk in rainbow colors for the gheys
Can’t the gheys use normal crosswalks like the rest of us? How did they walk around all these years? Poor gheys. I think we need rainbow colored crosswalks everywhere.
Tank port drilled and threaded. Washed and blew (SYWM) all the metal shavings out. Giving it a few minutes to dry before I add the hose connector.
Now, time for the tricky part: torch modification.
Fuck. I broke a damn wire. Fuuuuuuuuck.
I can fix this, I think, but I’m going to need some wire.
*ponders cannibalizing old electronics while drinking iced tea*
*thinks better of it and goes to Ace*
JEF is speaking at the opening of the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
What are the odds he lectures us whiteys about how much of a disappointment we’ve been to him over the last 8 years, specifically and his entire life, generally?
Ace won’t have any wire. He’s just a fucking blogger.
From an AP article about Charlotte …………………….
“But a very different Charlotte came into the spotlight in the past few days.
Move outside the city’s core and there are neighborhoods like the one where a white police officer shot and killed a black man, Keith Scott”
White officer? The truth doesn’t matter anymore.
I’m sure they’ll print a correction in a week or so on page A10.
……and the mall shooter, he doesn’t look hispanic to me.
Which one?
Cascade Mall is where mom would take us shopping for back to school clothes.
I like how they have no idea about who he is, motive, relationship to any of the victims, but they’re “Damn Sure It Is Not Terrorism!!!”
No evidence, but I just have a suspicion he has some connection to one of the victims.
Scott, do you have a link to the AP article?
Xbad,
I think so, too.
He came in empty-handed, to see if someone was there?
He left and then came back with the rifle, into Macys, not the open mall, and opened fire.
Then he put down the rifle and walked out.
He was not wearing gloves so his prints should be on the rifle…
Alex http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/24/black-community-sees-charlotte-as-glimmering-fake-oz.html
6″ of doorbell wire and it works just fine. Time to do the water test.
AP has changed the story, but no note about the correction.
Sneaky.
A lot of white people are going to reconsider whether it makes sense to remain in the Glimmering Fake Oz, whether for work or as a residence.
I wouldn’t take a job in Charlotte after this crap.
Well, most of the rioters are professionals from other states.
HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAAAHAHAHA!!!!!!
*sprays water from backpack*
HAhahahahaaahhhhHAHAHAAAHHHAHHHAHAAAAHHAAA
Well, that’s enough of that, time to mow the lawn.
Trump threatened to seat Gennifer Flowers in the front row of the debate, “next to dopey Mark Cuban.”
She has agreed to go!
If he pulls this off I’ll vote for him twice.
This is on right now
http://tinyurl.com/jk9fkl3
It’s not as good as it looks.
If he pulls this off I’ll vote for him twice.
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Right there with you.
Can he get Kathleen Willey, too?
He could actually fill the whole front row with Bill’s rapey conquests.
And Cuban can kiss my ass.
And Paula Jones?
Trump should have the woman who as a girl was raped and Hillary lawyered for the rapist….and laughed about getting him out of it.
Then of course Trump needs to point that out. Champion of women? I think not.
https://is.gd/ZOIzhf
FL vs TN is turning out to be an amazing game.
Game of the week for sure.
Greetings, people who already had your own helmets before being put on the “Special Teams.”
This medal is awarded to – Pupster!
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/24/breaking-ankle-holster-clearly-visible-police-release-keith-scott-shooting-video/
GREETINGS, FILTHY EARTH VERMIN.
TAGNASH IS VERY SORRY HE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO EXTERMINATE YOU YET, BUT TAGNASH HAS BEEN ENJOYING YOUR LOCAL POLITICS AS LATE.
IT REMINDS TAGNASH OF ELECTIONS ON PLANET TAGNASH.
SPECIFICALLY OF ONE ELECTION THAT TAGNASHIANS HAVE DUBBED ‘THE WRETCHED CONTEST OF THE UNBEARABLE STINKERS.’ TAGNASH HAS CLEANED UP THE LANGUAGE QUITE A BIT.
