I, Rosetta, Am A Proud Racist

Let’s begin with this article written by a reporter named Melissa DiPane. It is an excellent illustration of the tolerance we have all come to expect from the Democratic left in this country:

She’s only 12 years old but Ashleigh Jones is feeling the heat of this election year.

That’s because the seventh grader at New Smyrna Beach Middle School was called a racist by classmates for wearing a pro-Sarah Palin t-shirt.

I submit to you, Ms. DiPane, that it is not “the heat of this election year” that Ashleigh Jones is feeling. She is feeling the official intimidation tactic of the Democratic party and its sycophantic fellators in the MSM as they seek to silence those with the audacity to support a candidate other than The One. That’s not politics, Ms. DiPane, you fucking dunce, that’s a fascistic attempt to silence speech.

Jones is volunteering at the Republican Headquarters in New Smyrna Beach. The Palin t-shirt was a gift from her fellow volunteers.

But when she wore it to school she learned just how tough politics can be.

No, Ms. DiPlane, you ignorant slut, calling Ashleigh Jones a racist because she sports a McCain-Palin t-shirt is not “tough politics”. It’s raw intimidation and an attempt to squelch a little girl’s first amendment right to espouse a different political view.

“Some of the students were calling me racist because I was Caucasian,” she said. “I wanted the Caucasian man to win. And I told them that’s not true. It’s my freedom of speech, it’s my opinion.”

Officials with Volusia County Schools said there were no referrals or complaints to the office about this incident.

Of course not. Who would complain about a 12 year old girl being called a racist because she supports McCain? This entire story is dog bites man.

Ashleigh said that more of her friends are expressing their views by wearing political t-shirts and she plans to wear hers again.

Well you know what, Ashleigh? To show my support for your particular brand of racism, let me say that I am right there with you. For the first time in my life, I can truthfully acknowledge that I too am a racist. Not a racist in the antiquated sense that I discriminate or hold prejudicial views of others because of their race as that, I do not do.  I am a racist in the new, post-racial sense that I too support McCain for President.

Thanks to the MSM and the entirety of the Democrat party including the Obama campaign, racism and its racist practitioners have now and forever been redefined. Just as the word “nigger”, once meant as a horrific perjorative, has been redefined by black culture to mean something entirely different and unrelated to that original perjorative; racism and racist has similarly been redefined.

And I think it’s telling that so few actual racists, in the old sense of the word, exist in this country that in the span of only one election cycle, that word has been completely redefined.

So, Ashleigh, I too am a proud racist that supports the Republican candidate for President.

* As a racist, I believe in smaller government and lower taxes.

* Because of my racist tendencies, I tend to dislike people that say “Goddamn America”, bomb the Pentagon or preach hatred of others and our country.

* The racism that pulses through my veins leads me to believe that all innocent life is precious including that of the unborn.

* As an unrepentent racist, I believe it is my right to keep and bear arms and make swiss cheese of anyone that threatens me or my family.

* As a racist, I embrace legal immigrants that make the arduous trek to come to this great country and make a better life for themselves and their families and do so with respect to our laws.

* Being the racist that I am, I believe that being a well-spoken community organizer, a state Senator and a less-than-one-term U.S. Senator does not qualify you to be President of the United States.

* Apparently it is my flaming racism that leads me to believe in fiscal responsiblity and balanced budgets.

* Lastly, as a racist, I believe that freeing 58 million Iraqis and Afghans and giving them the opportunity at self rule was a wonderful thing.

So world, I would appreciate it from now on if you would address me as Rosetta the Racist because I proudly support all that has come to mean. If any of my proud racist brothers and sisters are so inclined to link this post in a show of solidarity, I would be very appreciative from the bottom of my racist heart.

If you would like to declare your racist support of racism here, you may proudly do so in the comments you racism loving racist.

October 18, 2008
Categories: Christmas cheer, Politics, man-lesbians . . Author: Rosetta Edit this entry

977 Comments

1.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 12:36 pm

FIRST!!!!

Hi. My name is Rosetta and I am a racist.
2.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 12:42 pm

I’m this close >< to taking my kids out of school at the end of this year and homeschooling them. My kids are worth the sacrifice.

additionally, I think my fancy shredded cheddar cheese is moldy. it tastes a little off
3.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 12:43 pm

♪ Glory, Glory Hallejuah. ♪

My name is wiserbud and I am a racist.
4.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 12:45 pm

additionally, I think my fancy shredded cheddar cheese is moldy. it tastes a little off

Oh. Hmm. Well, let’s talk about this instead, shall we?

Stupid Rosetta trying to initiate a conversation that isn’t about PJM.
5.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 12:46 pm

that’s right wiserbud, now you understand

I made sure my comment in MCPO’s post was about me as well
6.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 12:47 pm

I made sure my comment in MCPO’s post was about me as well

But of course. I wouldn’t have expected anything else.
7.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 12:47 pm

Sooooooooo, wiserbud, how’s eye oh wuh?
8.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 12:48 pm

er, I mean, fine

I AM pajama momma the racist
9.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 12:52 pm

Racist? Well, if this is an example of the “new racism”, I guess you can sign me up too.

Now, back to my post with the fine example of sweater meat!!
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 12:56 pm

additionally, I think my fancy shredded cheddar cheese is moldy. it tastes a little off

This has wiserbud’s two favorite topics: food and pajama momma.

CHEESE!!!!
11.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 12:57 pm

Sooooooooo, wiserbud, how’s eye oh wuh?

I got hammered last night without about 25 women. So, not bad so far.
12.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 12:58 pm

This has wiserbud’s two favorite topics: food and pajama momma.

wait, that’s two topics?
13.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 12:58 pm

that should be with about 25 women, not without.
14.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 1:01 pm

You woke up without your wallet, right?
15.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 1:04 pm

You woke up without your wallet kidney, right?

FTFY
16.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:08 pm

FYI, I’m going to keep this post at the top for a little while.

I want to start an “I’m a Racist” trend.
17.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 1:11 pm

WELL, I WANT TO START A “BUSTY CHICKS IN TIGHT SWEATERS!!!!” TREND, DOUCHENOZZLE!
18.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:15 pm

THAT ALREADY IS A TREND YOU BALL-GARGLING FAG SPANKER!!!
19.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 1:17 pm

Oh, sorry did I miss that??
20.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 1:18 pm

I think it’s great that Bush’s babe Linda Chavez thinks I’m a racist too.
21.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 1:18 pm

BALL-GARGLING FAG SPANKER!!!

be sure not to choke MCPO. That situation would be difficult to explain to the missus.
22.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:21 pm

think it’s great that Bush’s babe Linda Chavez thinks I’m a racist too.

I missed that. Whatchoo talkin’ ’bout, Willis?
23.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 1:21 pm

I love chocolate milk, but hate hot chocolate. I’m conflicted in my racism.
24.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:24 pm

I believe that makes you a HEATIST!!!
25.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 1:27 pm

Back during the debate over the Comprehensive Piece of Shit, Bush rolled out Chavez to accuse those who opposed it a bunch of racists. She was about as eloquent as Letterman.

Stuck with me, because that’s pretty much where I said I’m done with him.

Chavez was his first choice as Sec of Labor but withdrew over a dust up regarding a live-in Guatemalan (FBI said she was sheltering her, it’s believable). But Chavez stuck to the “racist-hater” rhetoric for anyone who opposed amnesty.
26.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 1:29 pm

Chavez is another “compassionate conservative.”

Compassionate Conservative = Moderate Democrat
27.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 1:30 pm

Does that make Bush a Beanist?
28.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:30 pm

Ah. I remember that. I thought that maybe she did something more recently.

That was disgraceful to call those that didn’t favor that bill “racists”. I believe McCain engaged in a little of that as well.

Fuck ‘em.
29.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:34 pm

Bush Baked Beasn?
30.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 1:35 pm

I just can’t wait until whites are a minority so I can refer to all others as racist.

Ah, shoot, forgot about all of that having the power nonsense.
31.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 1:43 pm

Fierce, did you send rosetta the picture of your wife yet?
32.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 1:47 pm

Currently we’re watching BIg 10 football, drinking warm vodka, and I have the camera out. I’ll update you later today.
33.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:49 pm

Hey no kidding. Hurry up with that already or else people will think you were full of crap.

She can be next week’s model.

88rosetta88 *@* gmail *dot* com.
34.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 1:49 pm

Nah, nothing recent. Just the first time I can remember somebody on “my side” using the race card on me.
35.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 1:50 pm

DiT – You cannot possibly believe that compassionate conservatives are on your side!?!?
36.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 1:54 pm

Fierce, think roofies.
37.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 1:54 pm

Rosetta: she’s getting dressed, or undressed, depends on your perspective. Should be coming your way shortly.
38.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 1:58 pm

Excellent.

I promise that the photos will be handled tastefully.
39.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 2:00 pm

I promise that the photos will be handled tastefully.

Hahahahaha!!!

Racist.
40.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 2:02 pm

good gawd, rosetta’s making sticky tube socks as we speak
41.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:08 pm

good gawd, rosetta’s making sticky tube socks as we speak

No no stupid. That’s what I use your eye for.
42.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:09 pm

bmac, I fail to see how calling yourself “bmac” helps Michelle Obama’s kids.
43.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 2:10 pm

That’s what I use your eye for.

Rosetta masturbates to PJM’s avatar? EEEEEEEWWWWWW!
44.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:12 pm

Rosetta masturbates to on PJM’s avatar?

There you go.
45.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 2:13 pm

bmac, I fail to see how calling yourself “bmac” helps Michelle Obama’s kids.

My Avatar is black and white.

Black And White
46.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 2:13 pm

du– oops.

heh.

MCPO, I was here when Bush was gov. I knew compassionate conservatism was bullshit. Something he made up to sound all friendly and stuff. He played hardball.

For whatever reason, he and other “not really conservatives” in the republican party were enamored with that stupid immigration bill.

To be fair, Reagan passed one that sucked too.

Anyway, I guess the point I was trying to make was at that point I just got tired of defending his bullshit, that’s all.
47.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:16 pm

My Avatar is black and white. Black And White

Hahahahahahahaha! Well done, honkey.
48.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 2:18 pm

DiT – I hear ya. I too stopped defending Bush after the immigration bill. If not for Sarah Palin, I would be voting for Bob Barr this year.
49.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 2:19 pm

Rosetta called me stupid! Rosetta called me stupid! He has a cruh-ush on me. He-e has a crush on me!
50.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 2:23 pm

Sorry guys, but Bob Barr is a buffoon. Always has been.
51.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:28 pm

I would like Bob Barr more if his name was Rob Rarr.

Rob Rarr reminds me of THIS which is a very good cocktail. Actually that may be the official Rosetta the Racist Cocktail™ this evening.
52.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 2:35 pm

The best Rob Roy ever made can be found at the Bottom Line at 17th & Eye in Washington, D.C. Definitely worth the trip.
53.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 2:36 pm

This evening?! You haven’t had a drink yet? SLACKER!
54.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:39 pm

Where are you Fierce? D.C.? Or do you just know about that place from visiting?

I’m due for another trip there. D.C. kicks ass.

I have a fund raiser to go to tonight, MCPO. I doubt Mrs Rosetta wants me to be hammered when we go. Although I am pretty friggin’ fun when hammered.
55.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 2:46 pm

MCPO, I got a blog award, can you translate this one for me pretty please?


56.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:48 pm

MCPO, are you having cocktails already? Bloody??
57.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 2:52 pm

Palin’s gonna be in Vegas Tuesday, I’m thinking about going.
58.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:57 pm

Go bmac! Take some photos and file an official report!! That would be great.

If you get close enough, tell her I have the hots for her. She’ll prolly be pretty fired up about that.
59.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 2:58 pm

MCPO must have passed out drunk.

Stupid drunk!!
60.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 2:59 pm

PJM – This blog is about investing and crediting closeness (family?).

Rosetta – I’m sipping a glass of Irish.
61.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:01 pm

Bushmills?
62.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 3:01 pm

Rosetta, I used to work for a law firm on that block. It’s a little place, but has tons of atmosphere, healthy drinks (we used to wonder at the surface tension at the tops of our glasses of Wild Turkey on the rocks), and darn good food for a place of that type. Its been several years, I haven’t gotten back. But it would be a shame if it were still not there. Check it out if you go.
63.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:01 pm

Excellent.
64.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:02 pm

HOLA PATRCIA ANNABELLA!!!!
65.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:03 pm

Ha! Fuck you MCPO.

I said HI to PattyAnn before you!!!!
66.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:03 pm

Take some photos and file an official report!! That would be great.

That could be fun, I think I will.

Biden was here yesterday, and they interviewed some morons on the local news-

“Why do you support Obama?”

“Ummm…..We need change!”

Every fucking one of em.
67.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:04 pm

AHOL ROSETTA!!!!
68.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:05 pm

AHOL?

Are you trying to start trouble??
69.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:05 pm

Hahaha. That’s part of the new Racist language arts.
70.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:07 pm

“Why do you support Obama?”

Dude, you can’t expect people to answer that question.
71.
Comment by Fierce Scorpion on October 18, 2008 3:08 pm

I’m an idiot. What’s AHOL?
72.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:09 pm

That’s part of the new Racist language arts. We’re going to drop all unnecessary letters from words.
73.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:09 pm

Hahaha. That’s part of the new Racist language arts.

No it’s not, punk. I’m putting you on double secret probation for calling me AHOL.
74.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:11 pm

Well, you called me a HO LA
75.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:11 pm

He’s touching me! He’s touching me!
76.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 3:12 pm

Rosetta. Seriously? This post was excellent. I’m sorry that people that are afraid to come here will never read it. *cries
77.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 3:13 pm

Rosetta – I’m drinking 12 y/o Jameson. And I wouldn’t fuck you even if you put on that pretty blue cocktail dress you wore out with the boys last week!
78.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 3:14 pm

P/A – He’s not touching you, he’s checking out the fabric of your blouse.
79.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:14 pm

This post was excellent. I’m sorry that people that are afraid to come here will never read it. *cries

How many of us have the Ace login?

We could fit it in between Kat-Mo posts.
80.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:15 pm

He’s touching me! He’s touching me!

When I touch you it’s going to be one of these…


81.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:20 pm

Rosetta. Seriously? This post was excellent. I’m sorry that people that are afraid to come here will never read it. *cries

Hahahaha.

Thanks PattyAnn. I’m hoping someone from ACE or DPUD will link it. It should even be a HOTAIR headline for goodness sakes.

I think it could catch on because it’s smartass and it’s a big FUCK YOU to the assholes that have tried to use that to shut people up.

I’m glad you liked it.

*removes Patty Ann from double secret probation*
82.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:24 pm

Ummm…..I happen to be a co-blogger at DPUD Rosetta.

Want a link?
83.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:25 pm

What, do I have to beg for it like some kind of crack whore?
84.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:26 pm

Hahahahaha.
85.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:29 pm

What, do I have to beg for it like some kind of crack whore?

Of course!

*waiting for crackwhore begging*
86.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 3:30 pm

Beg bitch, beg!
87.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:33 pm

This will have to suffice…


88.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 3:38 pm

Motown, heh. Philly soul is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdqAkaphJxE
89.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:38 pm

That’s it?

Dude, why don’t you have an Ace login? Send him an email.
90.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:44 pm

I have no idea. I don’t even really know what an Ace login is. Is that where I can post it on AoS myself?

Actually he probably wouldn’t approve of the post since I actually use the N-word. I know he’s super-sensitive about that.
91.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:46 pm

It’s up at DPUD.

You’re welcome Michele Obama’s kids.

Just send Ace an email to get the login to post on open blog.
92.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:47 pm

Maybe Drudge will link it…..oh wait.
93.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:48 pm

Thanks bmac!

*puts pants on in anticipation of mad DPUD traffic*
94.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 3:53 pm

*puts pants on in anticipation of mad DPUD traffic*

Ummm…..you may wanna put your shirt on too……and pick up this pig-sty…..MCPO, hide that drink…..PJM, get those kids outta here…..and Pinto….umm….nevermind.
95.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:53 pm

Every once in a while, a Hostage creates a post that is actually worth reading, and even more rarely, that post is authored by Rosetta.

Hahahahaha. Cock.
96.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 3:57 pm

Every once in a while, a Hostage creates a post that is actually worth reading, and even more rarely, that post is authored by Rosetta.

Truer word were never typed! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! PWNED!
97.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 3:58 pm

Hahahahaha. Up yours, MCPO.
98.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 4:01 pm

I’m just jealous my better written sweater meat post wasn’t chosen for such accolades.
99.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 4:04 pm

I’ll link to your post next Friday to give you additional comments.
100.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 4:11 pm

Rosetta, seriously, get an open blog login at Ace’s, I think you would kick ass over there.

Tell him you know DiT.
101.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 4:12 pm

Tell him you know DiT

“Your request is tentatively rejected. Please reapply in 90 days for final rejection.”
102.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 4:15 pm

“Your request is tentatively rejected. Please reapply in 90 days for final rejection.”

Yeah, your right, tell him you’re a “Furry.”
103.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 4:16 pm

Gheycist!!!
104.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 4:17 pm

Mesa – The Buckeyes are giving State an ass-whupping!
105.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 4:19 pm

I don’t need Ace telling me to tone anything down. Plus I’m not serious enough to post at AoS.

My first seven posts would all be Tourette’s Guy.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A PORCUPINE’S BALLS – THEY’RE SMALL AND THEY DON’T GIVE A SHIIT!!!!!
106.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 4:20 pm

Some idiot Obama supporter was just on Fox and she said that calling Joe the Plumber “Joe the Plumber” is insulting, because his real name is Samuel Wurzelbacher.

Um, hey stupid? His middle name is Joe and he actually doesn’t mind being called Joe the Plumber, since hi s name is Joe and he is, in fact, a plumber.

I fucking love how people get to make these stupid fucking remarks and no one calls them on them. Who the fuck is she to deem Joe being called Joe offensive or disrespectful?

Oh, she also fucked up let it slip that the $250k number for tax increases is gross, not net revenue. Whooops! Don;t think they wanted that to get out before election day.
107.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 4:22 pm

Not a Sparty fan, but I hate the Bucknuts.
108.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 4:29 pm

Ace doesn’t want the truth because deep down in places he doesn’t talk about at parties, he wants you on that blog, he need you on that blogl. Ace use words like cocksucker, hobo killing and Val-U-Rite. We use them as the backbone of a life trying to ridicule something. Ace uses them as a punchline.
109.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 4:36 pm

I don’t need Ace telling me to tone anything down. Plus I’m not serious enough to post at AoS.

Are you afraid?

I just think it would be fun, especially shit like that time you trashed Gabe.
110.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 4:40 pm

It really is a good post Rosetta. Linked it in the headlines.

FWIW, ace doesn’t have any particular sensitivity to the n word, he’s used it in the same context you have. He does have a problem with overtly racist comments in the threads, understandably so.
111.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 4:44 pm

YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!
112.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 4:44 pm

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!*

*this is what my retarded hands meant to type the first time
113.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 4:47 pm

On a related topic: http://www.sondrak.com/index.php/weblog/dont_hate_me_bro/

HAHAHAHA! “BROZO!”
114.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 4:50 pm

Are you afraid?

Hahahahahaha. No. AndI don’t think I ever trashed Gabe. I did trash Tank a couple of times. I took him to the Woodshed of Pain™.

Thanks, DiT. And you’re right about Ace and his racial sensitivities. That’s a more accurate description than what I said. It’s always the stupid fucking commenters.

COMMENTERS SUCK!!!!!
115.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 4:56 pm

Rosetta – When are you leaving for your “function”?
116.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 4:57 pm

YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I think BrewFan inadvertently came up with a joke thread idea.

Rejected Movie Catch Phrases.

Go ahead punk…make my iced tea.
117.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 4:58 pm

Woo hoo!!!

Michigan is beating Penn State.
118.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 4:59 pm

Do you feel plucky, punk?
119.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 4:59 pm

I think the “function” starts at 6:30 CST so I have a couple of hours.

Why? You want to make me a cocktail?
120.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:00 pm

May the force give you AIDS.
121.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:01 pm

Dude, where’s my Prius?
122.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 5:01 pm

Farqward T. Buttaface
123.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:02 pm

I coulda been a realtor.
124.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:03 pm

I coulda been a realtor.

Hahahahaha!!
125.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:04 pm

I’ll be back in a little bit.
126.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:06 pm

I don’t think we’re in Compton anymore, Toto.
127.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:07 pm

SHOW ME THE EFFORT!!!!
128.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:08 pm

Shirlena?
129.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:08 pm

Say hello to my little dog!!!
130.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Et tu, Bluto?
131.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:11 pm

I’m kind of angry and wish someone would do something about it.
132.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:12 pm

First rule of Crochet Club?
133.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:12 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I went and checked the headlines at AoS since DaveinTexas said he put this post up.

When you click on the link, it takes you directly to the comment thread, not the post. And this is the comment that it goes to:

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A PORCUPINE’S BALLS – THEY’RE SMALL AND THEY DON’T GIVE A SHIIT!!!!!

Can you fix that, mesa? Or do you not have headline access?
134.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:13 pm

Here’s looking at you, whore.
135.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:14 pm

Houston, we have an erection.
136.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:15 pm

I can’t change anything that wasn’t posted with an Open Blog ID.

Hey wait, I can change anything that was posted with an Open Blog ID.
137.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:15 pm

I’M KING OF THE BOAT!!!
138.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 5:16 pm

Top Gear anti-queer cars!
139.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:16 pm

WHORE!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!
140.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:16 pm

Play it again, Elvis.
141.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:17 pm

Yippee-ki- yay, mother superior!
142.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:17 pm

Frankly, Scarlett, tough titties says the kitties.
143.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:18 pm

I’m gonna make him an offer that’s pretty good.
144.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:19 pm

Bond. Jimmy Bond.
145.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:20 pm

Hahahaha.

Bond. Jeff Bond.
146.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:20 pm

I see people.
147.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:21 pm

Yo, Bob!
148.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:21 pm

Life is like a box of COCK.
149.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:22 pm

Luke, I’m your cousin.
150.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:22 pm

Luke, I served with your father; I knew your father; your father was a friend of mine. Luke, you’re not your father.
151.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:23 pm

If you build it someone might show up.

Maybe.
152.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:23 pm

Hahaha! We were doing the same one.
153.
Comment by daveintexas on October 18, 2008 5:23 pm

God I am a moron.

Fixed.
154.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:24 pm

I love the smell of acorns in the morning!
155.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:24 pm

I love the smell of fish sticks in the morning. Smells like — ketchup.
156.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:25 pm

Charles don’t surf!
157.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:25 pm

Rosetta.
158.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:26 pm

You had me at “how much”.
159.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:27 pm

I love the smell of fish sticks in the morning. Smells like — ketchup.

Good one! I would see that movie.
160.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:27 pm

You talking to someone?
161.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:28 pm

THEY’VE RETURRRRRNNNNNED!
162.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:29 pm

Hello, Clarence.
163.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:30 pm

I wish I knew you had AIDS.
164.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:30 pm

I am serious and stop calling me Hussein.
165.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:31 pm

Get in my ASS!!!
166.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:32 pm

Go ahead. Make my lunch.
167.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:33 pm

There’s no place like Nome.
168.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:34 pm

Never give up! Never wax your testicles!
169.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:34 pm

HEEEEERES JEFF!!!
170.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:35 pm

A man’s got to know his imitations.
171.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:36 pm

You’re gonna need a bigger bicycle.
172.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:36 pm

Get in my ASS!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
173.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 5:36 pm

ET, write letter!
174.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:37 pm

It’s a fucking tumor!!
175.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:38 pm

Every time I think I’m out, they leave me another voicemail!
176.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:39 pm

I’ve had it with these mother fucking chickens on this mother fucking train.
177.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:39 pm

We’re gonna make him an offer that he should mull over for a while before he makes his decision.
178.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:39 pm

I’ve had it with these mother fucking chickens on this mother fucking train.

Laughed right out loud!
179.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:40 pm

This IS some pretty good sushi.
180.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:40 pm

And I don’t like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I’ll file a formal complaint with the EEOC civil rights division.
181.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:41 pm

FELLA!
182.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:41 pm

I’ve had it with these mother fucking chickens on this mother fucking train.

HAHAHAHA. Good one, Corky.
183.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:42 pm

At my signal, unleash smell.
184.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:42 pm

Poodles. Why did it have to be poodles?
185.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:42 pm

I am Platypus!
186.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:43 pm

fat , drunk and stupid is actually a pretty enjoyable way to go through life, son.
187.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:44 pm

PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
188.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:45 pm

The scary stuff…..the scary stuff
189.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:45 pm

Release the kittens of Heck!!!!
190.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:46 pm

Get your stinking testes off me, you damned dirty hermaphrodite.
191.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:47 pm

See ya next week, Shane.
192.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:47 pm

Here’s gawking at you, kid.
193.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:47 pm

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that Madonna could sing.
194.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:48 pm

Forget it Jose, It’s Mexican town.
195.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:48 pm

Release the kittens of Heck!!!!

Hahahaha.
196.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:50 pm

This one time, in fat camp…
197.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:51 pm

This one time, in concentration camp…
198.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:51 pm

Am I funny?
199.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:51 pm

Say hello to my little penis.
200.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:52 pm

You can’t handle the tooth!
201.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:54 pm

The call….it’s coming from a house in Mississippi.
202.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:54 pm

ABC. Always buy cheese.
203.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:55 pm

I’M WHAT’S-HIS-NAME!
204.
Comment by daveintexas on October 18, 2008 5:55 pm

Here’s looking at your kid.
205.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 5:56 pm

Love means never having to say you’ve got diarrhea.
206.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:56 pm

I’m Batman’s hairdresser.
207.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 5:56 pm

Here’s looking at your kid.

Hahahaha! I’m surprised wiserbud didn’t beat you to that one.
208.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 5:57 pm

We’re all bloated down here.
209.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:58 pm

What we have here is a failure to fornicate.
210.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 5:59 pm

Yippee-kay-ay, Mother Theresa.
211.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:00 pm

As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you sleep with my sister.
212.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:00 pm

I’m your dingleberry.
213.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:01 pm

It was bullets that killed the beast.
214.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:01 pm

I’ll have what she’s snorting.
215.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:02 pm

Your move, sweetie.
216.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:03 pm

Assbud…
217.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:03 pm

A long time ago, in the 1966 Ford Galaxie next door…
218.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:04 pm

They call me Little Miss Muffett.
219.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 6:04 pm

“Poodles. Why did it have to be poodles?”
hahahahahaha

Round up the usual Hostages.
220.
Comment by Tushar on October 18, 2008 6:05 pm

Rosetta,

There are a few reasons why I am a Conservative, and maybe even a Republican. This post reassures me that I chose wisely. I too am a racist, just like Ashleigh and Rosetta.
221.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:06 pm

I could been a contender. I could been somebody, instead of a transvestite whore, which is what I am, let’s face it, Charlie.
222.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 6:06 pm

PJM – This blog is about investing and crediting closeness (family?).

the fuck?
223.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:07 pm

Isn’t that just like a Scandi, brings a casserole to a barbecue.
224.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:07 pm

All right, Mr. Deville, I’m ready for my cum shot.
225.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 6:08 pm

And, you know, the thing about a shark… he’s got pretty eyes. Blue eyes. Like Bette Davis eyes.
226.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:08 pm

Badgers? We don’t need no stinking badgers!
227.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 6:09 pm

“I’m your dingleberry”
snort
228.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:09 pm

If you suck it, he will come.
229.
Comment by Pupster on October 18, 2008 6:09 pm

Please be quiet, Donny.
230.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:10 pm

You had me at “get in the car, bitch!”
231.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:10 pm

Suds me up, Scotty.
232.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 6:10 pm

Nobody puts Wiser in the corner.
233.
Comment by Tushar on October 18, 2008 6:10 pm

Rosetta,
I have a serious suggestion. Hostages, while an excellent blog for a handful of retarded friends, is not a big enough forum to display your ninja writing skills. Ask Ace for OpenBlog password. Write such posts there once in a while. Your thoughts need to be read by a wider readership.
234.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:11 pm

Of all the gin joints in all the world, she passes out in mine.
235.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:12 pm

Louis, this looks like the beginning of a beautiful threesome.
236.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:12 pm

Drink! Rosetta! Drink!
237.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:13 pm

As far back as I can remember, I’ve always wanted to be a garbage man.
238.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:13 pm

Tell ‘em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the stripper.
239.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:14 pm

THIS….IS…..WALMART!!!
240.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:15 pm

I’ll get you, my pretty, and your little bitch too!
241.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 6:15 pm

I’m as mad as all get out, and I’m only going to take it 18 more times!
242.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:15 pm

I feel the need…. the need for lotion!
243.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:16 pm

ATTIC! ATTIC! ATTIC!
244.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:17 pm

We’ll always have Des Moines.
245.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:17 pm

Take your hands off of me, you damn dirty faggots!
246.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:17 pm

There’s no crying in foosball!
247.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:18 pm

Squeal like a bunny.
248.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:19 pm

I’ll think about that tomorrow. After all, tomorrow is October 19th.
249.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:19 pm

Leave the gun. Take the Spicoli.
250.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:19 pm

Bring out your bread. Bring out your bread.
251.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:20 pm

How much for the little boy?
252.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:21 pm

Do you mind if we dance with you?
253.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:21 pm

I MADE IT, MA! TOP OF THE STAIRS!!
254.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:22 pm

You know how to whistle, don’t ya? I mean, you’re not a complete fucking idiot, are ya?
255.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:23 pm

Momma always said that life is like a box of herpes.
256.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:24 pm

A boy’s best friend is his mother’s hot divorced friend.
257.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:25 pm

Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Japanese?

Forget it, he’s accurate.
258.
Comment by Pupster on October 18, 2008 6:25 pm

As God is my witness, I’d really like a cheeseburger.
259.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:26 pm

I’ve always depended on the ignorance of strangers.
260.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:26 pm

Do you expect me to talk, Goldfinger?

Nooo, Mr. Bond, I expect you to suck my cock!
261.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:26 pm

GOOOOOD MORNING SOUTH OSSETIA!!!
262.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:27 pm

Be..be…be the ballsac.
263.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:28 pm

Say antidisestablishmentarianism one more time!
264.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:28 pm

OOOOOOOOOOOklahomo, where the fags come mincing down the plains…….
265.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:29 pm

Wax on, jack off.
266.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:30 pm

Luke, feel the napkin.
267.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:31 pm

I’m your Uncle
268.
Comment by Festus on October 18, 2008 6:31 pm

“I call that bold talk for a oned eyed little dick.”

“Fill your hand, you jerkoff!”
269.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:32 pm

Today (today…today…today…)

I consider myself (self…self..self)

the unluckiest mother fucker (fucker…fucker…fucker…)

on the face of the Earth…..
270.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:32 pm

A daqueri, blended not stirred.
271.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:34 pm

He’s got hemoroids Jim.
272.
Comment by Tushar on October 18, 2008 6:34 pm

Honestly dear, I do give a teensy little bit of damn
273.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:35 pm

Rocky, you’re gonna eat lightning and then probably get a really bad fucking cramp, because it’s really not a good idea to eat lightning. Just thought you should know.
274.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:35 pm

Tushar, that I can consider myself a racist brother with you makes me also feel that I chose wisely.

Thank you for you support you horrible racist.
275.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:36 pm

That’ll do, turtle. That’ll………..BLAM!!!
276.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:36 pm

Show me the food stamps!!
277.
Comment by Festus on October 18, 2008 6:37 pm

You can call me Dad, you can call me Father, you can call me Jacob and you can call me Jake. You can call me a dirty old son-of-a-bitch, but if you EVER call me Obama again, I’ll finish this fight.
278.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:37 pm

Hey wiserbud, you planning on kicking back with a few Miller Chills and watching UFC tonight?

Homo.
279.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:38 pm

You talking to me? YOU TALKING TO ME?

Oh. you’re talking to him. Sorry. I thought you were talking to me. My bad.
280.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:39 pm

Hey wiserbud, you planning on kicking back with a few Miller Chills and watching UFC tonight?

You got a better way to spend a lonely night in Des Moines, I’d like to hear it.
281.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:39 pm

Hasta la vista, Shirlena.
282.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:39 pm

Okay, nobody move or I get it!
283.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:40 pm

I came here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I’m all out of…wait a second…oh, here we go. I got one piece left. Cool.
284.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:41 pm

Keep your pie close, and you’re cheese closer.
285.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:43 pm

I feel the need for tweed!!
286.
Comment by Tushar on October 18, 2008 6:43 pm

My Mama always said, ‘Life is like a box of condoms; you never know if you’re gonna get the torn one.
287.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:44 pm

I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my cherry! You broke my cherry!
288.
Comment by Tushar on October 18, 2008 6:45 pm

I will be Back!….. I forgot my Asthma spray.
289.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:45 pm

My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my hamster. Prepare to die.
290.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:47 pm

Everytime you hear a bell ring, it means somebody rang a bell.
291.
Comment by Bart on October 18, 2008 6:47 pm

You goofy bastards are just about the best thing I have in this crazy world.
292.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:47 pm

My name is wiserbud. I killed your gerbil. Prepare me another gerbil.
293.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:48 pm

It’s alive! IT’S ALIIIIIIIVE!!!!! No wait, it’s dead.
294.
Comment by Bart on October 18, 2008 6:48 pm

Are you not entertained, fagz?
295.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:49 pm

Bart, if you’re not a racist you’re going to have to leave.
296.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 6:50 pm

Anyone? Something-d-o-o economics. “Shit” economics.
297.
Comment by Bart on October 18, 2008 6:50 pm

being a homophone isn’t enough?
298.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:50 pm

KHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTT???
299.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:51 pm

Anyone? Something-d-o-o economics. “Shit” economics.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Nice one, sean.
300.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:52 pm

The first rule of fight club is you don’t ever hit me.
301.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:52 pm

Everytime you hear a bell ring, it means somebody rang a bell.

Hahahahaha. Good one.
302.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:52 pm

being a homophone isn’t enough?

Sounds like……. bagz?
303.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:54 pm

Sorry folks! Park’s closed! But I’ll open it if you SUCK MY DICK!! OR COCK!!!
304.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 6:55 pm

Someday, and that day may never come, I’ll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, keep your cell phone turned on.
305.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 18, 2008 6:57 pm

“He’s got hemoroids Jim.”