UNCENSORED TAGNASHIAN CURSES WOULD EASILY STRIP THE FLESH AND VISCERA FROM YOUR…
…PLEASE EXCUSE TAGNASH. TAGNASH HAS TO SUDDENLY MEET WITH HIS WAR SCIENTISTS, AND WILL BE BACK SHORTLY.
WHEN YOU WILL MEET YOUR CERTAIN DOOM!!
‘TA
Ha, a Tagnash sighting. It has been a while.
I missed Tagnash? 💩 I think a SMOD/Tagnash ticket would be awesome.
Mag 7 didn’t suck.
Gator/Vols was a fun game.
Something’s horribly wrong w Notre Dame.
I’ve missed him.
My mushroom-hunter buddy dropped off a few pounds of chicken of the woods earlier. Fried some up with butter for dessert just now.
I think a SMOD/Tagnash ticket would be awesome.
I don’t think they’d be able to put aside their differences on certain policy issues. Namely, SMOD just wants to end all life on the planet, while Tagnash seems bent on making us actually suffer.
Namely, SMOD just wants to end all life on the planet, while Tagnash seems bent on making us actually suffer.
Would our suffering really be worse than what a Hillary! administration would inflict on us?
It’s true. SMOD wants to free us, Tagnash wants to subdue us. The only reason to vote Tagnash is if he promises to make me the Secretary of Combustion.
Thanks for spoiling my dream ticket. 💩
Dan broke out the Cards gear. Not even hiding it. SMDH
It IS week 3.
Leon, you need to look at your wife and say,
“No, last seasons losers.“
https://is.gd/Ca4BhC
Comment by pendejogrande on September 24, 2016 8:09 pm
Something’s horribly wrong w Notre Dame.
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and it’s wonderful…. Losing to Duke at home, priceless.
They probably tried to lowball the officials this year.
I should watch that movie again.
First thing I learned today: you walk with a flamethrower. You can’t run or even really jog. Tank is too heavy, it sloshes when you move, and scuba tank backpacks just aren’t built for it.
You should try roller skates.
Wait, Duke beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame?????
Their tears are delicious.
God wants them to rethink that whole, “Give the most pro abortion senator in history honors and accolades!”
Odd, I use to be a ND fan. That was shattered pretty quickly in 2008.
leon – scott is most assuredly correct: a lilting stride or gait will most certainly help in your weed smoking endeavors….
Imagine the filth Brian Kelly spouted in the locker room after that loss.
*snickers*
Mare, Catholic Charities invited Pickles to speak at their annual convention.
Flame throwing jet powered roller skates.
First thing I learned today: you walk with a flamethrower. You can’t run or even really jog. Tank is too heavy, it sloshes when you move, and scuba tank backpacks just aren’t built for it.
Get somebody to shoot at you while you use it. I bet you’ll figure out how to run with it.
I think I’ll pass on skates, too. You’re welcome to try that when you build yours. Besides, I’ll be standing in the grass the whole time.
Sean, if I hear a gunshot, I drop it and then run. Running with a tank of gas on your back while being shot at is like having sex with Lena Dunham: frightening, dangerous, and only a madman would do it.
There’s a reason I only donate to my parish and to Catholic Answers.
Auburn-LSU
HOLY SHIT!!!
“Besides, I’ll be standing in the grass the whole time.”
You hope.
WTF, Oso???????????
Eff, catholic charities.
The world is completely upside down.
Poat of newness
SMOD just wants to end all life on the planet, while Tagnash seems bent on making us actually suffer.
Make Tagnash the presidential candidate, with SMOD as VP. That way they may both get a shot a implementing their policies.
>>SMOD just wants to end all life on the planet, while Tagnash seems bent on making us actually suffer.
Geoff, do you realize what profound thinkers we have here at H2?
i mean, sure, the intellectual firepower that resides at IB is unmatched, but H2 is not entirely made of paste eaters. Take out XBrad and me, and the rest of H2 is a pretty smart bunch.
Imma just leave this here.