Heh. Heh heh. Heh heh heh. Now I can’t stop laughing.
306.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:58 pm

I’ll have a turducken sandwich and…a turducken sandwich. Put it on the Billy Mays’ account.
307.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:58 pm

I’m not bad, I’m just a WHORE!!!
308.
Comment by alexthechick on October 18, 2008 6:59 pm

My name is Alexthechick and I’m a racist.

Also a self-hating queer and not really a woman. Really, can someone tell my uterus that? Please?
309.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 6:59 pm

I will be Back!….. I forgot my Asthma spray.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
310.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:59 pm

I’ll be taking a dump.
311.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 6:59 pm

Cheese is good. Cheese is right. Cheese works.
312.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 7:00 pm

Think you used enough lubricant there, Butch?
313.
Comment by Barry in CO on October 18, 2008 7:00 pm

wtf?
314.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:03 pm

May the force touch you inappropriately in your sleep.
315.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:04 pm

Napoleon, you’re just jealous because I’m been chatting online with young boys all day.
316.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 7:05 pm

To Des Moines -AND BEYOND!!!
317.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:05 pm

He-Man! Master of the sock drawer!
318.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 7:05 pm

Call me Ishmael and then spank me hard.
319.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:05 pm

BEETLEJEWS! BEETLEJEWS! BEETLEJEWS!
320.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 7:06 pm

To infinity…And then home in time for dinner!
321.
Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 18, 2008 7:06 pm

Well Done, Rosetta, although I think you meant “sycophantic fellaitors”.

Nice to know I am a racist AND John Galt. I’m gonna need a pocket notepad to keepthis all straight before too long.

Nice Deb has a fun troll. Mental midget by the handle “TheTruth”. Go take a wack or three at him.
322.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 7:07 pm

Me so homely.
323.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 7:07 pm

heh. bmac beat me by that much.
324.
Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 18, 2008 7:09 pm

Call me Ishmael and then spank me hard.

No way. You might get pregnant.
325.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:09 pm

It made the Kessel run in 12 measures of distance that you’ve never heard of so you won’t know that this makes no sense.
326.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 7:09 pm

Get busy livin’, or get busy making some lunch.
327.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 7:09 pm

Des Moines… shit; I’m still only in Des Moines…
328.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 7:12 pm

I’ll be in my sleeping compartment.
329.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:14 pm

Bond. No that’s it. Bond. Like Cher.
330.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 7:15 pm

We’re on a mission — to Des Moines.
331.
Comment by Bart on October 18, 2008 7:15 pm

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?
332.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 7:17 pm

I never drink…jizz.
333.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:18 pm

We’re on a mission from the flying spaghetti monster.

That’s for Bob Munck.
334.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 7:18 pm

You smell that? Do you smell that? …that’s gas, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of egg farts in the morning
335.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 7:22 pm

Squeal like a turtle!
336.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 7:23 pm

Luke, I am your neighbor.
337.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 7:25 pm

Under water grottos, caverns

Filled with apes

That eat figs.

Stepping on the figs

That the apes

Eat, they crunch.
Who knows where that comes from? Anybody? Not a clue? It’s from a poem by Walt Whitman about Mr. Abraham Lincoln. Now in this class you can either call me Mr. Keating, or if you’re slightly more daring, Stepping on Figs.
338.
Comment by Chrissie Hynde’s Sister on October 18, 2008 7:27 pm

I COULD HAVE BEEN A PRETENDER!!!
339.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 7:30 pm

HAHAHAHA!
340.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 7:32 pm

Squirrels and hedgehogs and ducks OH MY!!!!!
341.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 18, 2008 7:33 pm

I’ll see you racists later.
342.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 7:34 pm

O Grunion, my Grunion!
343.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 7:50 pm

Benjamin, I just want to say one word to you – just one word….sodomy.
344.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 7:54 pm

Are you trying to seduce me , Mr. Robinson?
345.
Comment by daveintexas on October 18, 2008 8:03 pm

The grill is on.

Not a movie thing. A steak thing. UT kickoff in 5
346.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 8:07 pm

Fucking idiot is as fucking idiot does.
347.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 8:11 pm

I’m masturbating here! I’m masturbating here!
348.
Comment by pajama momma on October 18, 2008 8:22 pm

That was the summer of 1963, when everybody called me Bukake, and it didn’t occur to me to mind. That was before President Kennedy was shot, before the Beatles, when I couldn’t wait to join the Peace Corps, and I thought I’d never find a guy as great as my dad. That was the summer we went to Kellerman’s.
349.
Comment by xbradtc on October 18, 2008 8:34 pm

They call me Mr. Fibs.
350.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 8:41 pm

What can you say about a twenty-five-year-old girl who’s stacked?
351.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 8:46 pm

14-0 Texas!
352.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 8:51 pm

I see white people.
353.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 8:54 pm

That’ll do, fag.
354.
Comment by xbradtc on October 18, 2008 8:54 pm

Sometimes, you just just have to say, What the heck.
355.
Comment by xbradtc on October 18, 2008 8:55 pm

Yugo, there is no substitute.
356.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 8:56 pm

hater
357.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 9:05 pm

21-0
358.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 9:07 pm

You and I are very much alike. Scientology is our religion, yet we have both fallen from the pure faith.
359.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 9:09 pm

28
360.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 9:11 pm

Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it Des Moines, which of course in German means a whale’s vagina.
361.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:28 pm

Hey, Dad? Wanta play hide the salami?
362.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:30 pm

wiserbud…… *thud
363.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 9:30 pm

35
364.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 9:33 pm

WTF,
A injured Umpire? What did I miss?
365.
Comment by cranky the racist on October 18, 2008 9:34 pm

Nice one Rosetta the Racist. I laughed, I cried, I curled up in the fetal position.

Hey mesa, how did that Penn State versus Michigan thing work out for you?
366.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 9:34 pm

Not so good.
367.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:36 pm

Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by taking a cock in his ass for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard take a cock in his ass for his country.
368.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 9:37 pm

Penn State used the old let them score 17 points and build up a lead and then we’ll score 40 straight points game plan.
369.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 9:38 pm

I have not yet begun to err um…. wimp out?
370.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 9:40 pm

Now go out there, and win one for the Dripper!

(oh, and 35-0)
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Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:43 pm

Penn State used the old let them score 17 points and build up a lead and then we’ll score 40 straight points game plan.

Oh, that old trick..
372.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:44 pm

Rommel… you magnificent bastard. I read your horoscope!
373.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:45 pm

They’re queer….
374.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 9:50 pm

I like bacon. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Bacon treat us as equals.
Sir Winston Churchill or not
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Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 9:50 pm

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you get totally fucking wasted off your ass.
376.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 9:56 pm

Vaginas? We don’t need no stinking vaginas!
377.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 9:56 pm

Never in the field of human conflict have so many owed so much to so few. All hearts go out to MCPO
Sir Winston Churchill or not
378.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 9:56 pm

We’ll always have Des Moines.
379.
Comment by BrewFan on October 18, 2008 9:59 pm

The only thing that comes from Iowa is steers and Russ!
380.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:00 pm

Never give in — never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to PjMomma
Sir Winston Churchill or not
381.
Comment by xbradtc on October 18, 2008 10:02 pm

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! Or two, maybe three, but four, tops. Five in a pinch.
382.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 10:03 pm

When you love someone, you’ve gotta hit them. There’s no other way. You’ve got to give them the punch with everything that’s yours. Otherwise, what’s the point? And, for a while, I believed that’s the kind of love I had.
383.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:03 pm

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of BrewFan
Sir Winston Churchill or not
384.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 10:03 pm

Tell me something, my friend. You ever dance with the gerbil in the pale moonlight?
385.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 10:04 pm

The answer is out there, B-Rad, and it’s looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.
386.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 10:05 pm

Frankly, my dear, I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
387.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 10:05 pm

Throughout human history, we have been dependent on grilled cheese to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.
388.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 10:06 pm

Do not try and bend the spoon. That’s impossible. Instead… only try to realize the truth. You’re a fucking moron.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:07 pm

I have nothing to add to the reply which has already been said by Sean M
Sir Winston Churchill or not
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Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 10:08 pm

Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 6:17 pm

We’ll always have Des Moines.

Stealer.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 18, 2008 10:09 pm

Madam, I may be drunk, but you are ugly, and in the morning, I’ll still be the fucking Prime Minister and you’ll have MI5 crawling up your ass.

Sir Winston Churchill or not
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 10:09 pm

That’s right. I’ve killed women and children. I’ve killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. . . except turtles.
393.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:10 pm

The empires of the future are the empires of Wiserbud
Sir Winston Churchill or not
394.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 18, 2008 10:10 pm

Mesa – Sorry. mea culpa, mia culpa, mia maxima shut yer whining!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:11 pm

I have nothing to add to the reply which has already been said by Xbrad
Sir Winston Churchill or not
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:13 pm

Ouch thrown out stealing 2nd!
397.
Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 10:14 pm

Boom.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:15 pm

2 to 2 in the 5th Bartlett homers!
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Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 10:17 pm

It was the classic mother B.B. gun block: “You’ll shoot your balls off!”
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:18 pm

I hate nobody except Rosetta — and that is professional.

* Churchill to John Colville during WWII, quoted by Colville in his book The Churchillians (1981) or not
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Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 10:20 pm

Well when I think of home, I… I think of something specific. I think of my, my hammock in the backyard or my wife sucking my COCK or DICK in a pair of my old work gloves.
402.
Comment by Dave in Texas on October 18, 2008 10:23 pm

I, AM MARTY GUS!
403.
Comment by Vmaximus on October 18, 2008 10:24 pm

HR for varatek 3-2 reds
404.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 10:27 pm

Put!

The vibrator!

Back!
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 18, 2008 10:30 pm

Is this the first mainpage link since the 2012 olympics logo?

Rosetta did damn fine on this one.
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Comment by mesablue on October 18, 2008 10:31 pm

There have been a bunch of links, WP.

Mostly for silly stuff.
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 18, 2008 10:33 pm

Random thing, Bro’s having a bizarre combination of themes for a party tomorrow, and he stopped by just to shoot the shit tonight.

You know what he said brad?

Since we ended up having a family argument, that has been resolved, at the time of my birthday, he said, that he bought a bottle of livet for me, so I can drink in style when we get together.

Know what they said? Do you know what they said (they is bro and his wife) after sampling it?

They hate it!

Awesome! It’s All Mine.
408.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 10:33 pm

All I ask is a tall ship and a young hairless Cuban boy to caress my ballsack.
409.
Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 10:35 pm

Engrish, motherflucker! You speakee?
410.
Comment by bmac on October 18, 2008 10:36 pm

Check out the big cock on Brad!
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Comment by xbradtc on October 18, 2008 10:40 pm

Enjoy the ‘livet, Pinto.
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Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 10:41 pm

She lives beyond the grace of God, a wanderer in the outer darkness. She is “ice-wop”, “snowback”. These creatures do not die like the bee after the first sting, but instead grow strong and become immortal once infected by another Scandi. So, my friends we fight not one beast but legions that go on age after age after age, feeding on that Godawful lutefisk shit.
413.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 18, 2008 10:49 pm

isn’t lutefisk cured in salt and lye?
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Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 10:52 pm

Son, we live in a world that has glory-holes and those glory-holes need to be guarded by gay transvestites with really sharp nails. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, MCPO? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Clay Aiken and curse the Village People; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Clay Aiken’s cock, while tiny, probably feels incredible in your ass. And that my existence, while grotesque and slightly enticing to you, gives pleasure. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at lemon parties, you want me at that gloryhole, you need me at that gloryhole.
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Comment by Sean M. on October 18, 2008 10:52 pm

I don’t know about the salt, but yes, lye is involved.
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 18, 2008 10:55 pm

If we ever have a hostage roundup, I will try lutefisk if each of you pays me 20 dollars.
417.
Comment by wiserbud on October 18, 2008 11:06 pm

Never ask me about my daddy’s fingers, Kate.
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 18, 2008 11:26 pm

are they in your pooper wiser?
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Pingback by Well Said, Rosetta… | Demure Thoughts on October 18, 2008 11:48 pm

[…] I, Rosetta, Am A Proud Racist… I too am a poud racist that supports the Republican candidate for President. […]
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Comment by bmac on October 19, 2008 12:16 am

Well, got a DPUD link, an Ace link, Leon Caruthers and Jen/Demure thoughts.

The HotAir is unlikely though.
421.
Comment by xbradtc on October 19, 2008 12:28 am

Sure you’ll get a Hot Air link. The headline will be “Democrats are right! Republicans ARE racist!”
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 12:45 am

I will go on an anti-hotair jihad brad.

Rosetta, even though he used the word “nigger” isn’t remotely racist, and calling me in particular one, is rage+1.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 19, 2008 12:52 am

Dude, I was joking about the whole Allah=Eyore thing. I forgot that word was even in there.
424.
Comment by xbradtc on October 19, 2008 12:53 am

And I put up a poll with longbows as a choice and you don’t even post a snark. WTF, I thought we were tight. I guess we’re about as tight as Rosetta’s asshole after a weeklong binge of getting banged by big fat German trannies in leather…
425.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 12:54 am

I know brad, I figured you were making an “Allah the doomsayer” sorta comment.

But really, if he even thinks of it, I will go on an anti-allah (the pundit) jihad. I already hate Islam.

Nothing pisses me off more than being called a racist, even if I didn’t have the history that I do.
426.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 12:55 am

I’ve been distracted, like I said, I just resolved a family argument.
427.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 12:55 am

I didn’t even start the longbows thing, that was Steve, the artist formerly known as ed snate.
428.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 12:56 am

Actually, it wasn’t even steve, it was one of the chicks who was relatively new when I vanished.
429.
Comment by xbradtc on October 19, 2008 12:57 am

Steve started it, but you finished it…
430.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:00 am

Cuz ace had a tizzy, threatening to ban me.

“really? all the shit I’ve done, you are gonna fucking ban me for Longbows?”
431.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:06 am

I thought ace was full of shit, and I was distracted with Nom’s sycophantry.
432.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:06 am

not “full of shit” as in lying, but “full of shit” as in fucking around.
433.
Comment by Sean M. on October 19, 2008 1:08 am

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT LONGBOWS?

(sorry…couldn’t help myself.)
434.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:19 am

Ace has always gotten pissed of at me (except for one, but thats because he didn’t read what I actually said) for stupid shit.
435.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:20 am

I see the humor sean.
436.
Comment by Sean M. on October 19, 2008 1:26 am

I can understand why he gets pissed when people start posting crazy racist shit in his comments, but the longbow thing was just stupid.
437.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:34 am

Ace is kinda crazy, he just hides it, until it blows.

He goes through that shit about every 3 months.
438.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 1:36 am

I remember Ace lost it on one guy, and he mainpaged it, and it was me, and Larry (the lib guy) and someone else who were like, “NO Ace! Thats not what he said, chill!”

And then I followed up with something like “was _I_ one of the voices of reason in this thread? WTF!?”

It was really strange how easy ace blew up, and it was like 2 days after I blatantly called cindy sheehan a cunt, cuz, well, she is.
439.
Comment by Sean M. on October 19, 2008 1:51 am

…it was like 2 days after I blatantly called cindy sheehan a cunt, cuz, well, she is.

That, sir, is an affront to decent cunts everywhere.
440.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 2:05 am

ever read my AMA cunt post Sean?
441.
Comment by Sean M. on October 19, 2008 2:07 am

Nope. Put me some linky knowledge.
442.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 2:08 am

Jane Fonda is a Cunt!

Mesa kinda sorta, but not really scolded me.

It is one of my best pieces.

Strange that the more vulgar I am, the more articulate I tend to be.
443.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 2:12 am

My father read it, and called me, cuz he always fuckes up comments, and monikers and shit, cuz he knows that I don’t want my name out.

So my father read it, and called me, and said, “You don’t know the half of it.”

So I decided it was safe to send the link to my mom, and mom agree’d. (mom gave birth to her first child while my father was in “The Nam” and my mother, not always, but sometimes refer’s to vietnam as “The Nam” and she has every right.)
444.
Comment by Sean M. on October 19, 2008 2:22 am

Actually, I had read that post before, and I laughed when I got to the end (”Why did the cunt cross the road? Because Jane Fonda is a filthy cunt cunty cunt whore cunt.” heh) but I’d forgotten about it. Good post.

Anyway, I’m off to drink me some beers.
445.
Comment by Wickedpinto on October 19, 2008 2:22 am

And mom thought it was apt, father, laughed, he would have commented if he knew how to (he still doesn’t, he accidentaly jacked my name the one time he commented.)
446.
Comment by pajama momma on October 19, 2008 11:29 am

I’m beginning to think you boys have a strange obsession with turtles.
447.
Comment by Mare on October 19, 2008 3:08 pm

Preach it, brother.

Wait, is that racist?

DGAS
448.
Comment by skh.pcola on October 19, 2008 3:21 pm

Late to the game, but I, too, am a racist. I believe that MLKjr had it right when he said something about judging people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. I’m racist because I agree with that, while the 96% of the US black populace that is going to vote for Øbumba, do not.

Whatev.
449.
Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 19, 2008 3:21 pm

Mare is racist.
450.
Pingback by We’re All RACISTS Now Part the…eh, who can even keep count anymore? | Cold Fury on October 19, 2008 5:53 pm

[…] Update! Rosetta the Racist has the only proper response. […]
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Comment by thebronze on October 19, 2008 6:30 pm

I guess I’m racist too…
452.
Comment by Jones in CO on October 19, 2008 6:39 pm

count me in

1 racist
2 infidel
3 gun nut
4 likes reading and long walks on the be-

sorry- wrong website!
453.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 19, 2008 6:52 pm

Hahahaha. Over in the comments at Cold Fury, someone posted as “Stymphalian Bird “. I think that’s the new and improved, racist spurwing plover.

I knew Rosetta when.
454.
Comment by Pupster on October 19, 2008 6:56 pm

Ace put you on the front page, Racist.
455.
Comment by AnonymousDrivel on October 19, 2008 6:59 pm

I am Joe the Plumber a racist.
456.
Pingback by Racism Backlash | ChooseTheHero.com on October 19, 2008 7:00 pm

[…] As a result, the over-use of this word is leading people to being less afraid of it, as in the case of Rosetta. […]
457.
Comment by Metal Man on October 19, 2008 7:40 pm

I am Bill the technician and I am a racist.
458.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 19, 2008 7:44 pm

Bart- “Aren’t you a little short for a Storm Trooper?”
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Comment by The Big G on October 19, 2008 8:15 pm

Racist as the day is long, I am. McCain/Palin 2008!
460.
Comment by MB on October 19, 2008 9:31 pm

Sigh. I’ve been called rascist many times because I’m voting for McCain and Palin. My comeback always is, well you are sexist because you hate Palin. And you are against old people because you hate McCain. It’s completely ridiculous. I think the name calling on the democratic side has become worse this last election.

It’s sad that a 12 year old girl has to put upwith this. BTW, I do homeschool. This just makes me feel better about my choice.
461.
Comment by Unknown on October 19, 2008 9:39 pm

My name is Joe the Plumber and I’m a racist!
462.
Pingback by Tennesseefree.com » “I am a proud Racist.” In other words, I don’t support Barack Obama, no, not one little bit. on October 19, 2008 9:48 pm

[…] I, Rosetta, Am A Proud Racist […]
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Comment by Master Typo on October 19, 2008 10:06 pm

I too am a racist. In fact, I just published this fact on my blog last week. Glad to see that I’m not the only one. See:

http://www.americantypo.com/2008/10/i-am-racist.html
464.
Pingback by One Proud Racist « One American Voice on October 19, 2008 10:12 pm

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Pingback by “I am a proud Racist.” In other words, I don’t support Barack Obama, no, not one little bit. on October 19, 2008 10:15 pm

[…] I, Rosetta, Am A Proud Racist […]
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Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on October 20, 2008 12:11 am

I’m in TX so no one screws w/ my McCain/Palin yard sign. My family however, lives in Arkansas. My uncle is in north east AR on the MO border. Obama nut country.

First they smeared his McCain yard sign w/ dog shit. No biggie. Two seconds w/ the pressure washer. Then they stole it, and replaced it with an Obama sign. So a month ago he gets online and orders the biggest McCain/Palin sign he can get (4′x6′). Stakes it with a metal pole. Goes to a feed & supply warehouse and buys cattle-proof fencing (used to keep cattle out of gardens or crop fields). It’s essentially a spool of wire and a fucking car battery.

He wraps it around the stake pole, and tack staples a double loop of wire around the back edge of the sign, then hooks it up

My uncle and my cousin sit in the dining room window w/the lights out (drinkng beer) watching the sign and waiting for the retards. Moth to a flame baby. They got three that shocked the piss out’a themselves just this weekend.

Best part? My uncle is a fucking ER physician.
467.
Comment by Jazz on October 20, 2008 12:25 am

Came here from AoSHQ. Great post, and the comment banter is some of the best I’ve ever seen. I reco-nize more thsn a few names, and I lurk a lot, but I never knew how really funny some of you are. So, kudos for the post, and thanks for the grins!
468.
Comment by torabora on October 20, 2008 12:32 am

Some of my friends are racists! ;)
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Comment by Jazz on October 20, 2008 12:51 am

Oh, yeah – I’m a fucking racist, too. A super-enthusiastic, hate-crime-enhanced racist just itchin’ to do a little ballot-box lynchin’. I am in stature to neo-racism what the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man was to a real man. I’m really sweet like that, too. BTW, remember his color? I’m thinkin’ he was a racist, too. He couldn’t vote, though, so I guess he really doesn’t matter. That, and he’s fuckin’ made up, which doesn’t really seem to matter to ACORN. I wonder if he’s registered somewhere? Meh. No matter. Point is, I’m a racist.
470.
Comment by eve on October 20, 2008 2:48 am

wow.
you’re pretty fucking scary.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 6:41 am

Master Typo, your post was well worth reading. And you beat Rosetta by over a week.
472.
Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 6:42 am

Lamont, I think your uncle is a closeted Hostage.
473.
Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 9:01 am

you’re pretty fucking scary.

You’re gonna have to be a little more specific than that, eve. Who is scary?
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Comment by Bart on October 20, 2008 9:18 am

hahaha, Rosetta has a vagina!

Protein Wisdom made it official by prefacing this post with: “Rosetta, blogging at The Wicked Pinto (h/t Ace) writes that she is a proud…”

Yeah, our Rosetta is a proud ol’ girl, alright.
475.
Comment by Bart on October 20, 2008 9:21 am

oh and mornin pantywaists

(what’s a pantywaist, btw?)

(I always thought it was panty-wastes, as in “poop in your drawers”)
476.
Comment by Jazz on October 20, 2008 9:45 am

wiserbud: You’re gonna have to be a little more specific than that, eve. Who is scary?

I’m guessing she means me. I might have gone a little over the top. Honestly, though, I’m ready to exercise my SURE against BO. (”Raise your hand if you’re SURE!”) I just want this thing done with Him relegated to the anals of history. (Yeah, I know it’s annals, but they’re close enough to be a little humorous, and my choice more fittingly illustrates the disparagingly low esteem in which I hold Mr. Obama.)
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Pingback by Today, in Idiots (TQP0106): « Threat Quality Press on October 20, 2008 9:45 am

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Comment by joethemechanic on October 20, 2008 11:11 am

I’m a left coast racist, and there’s a lot to be racist about here. I am also a minority here. Same sex marriage NO! Abortion NO! Bigger government NO! Taxes those who work to give to those who don’t NO! Rosetta thanks for a great topic and perspective.
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Comment by nearlynormalized on October 20, 2008 12:20 pm

What has the right done for you lately? What have you done right lately? Get over yourself, the change is here and the majority of this country are ready, either you get on the train or stay your foolish self and weep over your collective passages in the out of date “Bible.” New edition needs to be written, fiction needs new energy.
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Comment by eddiebear on October 20, 2008 12:24 pm

^and does that include worshipping at the altar of Algore the Rotund?
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 12:30 pm

What has the right done for you lately? What have you done right lately? Get over yourself, the change is here and the majority of this country are ready, either you get on the train or stay your foolish self and weep over your collective passages in the out of date “Bible.” New edition needs to be written, fiction needs new energy.

True believer! Tell me, commerade, can we count on you to be as enthusiastic when suddenly your worldview is no longer in vogue? It is amazing how much the quote “I love America. That’s why it needs to be destroyed.” can be applied to everything the Left says.

Sorry. Go sell stupid somewhere else. We’re not buying.
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Comment by sanabituranima on October 20, 2008 12:41 pm

“That’s not politics, Ms. DiPane, you fucking dunce, that’s a fascistic attempt to silence speech.”

Facism is politics. It may not be nice politics. It may not be rational politics. That doesn’t mean it isn’t politics.

” The racism that pulses through my veins leads me to believe that all life is precious including that of the unborn.

* As an unrepentent racist, I believe it is my right to keep and bear arms and make swiss cheese of anyone that threatens me or my family.”

Those two statements are completely incompatible. Valuing all life means just that – valuing the lives of every human even the lives of those who do not respect the right to life of others.

If you are being threatened, the pro-life thing to do is to run away.

” Being the racist that I am, I believe that being a well-spoken community organizer, a state Senator and a less-than-one-term U.S. Senator does not qualify you to be President of the United States.”

I share your scepticism. However, I think you’ll find the Republican VP candidate isn’t drowning in a flood of experience. I also question the foreign-policy knowledge of a woman who only got a passport a year ago.

Also, I don’;t think you can blame Obama for what a bunch of stupid school bullies think about a giorl’s T-shirt, unless you have reliable evidence of him or a member of his campaign team explicitly saying “Anyone who doesn’t vote for me is a racist” or “Voting for a white person is racist”.

The fact is, bullies will pick on anyone who’s different, whether that difference is their weight, height, skin colour, disability, accent, political views, dress sense or some other difference. However, it doesn’t usually make headline news. I know a girl whose classmates thought it was funny to pick on disabled kids. They humiliated her in public. They stole from her. They broke three of her ribs. They drove her to attempt suicide. That never made headline news.

So why did this make headline news? Because it is Republicans, not Democrats, who are obsessed with “the race card”. Time and time again, I hear it said or implied that the only reason to vote for Obama is fear of appearing racist by not voting for him. That’s simply not true. I respect your right to disagree with Obama’s policies. If you think that it is permissable to sacrifice the lives of innocent human beings in the name of a democracy they never actually asked for, I see your point but respectfully disagree. If you think that the recent financial crisis is evidence that markets need less regulation, not more, then you have every right to hold that opinion. But I have believed the opposite for a long time, before Obama was even a candidate and I did not believe it out of fear of being labelled racist, but out of genuine convictions.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 12:47 pm

sanabituranima, what are you wearing right now?
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 12:57 pm

Oh, damn, sanabituranima , that is such fertile ground for relentless ridcule , I just wish I had enough time.

But I’ll take this short one.

Valuing all life means just that – valuing the lives of every human even the lives of those who do not respect the right to life of others.

No it doesn’t.

Can you not see the difference between an innocent life that has done absolutely nothing but be conceived and a criminal who has made the conscious decision, on their own, to cause harm to another person? Can you really equate these two completely different situations and then pretend that it is logical to provide both of these beings equal protection?

Not all life is worthy of my respect or protection. However, it takes more than to be considered an inconvenience or a punishment for me to want to destroy it.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 1:06 pm

If you think that it is permissable to sacrifice the lives of innocent human beings in the name of a democracy they never actually asked for, I see your point but respectfully disagree.

Yes, they were all enjoying their visits to the rape rooms, being tortured, and slaughtered wholesale by their former govenment. Who the heck would want self determination after such a rocking good time?

1. We have a volunteer military, the lives were theirs to sacrifice. They didn’t need to ask your permission.

2. If you think that the Iraqi people aren’t grateful, then ask yourself why their voter turnout puts ours to shame.

3. “run away” is not respecting life, it is empowering the worst among us to be the worst among us, whereas dispatch with extreme prejudice not only removes the immediate threat, it discourages others from making an equally poor choice.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 1:07 pm

Also, I don’;t think you can blame Obama for what a bunch of stupid school bullies think about a giorl’s T-shirt, unless you have reliable evidence of him or a member of his campaign team explicitly saying “Anyone who doesn’t vote for me is a racist” or “Voting for a white person is racist”.

“Western Pennsylvania is a racist area.” (when referring to the Presidential race and Obama’s chances of winning PA.) – John Murtha, (D)

Pretty old school kid, but yes, I’ll agree, he is pretty stupid.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 1:14 pm

I don’t think it needs to any more explicit than Obama’s “They’re gonna tell you…” drivel.

Wretched race-baiting.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 1:31 pm

HEY!!!!! Save some for me!!!
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Comment by NR Davis on October 20, 2008 1:33 pm

I am neither a Democrat nor a McCain supporter. My vote is going to Obama. That said, there are more old-definition racists than you realize. Most of those supporting McCain, IMO, are not racists. Some of them are, and some Obama supporters, strangely, probably are too. I agree with you on this: What’s being done to that 12-year-old girl is totally wrong and I hope she continues to stand for what she believes. But please do not condemn the majority for the actions of a horrible FEW. You are certainly entitled to view Sen. Obama any way you wish, but blaming him for the actions of a few hateful wackos is not fair either. Should we blame Sen. McCain for the robocall smear effort now under way? I do not and cannot in good conscience support him or Gov. Palin, however, when the woman told him Obama was an Arab, I could see the pain on his face. Obviously, he is personally uncomfortable with much of the rhetoric and lies being spread. The same is true for Obama.

And redefining the word “racist” to taint the otherwise good word “Republican” does not serve you well. Clearly you are not a prejudiced person — most Republicans I know are not. But by appropriating the word in the fashion in which you are doing only serves to increase “real” racism in this already troubled society and to mark yourself badly and unfairly. Surely that is not your goal.

Please, for the sake of all that is good and decent, reconsider. I respect you and your right to hold whatever opinions you choose and wish you happiness and peace. People of all parties should be united against racism and against what was done to Ashleigh.
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Comment by bmac on October 20, 2008 1:35 pm

Comment by nearlynormalized on October 20, 2008

That’s a sweet beret bro.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 1:38 pm

Some of them are, and some Obama supporters, strangely, probably are too.

“Strangely” Really, is that word you meant to use???

between 95% and 98% of blacks are voting for Obama. Is that not racist?
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 1:47 pm

People of all parties should be united against racism and against what was done to Ashleigh.

Agreed, NR Davis. And thank you for your thoughtful, moonbattery-free comment.

The point of my post is that there are more supporters of Obama and members of the MSM (redundant) that do believe Republican = Racist than I think you are comfortable admitting. It is not a few loose cannons. It is institutionalized in the Democrat party and the media.

The comment of John Lewis comparing McCain-Palin rallies to the hatred incited by George Wallace and the way that comment was covered by the media supports my contention.

I know Lewis walked his comment back after McCain took him to task for it but that Lewis, who was so instrumental in the civil rights movement against acutal racism and actual racists, would even conceive of that equivalency belies the fact that it is not a few far-left whackos that believe that Republicans are de facto racists. That view is much more prevalent than I think you would like to admit.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 1:49 pm

And redefining the word “racist” to taint the otherwise good word “Republican” does not serve you well. Clearly you are not a prejudiced person — most Republicans I know are not. But by appropriating the word in the fashion in which you are doing only serves to increase “real” racism in this already troubled society and to mark yourself badly and unfairly. Surely that is not your goal.

Except that “we” didn’t redefine the word. That particular act was perpetrated by Barry the Blessed™ himself when he, and so far only he, has invoked its use to talk about people committing the unpardonable sin of NOT voting for him.

Listen, you seem to be well intentioned, and I believe you could benefit yourself by spending a little bit more time learning about Obama from someone who isn’t him or one of his surrogates. A good place to start is the link to NICE DEB on the right hand side blogroll.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 1:50 pm

Surely that is not your goal.

Yes it is, and don’t call me “Surely”!
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 1:51 pm

But please do not condemn the majority for the actions of a horrible FEW. You are certainly entitled to view Sen. Obama any way you wish, but blaming him for the actions of a few hateful wackos is not fair either.

It’s far more pervasive than that. That’s the point of the post – that this the go-to strategem employed by Obama supporters and Obama himself.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 1:55 pm

Yes it is, and don’t call me “Surely”!

Hahahahaha. Good one.

Hey MCPO, when is your birthday?
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 1:56 pm

For that matter, when is your birthday, Geoff?

I need to add you to the birthday roast list.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 1:56 pm

I’m on the list, retard! 12 January.
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 1:56 pm

I hate elections-It brings the worst in people. If her parent didn`t know Why you shouldn`t involve a child with politics, NOW SHE KNOWS!!! They`ll be old enough to participate in the national hazing soon enough. And if you don`t think it`s Greek week, then you haven`t read all the dumb a$$ comments on this thread. Let the fu*&% kids be innocent for cripes sake! And yes you are all racist, burn in hell. Times two for involving your kids.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 1:58 pm

Get over yourself, the change is here and the majority of this country are ready, either you get on the train or stay your foolish self and weep over your collective passages in the out of date “Bible.” New edition needs to be written, fiction needs new energy.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Comments like that make me as happy as a little schoolgirl.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 2:01 pm

For that matter, when is your birthday, Geoff?

8 days hence.
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Comment by bmac on October 20, 2008 2:04 pm

And yes you are all racist, burn in hell.

I hate elections-It brings the worst in people.

You proved your own point meme.
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Comment by Will on October 20, 2008 2:07 pm

They may take our helmets, but they’ll never take OUR TAPIOCAAAAAAA!

Serious political commentary interrupted by a joke thread: I read The Hostages.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 2:10 pm

And if you don`t think it`s Greek week, then you haven`t read all the dumb a$$ comments on this thread

Who has the lube? Meme is looking for some Anne Hathaway action!
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 2:16 pm

Let the fu*&% kids be innocent for cripes sake! And yes you are all racist, burn in hell. Times two for involving your kids.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! Yeah, let’s keep the kids out of this, shall we?

Let’s just let them be kids.

Clean your own house first, numbnuts.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:18 pm

I’m on the list, retard! 12 January.

It’s not on the list you flaming homosexual, that’s why I asked. It says “- 2 old dirt” next to your name. Hahaha.

And yes you are all racist, burn in hell.

Hahahaha. Of course we’re all racists, you booger-eating Communist. That’s the point of the post.

READING COMPREHENSION FAIL!!!!
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 2:21 pm

t’s not on the list you flaming homosexual, that’s why I asked. It says “- 2 old dirt” next to your name. Hahaha.

I was born in a cross-fire hurricane
And I howled at my Ma in the driving rain,
But its all right now, in fact, its a gas!
But its all right. I’m jumpin’ Jack Flash,
Its a gas! gas! gas!
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 2:21 pm

Quit bogarting the weed MCPO
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:24 pm

Unlike Fucking Insane Radical Islamist Terrorists™ that get 72 virgins when they blow themselves to Kingdom Come, Fucking Insane Man-Lesbians™ get 72 trolls.

This is heaven.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:26 pm

8 days hence.

Oh that’s excellent timing.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 2:31 pm

Oh that’s excellent timing.

Run, geoff. (Hmmm, or is it…Jeff?) Run and never look back.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 2:32 pm

PJ- did you see how I improved your post?
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 2:34 pm

It was very cute MCPO. I’m sick and I’m now going back to bed

*pats MCPO on head

welcome back sohos
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 2:36 pm

Is it morning sickness, PJ?
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:36 pm

pajama momma must have morning sickness.
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 2:37 pm

“Get over yourself, the change is here and the majority of this country are ready, either you get on the train or stay your foolish self and weep over your collective passages in the out of date “Bible.” New edition needs to be written, fiction needs new energy.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Comments like that make me as happy as a little schoolgirl.”

I`m an atheist you dumb bi5h- If I made a reference to hell, it`s because I want your bigoted a$$ to suffer.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:37 pm

Hahahahaha.

WRITE YOUR OWN MATERIAL, XBRADTC!!!
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 2:39 pm

quit cribbing my notes, lesbian!
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 2:41 pm

why do meme and other trolls seem to think that just because I’m a believer, that it is the sole reason for my conservative leanings? Just FYI, I’ve been a conservative and a Republican a lot longer than a Christian. And I am perfectly at ease with the concept that one can be a Democrat and a Christian or an atheist and a Republican.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 2:41 pm

“meme”. What an apt appellation. Tool.
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 2:42 pm

fu$k you are all rollin in it. Suck it nice and hard every one- that is exactly what they want you to do and you know ya all want it any way. Enjoy it dicks!!!!!!!!
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 2:42 pm

What is a bi5h? Thank you for informing us of your religious affiliation. . . like we give a shit!
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 2:43 pm

so why answer?
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 20, 2008 2:43 pm

Seeing as we seem to have let up on battering trolls,
I need teh morons help. This picture is begging for a caption, I just cannot quite find the words.
Dude! Where are my Sunglasses?
I have had 2 suggestions so far one was “you put WHAT in the brownies” the other was a comment that he looked like he just burned one.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 2:43 pm

Enjoy it dicks!!!!!!!! Cum again?!
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 2:44 pm

fu$k you are all rollin in it. Suck it nice and hard every one- that is exactly what they want you to do and you know ya all want it any way. Enjoy it dicks!!!!!!!!

Didn’t take long to get you to a true leftist argument. C’mon, you can do better than that. Make us work for it, you mental deficient. I didn’t even stop multitasking when reading your rhetorical vomit.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 2:46 pm

fu$k you are all rollin in it. Suck it nice and hard every one- that is exactly what they want you to do and you know ya all want it any way. Enjoy it dicks!!!!!!!!

Didn’t take long to get you to a true leftist argument. C’mon, you can do better than that. Make us work for it, you mental deficient. I didn’t even stop multitasking when reading your rhetorical vomit.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:46 pm

I`m an atheist you dumb bi5h- If I made a reference to hell, it`s because I want your bigoted a$$ to suffer.

My bigoted a$$ suffers whenever I read your barely comprehensible comments. If you’re this thick with text I bet your hermaphroditic wife is suicidal when you speak.

And you know, you can type actual profanity in your comments, you Godless dumbfuck cocksucking socialist douchenozzle.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 2:47 pm

Oh good Lord, meme, you are attributing Rosetta’s quote from a commenter as being something actually said by Rosetta?

Total reading apprehension FAIL for meme!

Oh, and meme? We are adults here and don’t use the $ when we really want to be profane. Aren’t you going to be late for class?
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 2:47 pm

Meme? The bell rang. Aren’t you tardy for your Social Studies class?
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 2:48 pm

It’s sad that extremist idiots (on BOTH sides) behave this way. You labeling it as a Democrat “conspiracy”, though? Sorry, but bullsh*t. You’ve taken a sad example of people being tools and turned it into an episode of the X-Files.
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 2:49 pm

Ohhh nice attacks-Now I know how the little shit who wore the Palin shirt felt. OUCH!!
NOT!!
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 2:49 pm

What’s with meme’s hostility toward the GLBT community?

Not very enlightened.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 2:50 pm

Meme? The bell rang. Aren’t you tardy for your Socia Socialistl Studies class?

FTFY
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 2:50 pm

Brad, quit putting your mind feelers in our brains!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 20, 2008 2:50 pm

Naw Meme is probably hanging out in study hall
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 2:51 pm

You labeling it as a Democrat “conspiracy”, though? Sorry, but bullsh*t.

What are you hiding, cuspidor? Who are you protecting? HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW!?!?!
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 2:51 pm

meme, if you want to put forth a debatable argument, go for it. Otherwise, we’ll treat your little tantrums in the spirit in which you’re offering them—childish and churlish.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 2:53 pm

fu$k you are all rollin in it. Suck it nice and hard every one- that is exactly what they want you to do and you know ya all want it any way. Enjoy it dicks!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING TROLL JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you know why meme crossed the road?

Because there is no God other than Obama. Also, he superglued his tiny dick-shaped appendage to the chicken.
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 2:54 pm

FAIL FAIL FAIL-you PREACH about those who hurt the palin lover fuck and ya all suffer from the same disease. Self righteous. I may be a godless “socialist” but you shits are no better.
FAIL!!!
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 2:55 pm

PartyAnn? Great minds think alike. Somehow I hopped on that bus as well.
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 2:55 pm

@ Geoff: THE TRUTH? THE TRUTH? YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

I’ve just realised how ripe this is for a quick round of “Do you have the tape?” – Maybe API are closet X-Files fans, as well as being fuill of cr@p! Those too young to have been watching the X-Files in the early ’90s, ask your parents ;)
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Comment by meme on October 20, 2008 2:56 pm

You are slow chicken wing- you are putting sauce on that now?? I better leave before my little piggie gets any lower. My nympho sheep wants some.

Look a birds.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 2:57 pm

you guys are needed on my post above
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 2:57 pm

Custador, I wouldn’t say a conspiracy, but I would argue that the Obama campaign has consistently implied that any and all objections to his election/crowning are driven by racist impulses. He himself preemptively accused Republicans of “code word” attacks.
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Comment by Justin on October 20, 2008 2:58 pm

meme leaves when his nympho wife wants some?

I guess the mailman is delivering.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 20, 2008 2:59 pm

My, you racists sure are chatty today.
Where’s my chicken noodle soup?
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 3:00 pm

My nympho wife wants some.

Yeesh. Totally high school.

I better leave before my IQ gets any lower.

Lucky for you : there doesn’t appear to be much downside risk.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 3:00 pm

“You are slow retard”

PLEASE, meme, we get really confused when we don’t know which retard to which you are referring.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 3:01 pm

“Lucky for you : there doesn’t appear to be much downside risk.”

That Geoff just cuts straight through all the bullshit.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 3:01 pm

Ohhh nice attacks-Now I know how the little shit who wore the Palin shirt felt. OUCH!!
NOT!!

And why the fuck should you be treated better than anyone else who comments here??? This is The Hostages you sperm-burping lemon party organizer!!!

Seriously, you come here, fling the poo, and think that there isn’t a reason we shouldn’t disect your idiotic ramblings and eviscerate you with the pieces? You got an extra helping of stupid right before birth, didn’t you?
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:02 pm

@ xbradtc: Aaaaaand Sarah Palin (for example) is innocent on every charge as far as that goes? I (an Evil Liberal(TM)) am fully aware that not every McCain/Palin supporter is racist (I’d go so far as to say that there probably aren’t that many who are), and yes, I can see elements in the Obama camp who have misused the race card, however – I can also see elements in the McCain camp who’ve done the same thing (e.g. the sudden insistance on “Barrack HUSSEIN *wink-wink-nudge-nudge* Obama”….
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:04 pm

I forgot to end the bold tag on that one…. Sorry….
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 3:04 pm

That sudden insistence on Barrack HUSSEIN (John McCain immediately disavowed the introduction) Obama?
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 3:06 pm

You labeling it as a Democrat “conspiracy”, though? You’ve taken a sad example of people being tools and turned it into an episode of the X-Files.

Once, it’s an aberration. Twice, it’s a coincidence. Hundreds and hundreds of times? After being told by “Dear Leader” to “get in their faces” and to “shout them down?” And also when you have people actually have the power to arrest and detain you creating an atmosphere of fear (see Missouri Truth Squads)? Then it is a movement.

Or a conspiracy. You can choose the words. But it smells more like a movement to me.
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:07 pm

Which is why I said “elements in the McCain camp”, as opposed to “John McCain himself” :)
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 3:08 pm

“But it smells more like a movement to me.”

I love you, wiser.
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Comment by chicdesigner on October 20, 2008 3:09 pm

I came late in the conversation Sorry!! I thought he said Obama Bin Laden?? Did he not?
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 3:11 pm

(e.g. the sudden insistance on “Barrack HUSSEIN *wink-wink-nudge-nudge* Obama”….

Is that not his name?

Seriously, man up, bitch. You don’t hear George McChimpyHalliburtonCheney Bush whining about people saying his middle name, do ya?
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:11 pm

@ Wiserbud:

Again, balance! You’ve not mentioned the tacit implications from Sarah Palin that Obama is a terrorist, nor her complete failure to control racist and xenophobic sentiment in her crowds – in fact, if anything she’s stirred up a seriously nasty nest of hate. John McCain might have corrected some folks, but only after a hell of a lot of pressure!

Again, I’m not saying the Dems are innocent here, but try to see both sides. You accuse Obama of conspiracy because some Dems are doing the same stuff as some Repubs – are you also accusing John McCain of conspiracy?
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:12 pm

@ Wiserbud: LOL!
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Comment by chicdesigner on October 20, 2008 3:12 pm

I always though McCain did that. This is the first year I am considering not voting.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 3:13 pm

Aaaaaand Sarah Palin (for example) is innocent on every charge as far as that goes?

Well, based on the evidence put forth so far, she’s not guily of any charges.
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:14 pm

@ Geoff: Isn’t that what the report said? Yeeeeaaah…..
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 3:15 pm

Ooooh, NiceDeb has another great post up about ACORN.
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Comment by custador on October 20, 2008 3:15 pm

I gotta go, but you lot made me laugh, so I be blogrolling ure page for future reference.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 3:16 pm

her complete failure to control racist and xenophobic sentiment in her crowds

…or Obama’s complete failure to control the new-found misogynism of his crowds.

Not to mention that the “kill him” incident appears to be entirely the imagination of one reporter.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 3:17 pm

I like you, custador. We have been sorely lacking in thoughtful and intelligent (as it were…HA!) commenters here with whom we can debate and argue. I mean that sincerely.

We only get into politics maybe 25% of the time on this blog but I like having someone here that can debate and disagree intelligently. I hope you become a regular visitor.

But I also like trolls of the meme variety because I like to swear a lot, call people names and otherwise insult people that are asking for it.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 3:18 pm

Custador, are you bringing up the “Kill him” argument? The one that the Secret Service investigated and found to be baseless. That in a crowd of thousands, the only person who heard that was the one reporter who wrote it into a story?

Now, if Sara is guilty of incitement because she mentions that Obama likes to hang around with unrepentant terrorists, well, I don’t know what to tell you. Because HE DOES like to hang around with unrepentant terrorists.
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Comment by mesablue on October 20, 2008 3:19 pm

custador, the supposed hate at Palin rallies has been pretty much proven to be the partisan rantings of one or two liberal reporters. No one else heard the statements out of thousands of people. Yet, one small town reporter who was standing next to dozens of members of national press who would love to write a negative story about Palin is the only one who hears anything. I think not.

There are bound to be idiots on both sides, but Palin rallies are overwhelmingly positive. I’ve been to one — it was refreshing in it’s positiveness compared to other campaign events I’ve attended.

The media’s attempt to be fair and balanced has been to try to seek out the most outspoken redneck at any Palin event and provoke them for a reaction.

Bias.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 3:20 pm

Geoff: Isn’t that what the report said? Yeeeeaaah…..

Ummm…..neeeeyyyyyooooooooooo.

The report said that she was within her legal rights to terminate Monegan, but that she had abused her position. But it never gave any real evidence to that effect. Not very impressive for a targeted hit job.

So she was at least innocent of illegally firing Monegan. And until they can bring more substantive evidence on the “abuse of power” charge, I’m witholding judgment.
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Comment by TG on October 20, 2008 3:20 pm

Thanks Rosetta -now I can proudly proclaim I am a racist because I know Colin Powell is a DICK!!! or COCK!!!
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Comment by bmac on October 20, 2008 3:22 pm

The “Kill Him” argument has been debunked, it’s a non-issue. It was hearsay to begin with.

Not a pimple on the ass of the hateful “Cunt” t-shirts that were on Obama’a own website.

Stay classy Dems.
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Comment by mesablue on October 20, 2008 3:22 pm

Who is this meme person? And why is it talking about chicken wings and sheep?
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 3:23 pm

Further, the report on Palin has absolutely no legal standing. It is just the opinion of one man. It has the same legal weight as your opinion or mine.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 3:30 pm

You’ve not mentioned the tacit implications from Sarah Palin that Obama is a terrorist

Not tacit implications. She simple reminds people that Obama is long-time friends with unrepentant domestic terrorists. Is she wrong? If so, exactly how?

nor her complete failure to control racist and xenophobic sentiment in her crowds

Can you provide an example of Obama asking his crowd to be more respectful? Perhaps if he *wink, wink wasn’t busy making not-so-subtle jokes *wink wink like “lipstick on a pig”, he might have noticed that there is some pretty nasty stuff being said by his supporters about both Sarah and John. Any word on when he will denounce those supporters?

if anything she’s stirred up a seriously nasty nest of hate.

You want hate, go to DKos or DU. Dude, we ain;t got nothing on those evil bastards. Seriously, clean your own house before you come and complain about how dirty mine is.

are you also accusing John McCain of conspiracy?

HAs John told anyone to “get in t heir faces?” Has john accused Dems of not voting for him because he’s white and may not look like them? Has John cozied up to the hate-filled lunatics on the right-leaning blogs (as though there are any that rival DKos and DU) as they make wild, vile, unsubstantiated attacks on his opponents?

If anyone has fomented hatred and diviseness in this campaign, it’s Obama and his team of attack dogs. He may pretend to be above it all, but his remarks and his actions belie that disconnect.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 3:30 pm

You’ve not mentioned the tacit implications from Sarah Palin that Obama is a terrorist

A point of clarification, custador. Palin is not implying that Obama is a terrorist by saying that he was “palling around with terrorists”.

She is implying that he was palling around with terrorists because he was palling around with terrorists.

And the factual nature of that statement does not depend on what the definition of “terrorist” is.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 3:38 pm

Holy shit, custador gave me an LOL.

Is it possible? Can it be?? Have we found {gasp} a liberal with an actual sense of humor?

custador, y’all come on back, y’here? Door’s always open for someone with an actual sense of humor.

I love you, wiser. – PattyAnn

Right back atcha, dollface.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 3:43 pm

Thanks Rosetta -now I can proudly proclaim I am a racist because I know Colin Powell is a DICK!!! or COCK!!!

Hahahaha.

DON’T TALK SHIT ABOUT TOTAL, B!!!!!
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 3:45 pm

Is it possible? Can it be?? Have we found {gasp} a liberal with an actual sense of humor?

I know! I invited custador to hang out here more often. I like our new friends!!
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 3:46 pm

I like our new friends!!

Well, some of them, anyway.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 3:49 pm

Now you’re making me feel bad for calling him a spittoon.

Figured it was better to shoot first and see if he was reasonable later.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 3:52 pm

Figured it was better to shoot first and see if he was reasonable later.

Well, we haven’t completely determined the full character of our new detainee, but so far, seems like he could be fun.

That is until ‘pinto runs him off.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 3:54 pm

This is it? This is the best the KOSTARDS AND DUMMIE UNDERGROUND can toss at us? Talk about a let down. What a buzzkill.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 3:54 pm

^ or, unless he’s a turtle
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Comment by Dave in Texas on October 20, 2008 3:56 pm

Are you a turtle?
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 3:57 pm

Figured it was better to shoot first and see if he was reasonable later.

Hahahaha. That’s always the correct policy, geoff. If they’re worth their salt, the initial arrows won’t do much harm.

That is until ‘pinto runs him off.

He better not! I’ve been trying to make this happen for a year.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 20, 2008 4:00 pm

DiT, no, I was saying we wouldn’t run Biscuspid off unless he was a turtle and PJM offered to take him home for her kids to play with.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 4:00 pm

http://custador.wordpress.com/category/obama/

Hmmmmmm, he seems like he could be lots of fun, what with the calls to violence against political opponents and such. Although, I can’t say I disagree with his position on denying the right to vote for dumb people.

I doubt it would turn out for him as well as he thinks, however. First of all, there goes all those hobos that ACORN signed up, right off the bat.

Plus, he thinks Sarah is teh stupid. Now there’s an original point of attack on a Republican: “They’re stoopid.”

yawn.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 4:03 pm

Are you a turtle?

YBYSAIA
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 4:08 pm

Yannow, I’m gonna bury that turtle in pet semetary and sick him on all of you!

and what does, YBYSAIA, mean anyways?
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Comment by bmac on October 20, 2008 4:08 pm

Palin is coming to Vegas tomorrow, but odd thing, her visit is not listed anywhere in the city webpages, even the venue she’s appearing at lists “No Scheduled Events.”
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 4:10 pm

well rosetta’s given us record views today, so far, 5,750
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 4:10 pm

DiT – The correct response is, “You bet your sweet ass I am!”
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 4:11 pm

MCPO, I’m not playing with the turtle, it will be my children
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 4:16 pm

and what does, YBYSAIA, mean anyways?

Well, if MCPO hadn’t blurted it out for all non-turtles to hear, I’d have said that you have to earn ithat answer by going through the initiation trials of the Royal Order of the Turtle.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 4:22 pm

Heck noooooooooo

and dur, now I get it
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 4:27 pm

Oops, I shouldn’t have said that, should I?
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 4:29 pm

The initiation ceremony is that you must answer these questions:

The answers to the following questions are neither vulgar, lewd, nor salacious.

What does a woman do sitting down, that a dog does on three legs, and a man does standing up?
What is a four letter word, ending with “k,” that means intercourse?
What is so long, and so hard, and sticks so far out of a man’s pajamas in the morning, that he could hang a hat upon it??
What does a cow have four of, that a woman only has two of?
What is long, hard, and tubular and filled with “sea-men?”
What is heard almost every day that rhymes with “duck” and begins with “F?”
What does a dog do that a man steps into?
What goes in hard and dry and comes out flaccid and moist?
What is six inches long, has a head on it and is the object of many women’s fantasies?
You must speak to a turtle to verify your solutions.

The first one is impossible to get, since it’s no longer true. But it was true in Victorian times.

When I took the test, they only asked the first 4.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 20, 2008 4:41 pm

1. Shake hands
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Comment by huntingdonpost on October 20, 2008 5:00 pm

If I vote for Cynthia McKinney can I escape being called a racist by the Obama campaign, or am I just a closet racist? Maybe I just can’t admit it to myself.
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Comment by Dark Defender on October 20, 2008 6:09 pm

Way to take on the crypto-racist Obama/MSM campaign, go Rosetta!
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Comment by The University Princess on October 20, 2008 6:45 pm

but in the new, post-racial sense that I too support McCain for President.

The unfortunate thing is…

Obama = next president.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 6:53 pm

UP – If that’s the best you can come up with your parents should ask for their money back from the “University”. BTW – How are your studies at Hamburger University going?
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 20, 2008 6:54 pm

is that “hahaha” as in “I’m laughing at you, you idiots, who know how to put together a coherent post, pointing out the double standards and hypocrisy of the media, while also having the talent to use quotes, or tags to highlight a reference?”

Or is it, “hahaha,” “I want to cry like a baby, but I’m gonna laugh in horror and fear at the coming socialist nightmare, to prepare for the next battle for civilization?”
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 7:09 pm

The unfortunate thing is…

Obama = next president.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thus demonstrating the outstanding job done by closeted marxists like Bombing Billy Ayers in dumbing down the cognitive abilities of the average university student. Of course, her support of the Dear Leader will be appreciated when her institution of higher yearning is renamed after some hero of the state, like the brave and noble Bernadine Dorhn.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 20, 2008 7:14 pm

Unfortunately, I think UofP is right. I think there are too many ignorant people in our country and they are blinded by the media/celebrities/celebrity wannabees. Obama is going to be our next president because too many people are too lazy to look into the issues that Obama supports or claims to support. He’s going to tax the hell out of us to do all that he wants to do. I’m hoping he has an “OOPS” moment when he gets into office and realizes he’s fairytale fantasy of what it’s really like to run something is nothing like he expected and he turns to people who can be trusted. But, I doubt it! He’ll turn to his wife and Lord help us!!!!!!
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Comment by ifiwererunningforpresident on October 20, 2008 7:15 pm

As an asian/latino, when I was a 12 year old growing in a nearly all-white neighborhood I was called for worse things than a “racist.”

But none of those would ever make headlines, nor should this frankly.

It’s a weak straw man argument at best. One dumb kid’s remarks does not require that you so “boldly” defend this brand of “racism.” It doesn’t exist, you’re just looking to get offended.
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Comment by QuakerDave on October 20, 2008 7:16 pm

I wouldn’t say you were a racist, based on this.

I would say that I feel sorry for you, though. Especially if you really believe the crap you’ve posted here.

Pathetic.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 20, 2008 7:17 pm

:::sigh::::
Rosetta, people don’t seem to “get” you.
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Comment by Wickedpinto on October 20, 2008 7:19 pm

Ifiwererunningforpresident,

politicizing the youth, is very, very fascistic, and for kids to recognize 2 proper nouns, and correlate that with racism, is a very chilling thing.
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Comment by bmac on October 20, 2008 7:25 pm

Good thing you’re not running for President.
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Comment by geoff on October 20, 2008 7:25 pm

As an asian/latino, when I was a 12 year old growing in a nearly all-white neighborhood I was called for worse things than a “racist.”

In modern times, the most offensive word is the n- word, and the most insulting accusation is that you are a racist. When I was a 12 year old growing up in a mixed ethnicity neighborhood, I was called names by Latinos and blacks, too. At the time they were far worse than “racist.” Now they just seem funny.

I would say that I feel sorry for you, though.

Feel free.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 7:27 pm

It doesn’t exist, you’re just looking to get offended.

We could never be as offended as the purveyors of Political Correctness, who continually redfine the English Language and confuse their offense at not being taken at face value as something to be offended about, or by a socialist running for President who consistently implies that anyone intelligent enough to recognize him for what he is, is somehow “Racist”.

My offense is at the death of shame and the inability of the American Left to be honest about what it is, and has instead determined that it is its RIGHT to redefine the institutions of this nation which have helped make it the destination of choice of generations of immigrants who believed they could do better for themselves than their government could do for them.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 7:34 pm

It doesn’t exist, you’re just looking to get offended.

Man, this is like a retard swarm.

Troll # 14, it is beyond the ability of you or the collective of retards known as the Democrats to offend me.

But even though you lack the skills, please keep trying.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 7:42 pm

Man, this is like a retard swarm.

Night of the Living Obamazombies. No matter how plaintively they cry for “BRRRAAAAIINNNSSSSSSSSS!!!!”, they simply cannot find any among the Obama faithful.
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Comment by Jewel Atkins on October 20, 2008 8:58 pm

Hey, where’s the cool yard sign you had a while ago! I like it, I really like it. Please send me a copy of it.
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Comment by BrewFan on October 20, 2008 9:07 pm

Jewel, heres the link


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Comment by BrewFan on October 20, 2008 9:08 pm

A little help please! I was trying to be a Good Do-Bee™ and give Jewel a link and the spaminator got it!
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[…] and plans are thin on the ground when it comes to politics, or completely absent in the case of the scarily politically fanatical. Republican supporters claiming to be proud racists? What is this? The 19th century? Even visiting […]
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 9:45 pm

Cool! Now we’re “scarily politically fanatical!”

S’funny, I don’t remember staging protest marches or creating havoc and causing mayhem at the DNC.

SCARILY POLITICALLY FANATICAL FAIL!!11!1!1!
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Comment by ifiwererunningforpresident on October 20, 2008 10:14 pm

Woah…relax and take a deep breath.

I’m not trying to offend you, I just think your wrongly conflating one minor news story with major social trends out there.

It just *seems* like that your major schtick is plaintively defending values under “attack.” I understand there is an immense pleasure in defending views you feel are under duress, but you should learn to distinguish which are in true need.

You just can’t wave your hand and say poof, racism doesn’t exist in America. Yes the news story you identify is gloriously stupid, but that doesn’t mean all accusations of racism are stupid. Nor does it mean that all people opposed to Obama are racists. Nor does it even insinuate such an outrageous claim.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 20, 2008 10:27 pm

Hahahaha. I’m plenty relaxed, ifiwererunningforpresident.

I just think your wrongly conflating one minor news story with major social trends out there.

I respectfully disagree. What I’m saying is the story of the 12-year old illustrates an accepted tactic of Democrats to chill speech. That’s all I’m saying.

And it’s far from one minor news story. It has happened hundreds of times and continues to happen on a daily basis. From today’s Tampa Bay Online…

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/oct/18/owner-believes-lexus-vandalized-due-mccain-sticker/

You just can’t wave your hand and say poof, racism doesn’t exist in America.

I am not saying that racism doesn’t exist as I know it does. What I said was that (1) the fact the term “racist” has been largely redefined in the course of a few months means that there aren’t nearly as many true racists out there as there used to be and (2) many Democrats in the media and elsewhere believe that it is acceptable political discourse to equate support for the Republican ticket with racism.

If you are not among them, I applaud you.

Nor does it mean that all people opposed to Obama are racists.

Of course it doesn’t in the real world. But in the fantastic simpleton world of far too many Democrats, it means exactly that.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 10:31 pm

Yes the news story you identify is gloriously stupid, but that doesn’t mean all accusations of racism are stupid.

The point here is that the constant cries of “RACISM” to describe even the most innocuos disagreement with The One™ is diminishing the power of the term. Are there real racists? Of course. No one denies that. But simply having a different point of view does not a racist make, so Rosetta’s point is that if they are so ready to redefine that term to mean what it does not, why can’t he?

Nor does it mean that all people opposed to Obama are racists.

Try telling that to Obie’s supporters. It seems to be their “go-to” attack when someone disagrees with them on anything, especially the subjects in the original post.

I know, it was really, really subtle, but I think a lot of people go it. Not everyone, obviously, but a lot of people did.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 10:44 pm

I’m not trying to offend you, I just think your wrongly conflating one minor news story with major social trends out there.

And as someone who is “out there” everyday, I disagree.

It just *seems* like that your major schtick is plaintively defending values under “attack.” I understand there is an immense pleasure in defending views you feel are under duress, but you should learn to distinguish which are in true need.

I’m going to put aside my natural reaction to the condecension in that remark and ask you to elaborate on which values you think “are in true need”. You have floor. Make your case.

You just can’t wave your hand and say poof, racism doesn’t exist in America.

True, but having observed the detrimental effects that quotas and later, affirmative action, and now diversity have had on the cohesiveness and merit in the walks of life in which they have been or are still employed, I would propose that what we are doing has caused more harm than good.

Yes the news story you identify is gloriously stupid, but that doesn’t mean all accusations of racism are stupid.

It would be stupid, if it didn’t parrot the techniques of Obama and his surrogates, and seeing it in an institutional setting is a canary in a coal mine. Each instance of “real racism” you can point to in this day and age, I can point to an incident like this, and the real danger is that when this starts happening, it diminishes the impact of “real racism”.

Nor does it mean that all people opposed to Obama are racists. Nor does it even insinuate such an outrageous claim.

No it doesn’t, but when a major candidate for President can stand in from of crowds and talk about people who aren’t voting for him and say things like “He doesn’t look like the other presidents on the dollar bill” or ” he’s got a funny sounding name” or “by the way, did you know he’s black”, the insinuation is made, at the top, and considered by the followers and surrogates to be legitimate. And then we get fun incidents like the one at issue. Put another way, we didn’t invoke race. He did.
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Comment by ifiwererunningforpresident on October 20, 2008 10:47 pm

Oh that story about the Tampa Bay thing, I noticed something you all might have missed:

“…Clearwater police and Armstrong said someone etched obscenities and “KKK” into the paint…”

Pretty sure those were there PRIOR to the incident. Make sense now?

(Yes I’m joking)
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Comment by wiserbud on October 20, 2008 10:54 pm

I don’t think we missed that, IIWRFP. I think that would actually be the vandalism that was being discussed.

Again, subtle, I know, but still……
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Comment by ifiwererunningforpresident on October 20, 2008 11:09 pm

I’ll address your last point first.

You mention that he invoked race first. This must be true. Obama’s mere success as the first minority to clinch a major party nomination immediately brought race to the forefront of this election (like it or not).

And for every stupid instance like the aforementioned news article, we also get something more genuinely discriminatory. We get accusations that he’s a secret Muslim (equating Muslim with “bad/evil”). Fixation on the middle name Hussein.

(I know Muslim != race, but people tend to conflate Islam and people of Middle Eastern descent, so for convenience I’ll do the same. Worse still, people always use the word racist in place of discriminatory)

These provocations play to people’s fear and lack of familiarity with the Mid. East.

No one is denying that the racist card can be overplayed, but you can’t claim its not a discussion worth having (specifically in regards to Obama’s candidacy)

The main crux between Rosetta’s supporters and me is that I don’t see the “racist” thing (as it pertains to Obama and this election) as rampant as you do. If based on our individual experiences, I haven’t seen it much at all. Too bad there’s no data on it.

PS: How did you do that quote thingy?
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 11:42 pm

shift comma () insert the quote repeat with a “/”
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 20, 2008 11:43 pm

sorry

quote

without the spaces
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 11:55 pm

I think you can also do it like this, lesser than sign then write the word blockquote and then the greater than sign, then to close the quote you do the same thing only put forward slash blockquote

ifiwererunningforpresident, the only people I hear saying anything about Barack being a Muslim or saying his middle name HUSSEIN are actually people on the left and a few extreme loonies on the right.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 11:56 pm

testing

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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 11:56 pm

It worked!

SUPERSTAR!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by Bart on October 20, 2008 11:58 pm

yay blockquotes!
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Comment by pajama momma on October 20, 2008 11:59 pm

you know you’re proud bart
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 12:02 am

Just remember I did it first. Nya nya.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:07 am

Yeah, but yours was…………was…………well, it was just different ok?
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 12:10 am

Yeah, but yours was…………was…………well, it was just different ok?

PJM, are you calling me “Special”? I don’t qualify. WP doesn’t want me to be a full blown Hostage. Captive will be my lot in life, which wouldn’t be so bad, except here in the anteroom, Rich keeps trying to hand me pennies, and Bart keeps looking at my ass.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:15 am

I’ve seen photos of you in your helmet and drool cup.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 12:19 am

I’ve seen photos of you in your helmet and drool cup.

You’re just mad because Mom likes me best and gives me the blue one and you get the icky old green one nobody every cleans.
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Comment by geoff on October 21, 2008 12:29 am

Obama’s mere success as the first minority to clinch a major party nomination immediately brought race to the forefront of this election

Of course it did. It is, in fact, the only reason I even toyed with the idea of voting for him.

The main crux between Rosetta’s supporters and me is that I don’t see the “racist” thing (as it pertains to Obama and this election) as rampant as you do.

That’s because you don’t criticize Obama.
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Comment by hadenough on October 21, 2008 12:57 am

this same thing happened to my kid today…… he is 13 and got called a racist because he is for McCain. I told him “get used to it”. then I was glad to see this story and told him about it, and that the word “racist” has lost it’s meaning. We are considering reporting this to his principal, but don’t want him to get hasseled or on Obama’s list for the Re-education camps…….
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Comment by wickedpinto on October 21, 2008 4:38 am

Something I totaly left out when I asked university princess (she actually has a someone entertaining place)

So uh, Hey there university princess, ain’t seen you around here, Hows things, and well, you know, I’m just wondering, nothing wierd or anything like that but, uh. . .HEY! so, uh, what, well, it’s, well, you know, so whats your situation?
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Comment by totaltransformation on October 21, 2008 6:41 am

Add me to the list.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 6:49 am

@ Wiserbud:

Hehehe, yeah that was an angry moment when I wrote that. I stand by it though. Sarah Palin’s IQ is only 113, and it shows – that doesn’t mean that I think all Republicans are stupid, just her. Bizzarely enough for a liberal, I actually quite like John McCain. I think he’s a decent, honest guy (so far as I can tell), but he’s made some very bad decisions; picking Palin was really bad – there are elements of the press who were firmly rooting for GWB in 2004 who’ve switched in droves because of her. She’s just too polarising; the problem is that McCain is no spring chicken, and Palin just doesn’t have the experience to sit in the big chair if, God forbid, McCain was to pass away on the job. I didn’t mean for that to sound dirty. Even though Mrs McCain is totally hot. Anyway. Regardless of what you or I may think of Palin’s policies and character, she’s no POTUS. If she was running at the top of the ticket right now, she’d be destroyed, and rightly so. In four or eight years maybe, but not now.

I also think McCain’s campaign advisers have let him down badly. Thanks to their advice, he’s spent way too long insulting Obama slinging mud, and not enough time outlining his policies and plans to deal with the giant shit-storm the economy is now in. It doesn’t help him that he’s consistently voted for greater freedoms for Wall Street, or that he called himself “fundametally a [financial] deregulator” two days before it hit the fan in a big way for the economy and the big banks. He’s had to revise his policies which were, even he can see in hindsight, very wrong. Now, he’s damned whatever he says – if he sticks to his guns, the Obama camp are going to point at Freddy Mac and say “Oh, really?“, and if he changes his tack they can show footage of him doing policy u-turns at warp-speed. Frankly, he’s screwed.

I read a good summary of America’s choice on another blog: “With lube, or without?” Personally, I think Obama’s holding the KY.
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Comment by Johnny Peepers on October 21, 2008 8:22 am

Thank you for exhibiting the bravery necessary to reclaim the English language. For far too long, the far left has hijacked word, embedded ambiguities, and perverted the language with moral relativistic concepts. The New Right will reclaim, reshape, and indoctrinate to wash the brains of those corrupted by the leftist thought brigades.
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Comment by geoff on October 21, 2008 8:27 am

Palin just doesn’t have the experience to sit in the big chair

Everybody talks about how little experience she has – that was brilliant jujitsu by the left to avoid talking about her accomplishments. If she could get done in the White House what she got done in Alaska in her short span, I don’t think anybody would miss McCain one bit.

And of course, everything said about her lack of experience applies perfectly well to Obama, who has exactly zero managerial experience, and a miniscule amount of legislative experience at the federal level.

the Obama camp are going to point at Freddy Mac

They should be awfully careful, since McCain put forth proposals to increase oversight over Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in 2003 and 2005, and since big money recipient Obama helped block the latter attempt.
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Comment by geoff on October 21, 2008 8:28 am

If she was running at the top of the ticket right now, she’d be destroyed, and rightly so. In four or eight years maybe, but not now.

Which leaves Barack Obama as either the luckiest man alive, or the recipient of more than a little help from the press.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 8:41 am

@ Geoff: We could back-and-fore the experience/inexperience all day long, and I doubt we’d ever agree on it, so I’m going to save us the trouble and not argue about that one :) On financial regulation, I think the rest of McCain’s record is to revealing. He’s voted with Bush 90% of the time, and things have not ended well on that score!

On the press thing: Yes, it’s pretty easy to see that most of the press are pulling for Obama. By the same token, Fox News have done their usual campaign of destroy the liberal at all costs. It’s dissapointing on both counts, because it makes it very difficult to judge either candidate fairly. I don’t believe more than about 5% of the crap that’s being talked about either candidate, frankly. As an outside observer, I can tell you: The press are the most repugnant factor in US politics, on both sides of the political divide. It’s been bad for decades, but it was the Swiftboaters in 2004 that really sealed it: John Kerry, decorated for valour and holding multiple purple hearts, versus GWB – whose daddy got him into the Air National Guard so he wouldn’t have to go to Vietnam. And the Bush campaign made out that Kerry was the coward. The fact that any station agreed to air those ads is just disgusting.
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Comment by geoff on October 21, 2008 9:06 am

I doubt we’d ever agree on it, so I’m going to save us the trouble and not argue about that one

Fair enough. McCain sacrificed the experience argument when he selected Palin, just as Obama sacrificed the not-a-Washington-insider argument when he picked Biden. For either the McCain or Obama camps to harp on the experience issue is hypocritical, though slightly more so in the case of the Obamanians.

On financial regulation, I think the rest of McCain’s record is to revealing. He’s voted with Bush 90% of the time, and things have not ended well on that score!

Which financial regulation votes were those, exactly? The financial regulation vote most people point to was in 1999, and had wide bipartisan support. McCain has voted with his party some 90% of the time on all legislation, while Barack has voted with his more than 95% of the time.

And the Bush campaign made out that Kerry was the coward.

You certainly didn’t follow that very closely. The fact was, Kerry overplayed his hand by putting a ridiculous amount of emphasis on his brief military service (I’m John Kerry and I’m reporting for duty (cue ghey salute)? WTF?) – military service he had long ago rejected and reviled. The Bush campaign didn’t call him a coward, they called him an opportunistic, self-promoting, hypocritical liar. All of which is incontrovertibly true, though it may also be true for most other politicians.

And the press had nothing to do with the Swiftboaters.

The Dems could have walked away with the 2004 election if they had run a decent candidate. Hell, I would have considered voting for a decent Democratic candidate. Kerry was a joke.
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Comment by NR Davis on October 21, 2008 9:55 am

wiserbud wrote:

nd: Some of them are, and some Obama supporters, strangely, probably are too.

> “Strangely” Really, is that word you meant to use???

Absolutely.

> between 95% and 98% of blacks are voting for Obama. Is that not racist?

Of course it is. And I find that strange. One would think that being historically and, for some, currently oppressed, they would know the dangers of making a decision based on pigmentation. Personally, the only races in which I believe are the human race and speed contests (except for the iditarod and animal races, which I find cruel and unconscionable). I find the concept and the practice of racism quite strange and incomprehensible. Then again, the notion of calling brown-colored people “black” is strange in and of itself. It is a language I do not speak. People are people.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 10:01 am

Hey welcome back, custador!

I have a couple of short questions for you that I would sincerely like for you to answer.

In regards to my girlfriend, Sarah Palin, I didn’t realize that we were electing public officials based on IQ (adios Jack Murtha) but let me concede that, despite her accomplishments, Sarah Palin is of a slightly-above-average IQ. I have two questions:

(1) Who do you suspect had a significantly higher IQ, Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan?

(2) Who was the far superior President, Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan?

Lastly, and I am most interested in your response to this, what are the three greatest accomplishments that Obama has under his belt that leads you to believe he will make a great President?
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 10:01 am

Then again, the notion of calling brown-colored people “black” is strange in and of itself.

hah, yeah my kids didn’t get that either. But why are they called black? They’re skin is brown, not black.

But that’s not near as bad as yellow for Asian or red for Indian. WTF?
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 10:02 am

Personally, the only races in which I believe are the human race and speed contests

Well put, NR Davis.
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Comment by bmac on October 21, 2008 10:11 am

I would argue Palin has much more expreience than Obama. The only experience I can glean that O actually has, is campaigning. He is the very definition of an empty suit. Has he even been to the Capital building?
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 10:12 am

Anthropologists however would disagree with both NR and rosetta as there’s actually
5 races, Caucasoid race, Congoid race, Capoid race, Mongoloid race, Australoid race
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 10:14 am

My thoughts on Palin are that she was not a bad pick because Republicans as a whole were less than thrilled with McCain’s Maverickyness.

I have no idea how he became our pick because I certainly didn’t vote for him.

Palin has actually rallied the base and gotten McCain votes from people who were otherwise willing to sit out the election.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 21, 2008 10:14 am

Hey, I recognize Johnny Peepers’ avatar. I think he’s been the subject of a post on this blog.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 10:41 am

Hmmm… Kinda tough without thinking time, but okay:

One and two, Jimmy Carter on both counts. I think a good leader is one who doesn’t grab headlines, because he’s too busy doing his job! You could accuse him of being bland and not being the most outstanding and charismatic president in history, but to me that’s okay; the man did good things – for a start, he halved American dependence on foreign oil. That’s pretty significant, all on its own. He signed God knows how many peace deals, including arbitrating the first (only?) lasting peace deal in the Middle East between Israel and Egypt. He also kept the economy steady – which is an important factor when you consider the Raeganomics that followed him. Raegan just wanted massive growth. He disregarded the fundamental rule that a bust has to follow a boom, and he boomed away just as fast as he could. Remember that bust? I do. It was shit. Also, I’m a Brit, and I’m still pissed at him because he refused to provide logistical support to the UK armed forces when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands and we had to send a task force to go get them back (slight sideline: Something over 200 Argentinian Mirage jets lost . Two British Sea Harriers lost. And that’s because they collided in thick fog. We kicked arse). Anyway, he also did the usual Republican thing: Have a war. Why do you guys need to do that? Seriously? Okay, it was only Granada, but still. He was also one of those strange people who seemed to label all of his enemies “communist” and assume that was enough to settle the argument.

I’m going to have to come back and answer question three later, my boss is giving me evils!
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Comment by bmac on October 21, 2008 10:57 am

He also kept the economy steady – which is an important factor when you consider the Raeganomics that followed him.

How old are you custador? Carter was an economical disaster. I remember hour long gas lines, record unemployment, and lest you forget, things were so bad, we had a “Misery Index.”

He disregarded the fundamental rule that a bust has to follow a boom, and he boomed away just as fast as he could. Remember that bust? I do. It was shit

What bust was that? It certainly can’t compare with the catasrophic Carter years.

I’ll let someone else take on the “Peace Deals.”
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 11:17 am

One and two, Jimmy Carter on both counts.

Hahahahaha!!! I like you, custador, but saying that Carter was a better President than Reagan doesn’t even pass the laugh test. Surely you jest.

Almost all historians in this country, the vast majority of whom are liberal, have begrudgingly conceded that Reagan was the superior President lest the rest of their work not be taken seriously.

That you are a Brit may explain your error. In this country, we could have a debate about whether Clinton or Reagan was the better President…maybe. But the Carter-Reagan debate has long been settled.

Even all but the most extreme Democrats will concede that Carter’s was a failed Presidency. He was thrown out on his peanut farming ass after one term because the country wouldn’t have been able to endure two.

You need only look at the economy under both men to draw that conclusion. And then there was Carter’s effeminate and ineffectual response to the Iranian hostage crisis. Those two things alone overwhelm whatever little positive Carter may have achieved.

I understand that in the age of Palin (dumb) and Obama (smart), that it’s tough to admit that Carter (smart) was a much poorer President than Reagan (dumb) but that’s the truth of the matter.

Some history is still debatable and subject to opinion. That history has left the realm of opinion and entered the books as fact.

And I hope you eventually answer my question about the three accomplishments of Obama that show you that he will be a great President. I’m VERY anxious to learn what those three are.

Thanks custador!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 11:24 am

custador,
I may be wrong, but I recall Reagan offering assistance, and being politely declined.
After a quick Wikipedia search it seems we offered you guys a aircraft carrier! As well as the latest sidewinders and the latest intel.

In early May, Casper Weinberger offered the use of an American aircraft carrier.[23] This seemingly extremely generous offer was seen by some as vital: it was noted by Woodward that the loss of Invincible would have been a severe setback, but the loss of Hermes would have meant an end to the whole operation. Weinberger admits [24] that there would have been many problems if a request had ever been made; not least, it would have meant U.S. personnel becoming directly involved in the conflict, as training British forces to crew the vessel would have taken years.

Both Weinberger and Reagan were later awarded the British honour of Knight Commander of the British Empire (KBE). American critics of the U.S. role claimed that, by failing to side with Argentina, the U.S. violated its own Monroe Doctrine.

In September 2001, the President of Mexico Vicente Fox cited the conflict as proof of the failure of the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance since the treaty provides for mutual defence. However, in this conflict, Argentina was the aggressor.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 11:27 am

I thought I put that in block quote but I suck at HTML
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 11:34 am

Carter was good for the economy? Sorry, no sale, custador. I was a kid growing up at ground zero of the American Auto Industry at the time. It never recovered from the catastropic savaging it received at the hands of Carter’s Brilliant Economic Guidance. If fact, things didn’t even start to level off in that part of the country until Regan’s second term. You say you’re a brit, and I actually believe that given the conversations I have had with other brits about American Politics. Somewhere, you guys seem to get some really bad information. The good news is that if you keep talking to those of us who actually live here, some of your perceptions might get straightened out.
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 21, 2008 11:37 am

The good news is that if you keep talking to those of us who actually live here, some of your perceptions might get straightened out.

Dunno BiW, I talked to more than a few Aussies who figured Americans were just too stupid to 1. understand their own politics 2. bother electing a decent president. Not sure the Brits are as bad :shrug:
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 11:43 am

The offer of an aircraft carrier is an interesting point. Thatcher had moth-balled the entire British carrier fleet at that point prior to decommisioning them. Because of this, the Fleet Air Arm were all flying Sea Harriers, which were VTOL capable, and could launch from (I think Type 42) Destroyers, so it was a moot point. The offer was made to us in the full knowledge that we’d say no because it was no use to us. Now, if a few Naval Aviators and some Tomcats had been offered along with the carrier, I think the answer would have been very different :) In the end, after a bit of a wingding, Thatcher demanded (and got) a concesion from Raegan to provide medical support only.
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Comment by TG on October 21, 2008 11:59 am

“He also kept the economy steady – which is an important factor when you consider the Raeganomics that followed him”

War in “Granada” – Republican warmongering
War in the “Falklands” -The US and “Raegan” didn’t help enough

The cleverly mispelled words, the inversion of the well known facts -I’m suspicious can anyone truly be this obtuse?

Custardo is an obvious plant to keep this thread alive. ROSETTA THE FASCIST!!!
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Comment by eddiebear on October 21, 2008 12:02 pm

^that Rove is a cunning bastard
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 12:04 pm

Actually, the Flaklands are officialy labelled a “conflict”, not a war. Seriously :)

Also, there is a big difference: A British colony got invaded. We went and un-invaded it. It wasn’t like we were the agressor!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 12:06 pm

Custador,
Here is a interesting pdf of a roundtable discussion about the faulklands war
I am unable to copy and paste directly from it, but I think it will change your mind about our or rather Reagan not helping
http://webstorage3.mcpa.virginia.edu/poh/falklands/transcripts/falklands_2003_0515.pdf
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 12:13 pm

I shall read, but unfortunately Government Secure Intranet (I be a civil servant) is having a strop at me for trying to open that PDF, so it’ll have to wait until I get home!
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Comment by Ann on October 21, 2008 12:16 pm

Ahem *straightens notecards on the podium* Hi. My name is LeAnn, and I’m a lurker. I lurk a lot. I like to lurk. I’m a lurker liker. I’m a lurkeraholic. I’ve completed “12 steps to Unlurking”, course 12934 at the local YWCA, and would now like to participate.

*fidgets nervously while IB regulars snicker*

Anywhooooos, I love this blog. You guys are nuts. Truly, seriously, crazy- cousin- in- the-corner nuts. We should all be as lucky as you are. I “know’ a lot of you from Ace’s, and I think it’s great that you’ve all drifted over into a crazylicious world of your own. Hope you can keep this blog like it is, and not turn into another sloggin’-through-mud kinda blog that becomes a chore to read.

Ok,,just wanted to say hello and…

“Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 20, 2008 1:56 pm

I’m on the list, retard! 12 January.”

Great day for a birthday. Same day as my daughter, my grand daughter, my late fiance’s , my brother-in-law’s, my late aunt and my baby nephew’s. yes, yes, I know that’s wierd having six birthdays on the same day in one family.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:21 pm

Hi Ann!!! Wanna bunk with me?
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 12:24 pm

Hi LeAnn, de lurk more often.
We won’t make fun of you, honest!
wellmaybenottoomuchfunatfirst.
But then again the 6 birthday thing…..
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 12:30 pm

*puts pants on*
*gives Ann a round applause*

We welcome your coming out. Please comment more and lurk less.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 12:32 pm

Ann,

a/s/l?

Seriously, welcome, child, to the dark side. Watch where you step, as we haven’t quite housetrained bmac yet, but he’s getting better. (BMAC, STOP HUMPING THE NICE LADY’S LEG!!)

And over here is where we keep the food posts… PJ! Stop drooling! You’re getting your children all wet!

And be sure to stop by on Fridays when our true nature is exposed by the one TRUE Hostage, as s/he once again assaults our senses with another of his monstrosities that he lieks to call his BBF gal. (Rosetta! Stop humping PJM’s leg!)
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 21, 2008 12:35 pm

I’m going to guess that Ann is going to be much more interested in PJM’s Hunks post. Whenever it gets posted ;)
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 12:40 pm

There are no Hunks posts. Only Hunks Hostages.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:42 pm

Step aside fellas, Ann is all mine!!!
:::drooling::::
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Comment by bmac on October 21, 2008 12:43 pm

*Furiously humping Ann’s leg*

*Looks at Wiserbud, tilts head*

*Goes back to furiously humping Ann’s leg*
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 21, 2008 12:44 pm

Only Hunks Hostages.
Hahahahaha!

There’ll be a hunks post, just wait and see.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 12:44 pm

Custardboi –

Also, I’m a Brit, and I’m still pissed at him because he refused to provide logistical support to the UK armed forces when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands

Funny, but I was on the tarmac at RAF Mildenhall during the Falklands conflict and spent 12 hours a day, seven days a week, driving a forklift loading RAF C-130s with American AIM-9 Sidewinders and other munitions, freshly removed from C-141s out of McGuire AFB. You are incredibly ill-informed.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:44 pm

Howdy ann. There WILL be a hunks post and it will be on like, oh I dunno, Wednesday or Thursday. I got enough chicks here now to back me up on this.

Pattyann gets all bitter because I don’t pick her submissions from the Depends commercials on youtube.

I love you PA. Don’t kill me

*runs and hides under numerous turtle shells scattered about my backyard
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:45 pm

Dang, MCPO…your like all up in his grill and stuff! I like it!
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 21, 2008 12:46 pm

You are incredibly ill-informed.

Aww MCPO, that was so nice. I would have gone w/ a fucking nincompoop.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:46 pm

it’s pretty sexy when MCPO gets all militaryish isn’t it april?
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:46 pm

:::::backing up PJ:::::::
Hunky Posts!! Hunky Posts!!!! Hunky Posts!!!
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Comment by Ann on October 21, 2008 12:46 pm

Wow, thanks for the welcome! I wasn’t sure how to approach crazy,,er, I mean, no I meant crazy people. I do SOOOOOOOO appreciate you putting your pants on Rosetta. Can’t. Possibly. Express. That. Enough. hehe….

I’ve brought a rolled up newspaper to keep my shins clean, so no worries. Even on BBF day – which I read..not that I’m interested in big boobs, just love the hilarity that insues when the hostages trip over each other to be first in line at the boobie extravaganza.

Now, where is that Hunks post?
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 12:47 pm

Give him another day. After that, it “all fair” with Rosetta’s new boyfriend.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:48 pm

whatchu talkin bout?

crazy don’t know it’s crazy

hunks post is coming, but I’m getting over being sick and the wee one spent the night and this morning vomitting with a fever and now I expect the other three to get ill as well. Fun never ends at casa pajama
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:48 pm

Well shoot, Ann, you had me until ,”not that I’m interested in big boobs”.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:49 pm

awwww, look at mcpo with his chest all puffed out.

that’s sweet
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:49 pm

you got big dirty pillows april?
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Comment by Ann on October 21, 2008 12:50 pm

Why did I get an avatar that looks like someone trying to rid themselves of constipation?
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:54 pm

PJ, not anymore

Ann, cuz you need to poop?
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 12:55 pm

Why did I get an avatar that looks like someone trying to rid themselves of constipation?

That’s more appropriate here than you might think.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 12:57 pm

Funny, but I was on the tarmac at RAF Mildenhall during the Falklands conflict and spent 12 hours a day, seven days a week, driving a forklift loading RAF C-130s with American AIM-9 Sidewinders and other munitions, freshly removed from C-141s out of McGuire AFB. You are incredibly ill-informed.

*cough*
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 12:58 pm

driving a forklift loading RAF C-130s with American AIM-9 Sidewinders and other munitions, freshly removed from C-141s out of McGuire AFB.

MCPO, no joke, I think my dad was one of the people who was supplying you with that stuff. He worked as a loadmaster on C-130s and -131s, (later on C5s out of Stewart AFB) which brought supplies to Nicaragua during 1989 invasion. And I know he was stationed at McGuire at some point, just not sure when.

He’s dead now, so I’ can’t ask him.
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Comment by Ann on October 21, 2008 12:58 pm

“Step aside fellas, Ann is all mine!!!
:::drooling:::”

“Well shoot, Ann, you had me until ,”not that I’m interested in big boobs”.”

I’m so confused…….you have big boobs? I should be jealous?
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 21, 2008 12:59 pm

I really hate to go there, but PJ started it.

Obama’s running scared so goes to his racist white grandmother’s sick bedside.

PJ has the flu so she hides behind that when she attacks me with her little John Kerry depends joke.

Obama=PJ=Kerry
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 12:59 pm

Big boobs, small boobs, they’re all good.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 12:59 pm

yes and maybe
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 12:59 pm

He’s dead now, so I’ can’t ask him

you just love to do that don’t you?

I can just picture you giggling at how awkward that makes everyone feel
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 1:00 pm

or I could be wrong
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 1:00 pm

hahahaha, pattyann, you love to go there and you know it
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 1:02 pm

I think PA is on to something……

Btw, PJ, did you get me sick?
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 1:05 pm

Obama’s running scared so goes to his racist white grandmother’s sick bedside.

Or he could be figuring out if he needs to ‘disappear’ his legal team.

http://taxes-stupidity-and-death.blogspot.com/2008/10/bergs-press-release-obama-and-dnc-have.html
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Comment by Ann on October 21, 2008 1:05 pm

“yes and maybe”

hah! well, for the record, I have plenty of my own. Not “sohos” plenty, but plenty.
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Comment by aprilwine on October 21, 2008 1:06 pm

I don’t think anyone has “Soho’s” plenty. LOL
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 21, 2008 1:07 pm

LeAnn! It’s okay to be LeAnn here. The Hostages don’t frown on women who use two names here for their first names. *glares at wiserbud
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Comment by Ann on October 21, 2008 1:16 pm

I just can’t imagine someone *glares at wiserbud* making fun of your name. I mean serioulsy, wiserbud? what is that, some take off of a beer name or something?

wait,,,,,,,,what?

oh

nevermiand…..
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 1:32 pm

How did this thread turn into a quilting bee estrogen fest?

*hides to see if a bra and panties tickle fight breaks out*
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 1:43 pm

LeAnn, don’t worry about wiserbud. He’s harmless. wiser on the other hand….
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 1:56 pm

I stand corrected on the US support in the Falklands after reading the huge PDF file posted earlier. Mia culpa.
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Comment by Muslihoon on October 21, 2008 2:01 pm

That should be: “Mea culpa.”

Mia is a girl’s name.

Pleased to meet you, custador.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 2:15 pm

Hello haters.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 2:15 pm

I stand corrected on the US support in the Falklands after reading the huge PDF file posted earlier. Mia culpa.

*blink

*blink blink

*blink

I am stunned.

You really are a unique specimen, cuspidor. Good on ya, mate.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 2:17 pm

Good on ya, mate

that’s australian. he’s like all bollocks and bangers and nash and arse and stuff
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 2:20 pm

‘e’s a good bloke. Hehehe
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 2:21 pm

PJM – It’s “bangers and mash”, “bubble and squeak” and kippers.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 2:22 pm

compos has a young Laotian pool boy.

Just sayin’
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 2:24 pm

it tastes nasty whatever it is
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 2:24 pm

compos has a young Laotian pool boy.

Is that to keep his Thai, tranny pool-boy company??
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 2:25 pm

Kippers? Good on toast. Heck of a breakfast.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 2:26 pm

PJM – Have you eaten in Britain? If not, you haven’t lived. Ploughman’s Lunch or Steak and kidney pie with a pint of good beer. . . YUM-MY!!
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 2:28 pm

Oh, and I forgot BMAC’s favorite; Spotted Dick!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 2:29 pm

Sorry I forgot to mention that it was 90 some pages long. I skimmed it and was impressed with cap but kirkpatric also said that cap was doing what RR wanted while RR was still saying give diplomacy a chance
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 2:31 pm

We used to have roast beef and yorkshire pudding for sunday dinner growing up.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 2:37 pm

kirkpatric also said that cap was doing what RR wanted while RR was still saying give diplomacy a chance

Vmax, diplomacy is the art of saying “Nice Doggie” until you can find a big rock.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 2:38 pm

steak and kidney pie…the most repulsive tasting food I have ever tasted in my life.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 2:42 pm

Is that to keep his Thai, tranny pool-boy company??

El Kabong and Baba Looey are getting along swimmingly.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 2:46 pm

Comment from our friend Matt at TQP earlier today:

Eh, these people are just close minded, right wing nut jobs. Pay no attention.

TQP’s response to Matt:

I’ve got a response set up for tomorrow.

Heh heh heh.

*polishes war hammer, medievel mace*

*sharpens knives, swords, machetes, pikes, battle axes and spears*

*touches self inappropriately*
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 3:00 pm

You know, when I read stuff like that Rosetta, I am reminded of Ronaldus Maximus:
“It isn’t that Liberals are stupid, they just know so much that isn’t true.”
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:00 pm

I still owe Rosetta a response, but I’m eating at the mo, so give me half an hour.

PS, Wiserbud: Try steak and ale pie, mate. Mmmmmm, good.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:05 pm

custador – I was pleased to live in your lovely country for 5 years. I loved my time there and didn’t mind the elastic shortage one bit.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 3:11 pm

PS, Wiserbud: Try steak and ale pie, mate. Mmmmmm, good.

That does sounds much better. I’ll need to work on a finding a recipe….

My father-in-law LOVES S&K pie. Honestly, just the smell of it grosses me out.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:14 pm

When I was humping cargo in the winter there was nothing better than S&K and a beer. I’m surprised wiserbud has such an unsophisticated palate. I guess if it’s not baked with crumbled potato chips on top. . .
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 3:16 pm

“It isn’t that Liberals are stupid, they just know so much that isn’t true.”

Hahahaha. For a dumb guy, that Reagan was pretty perceptive.

I still owe Rosetta a response, but I’m eating at the mo, so give me half an hour.

Hey custardo!!! No fair Googling for a half hour to try and find 3 Obama accomplishments that would lead you to believe he would make a great President!!!!

That would take you a lot longer than half an hour.
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 3:17 pm

TQP’s response to Matt:

I’ve got a response set up for tomorrow.

After reading some of TQP’s rather bland and painfully unfunny screeds, I would actually be impressed if we get something from her as well-thought-out and rational as “I’m rubber and you’re glue..”

Probably the best we can hope for, however, will be some poorly constructed and confusingly convoluted insults, followed by some completely disjointed and totally illogical ramblings, followed by the always witty “Nyah Nyah Nyah, yer teh stoopid!”
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:18 pm

Okey dokey. Obama. He taught constitutional law at U of C Law School, having himself studied at Columbia and Harvard Law. Tough enough, and definitely some good shit for a future president to have done – know the constitution, as opposed to describing it as “just a God-damned piece of paper” and proceeding to stomp all over it – ahem. By the way, did you know that he sponsored one of John McCain’s bills, the Secure America bill? He also co-wrote a bill with John McCain which made federal spending more transparent. Whoda thunkit, hey? He’s one of only (I think) 5 black candidates to ever be elected to the US senate; let’s also not discount the incredible amount of money he’s raised for his campaign from ordinary people. Okay, this is a pretty short list so far, but let’s be honest: Had Bush really achieved more when he ran?
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 21, 2008 3:23 pm

“baked with crumbled potato chips on top”

tuna.casserole.yuck.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:27 pm

custador – I complimented your country and get no love? How rude! *stomps off*
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:28 pm

Rewind: You can back stuff with crumbled potato chips on top?! And you criticise British food? Holy Jesus, don’t ever visit France. In Paris they still crucify people for stuff like that, and they eat bits of frogs over there.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 21, 2008 3:30 pm

Had Bush really achieved more when he ran?

Well off the top of my head he had successfully governed the 2nd largest state in the union for 5 years.

Which I know pales in comparison to attaching your name to a bill but still.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:32 pm

I thought the Texas was run by the lieutenant governor, not the governor himself?

Sorry MCPO: On behalf of Her Britannic Majesty Queen Eliabeth The Second and All Of Her Subjects, I thank you for those kind words :D
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 3:32 pm

Not to mention ran a profitable baseball team
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:33 pm

You can back stuff with crumbled potato chips on top?!

No but you can “BAKE” it! ;-) It’s a culinary peculiarity of the Midwest
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:34 pm

I miss the Queen Mum!
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:35 pm

Apologies, my sydlexia is showing :(
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:36 pm

Lol – The Queen Mother was awesome. One hundred years old, pissed on gin at all times and said whatever she liked, whenever she liked, because she didn’t give a fuck. Legend.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 3:39 pm

Let’s be honest with custador, there’s not a huge load of McCain love here. Most of us just happen to think he’s the lesser of two evils. By far the lesser, but he’s still Stinky McStinkerson.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 3:41 pm

He taught constitutional law at U of C Law School, having himself studied at Columbia and Harvard Law. Tough enough, and definitely some good shit for a future president to have done – know the constitution, as opposed to describing it as “just a God-damned piece of paper” and proceeding to stomp all over it – ahem.

What a curious point to make, especially when bolstered by an assertion that has no obvious proof to back it at this time. As a product of a 2 law schools myself, and having read articles on the Constitution and constitutional law by many Ivy League professors and prominent former students, I have to respectfully disagree. Many law professors teaching and writing about Constitional Law are firmly mired in the “Constitution is a Living Document” misapprehension. Obama’s not published any law review articles that anyone has been able to find, despite having been on the law review at Harvard, and oddly enough, no one seems to have published any of his lectures, which if they were indicative of his brilliance, I am quite confident the press would have saturated the media with, along with sickening, almost coma inducing disections to explain to the poor, illiterate masses how utterly and incomparably brilliant “The ONE” is. As for the difficulty regarding Harvard law, I know several attorneys, including one of my former professors who assure me that the hardest part is getting in. I don’t suppose you’d like to detail for me which part of the Constitution, exactly, has been “stomped all over”?, would you, because I keep asking liberals who say this to me to provide me with real examples, and I have never received an answer. Regarding your concern about it being violated as just a piece of paper, coming from the subject of a nation with no written constitution, just might give me iron poisoning.

By the way, did you know that he sponsored one of John McCain’s bills, the Secure America bill? He also co-wrote a bill with John McCain which made federal spending more transparent.

Do you know how easy it is to get a sponsorship credit or a co-writing credit on a bill?

let’s also not discount the incredible amount of money he’s raised for his campaign from ordinary people.

This doesn’t really help him, as it demonstrates his knack for throwing anyone or anything under the bus when he finds it politically expedient. You see, he made this promise to only stick with the public financing for his campaign, but at some point, the lure of the money became overpowering for him, and *bump bump*, the promise when under the bus, along with hsi freinds and associates. One more reason not to trust him. If he has already been caught in several stupid lies, what happens when the job gets tough?

Had Bush really achieved more when he ran?

*ding ding* Congratulations. You win “Stupidass Remark of the Day” status with this gem.
You mean like run an entire state, and all that it entails, like, making tough decisions, and actually being an executive?

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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 3:42 pm

custador,
What part of GB are you from?
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 21, 2008 3:42 pm

Bicuspid, I believe the Queen Mother was the original Hostage. We all strive to adhere to her standards.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 3:46 pm

Hugh Hewitt is a con law prof and a Harvard grad. Should we elect him?
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 3:47 pm

oh I would love that b-rad
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 3:48 pm

I’ll tell him when I see him, PJ, but be advised, he does a lot of environmental law, so he probably takes a dim view of you killing turtles.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 3:49 pm

I will gladly throw my 2 year old under the bus for him.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 3:51 pm

Vmaximus: I was born in Aylesbury (near London) but now live in Cardiff.

Blackiswhite: See my early question regarding Texas governor versus Lieutenant Governor.

PattyAnn: The Queen Mum is probably also the only person in recorded history to break both hips and then try to walk it off :)
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:52 pm

“The Murder of Blue Turtles” – wasn’t that a solo album by Gordon Sumner??


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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 3:54 pm

I mean that figuratively
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 3:55 pm

that’s a very good album mcpo

Hey, my sister lives in Cardiff too!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 3:55 pm

My grandfather was from Sussix and my other grandfather is from Clydebank
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 3:56 pm

Blackiswhite: See my early question regarding Texas governor versus Lieutenant Governor.

Answer my question about the “Stomped Constitution”. Really. Bring real world concrete examples or withdraw the statement. We have had to endure this stupid unsubstantiated meme for 7 years and I am sick to death of it. I have never seen any other claim get so much mileage with so little to back it up, and it has been used to justify some of the worst treason committed by an institution in my lifetime. (Yes, I’m looking at you, Pinchy Solzberger.)
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 3:58 pm

My grandfather was IRA and my grandmother was shot by the Black & Tans while sitting on her porch in Derry, Northern Ireland. I, unlike some, was able to look past my prejudice and sample many an English maiden.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 3:58 pm

I could swing a dead cat in any elected body and hit someone with more achievements than Obama, with the exception of the fundraising. But, fundraising is hardly a good metric to judge someone by. Particularly since Obama has dedicated his entire professional career to SPENDING OTHER PEOPLES MONEY!
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 4:02 pm

B-rad – You take that back!!! Why, Obama’s illegal contributions from Palestine, Syria, China & Russia are UNPRECEDENTED!! That should count for something, shouldn’t it?
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 4:02 pm

Important Hostage Blog Maintenance news:

This will now be the only thread on the blog. The rest of the threads on this site are being shut down and removed.

Enjoy the New Hostages!
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:03 pm

@ Blackiswhite: No fair, I asked first! Whether or not Bush said those words, isn’t Habeus Corpus in the US constitution? How about free expression? Or the right to a trial by jury of your peers? Right to privacy? Bush has weakened all of them, and removed them altogether for some. Incidentally, I should correct you on an earlier point: The UK is a constitutional monarchy, it’s just that our “constitution” is spread over hundreds of documents of law rather than just one. So Nyer.

@ Vmaximus: Sussex is nice. Proper posh :) Clydebank… That’s too far North for me, they’re all a bit strange up there. I think it’s the thin air.

@ Pajama Mama: What part of Cardiff? I live in Gabalfa/Heath on Whitchurch Road.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 4:05 pm

Well, Cardiff by the Sea in California. You’re not supposed to actually pay attention to what I say. ;)
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 4:06 pm

Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:03 pm

@ MCPO Airdale: Fuck off you Irish scum!
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:09 pm

@ MCPO Airdale:

I really, really hate trying to explain Northern Ireland to people who aren’t Brit or Irish. It all kind of breaks down for me when they inevitably ask: “Why don’t you just give it back?” That’s usually the point I bang my head against the nearest wall repeatedly. On the other side of that though: What a great example it is now of the progress you can make in a shitty situation just by talking! No more guns or bombs, and a solution everybody can live with. Good juju.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:10 pm

lol – I like Irish people! Dublin is a kick-arse night out, too :)
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:12 pm

@ Pajama Mama: I’ll swap Cardiff Bay in the Bristol Channel for the Pacific Ocean any old day of the week, just tell me when!
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 4:12 pm

The grandfather from Clydbank is still alive and will be 105 on Christmas Eve, he worked in a shipyard there in the teens. I will tell him I have it on good authority that it is posh there now.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:13 pm

Incidently, habeus corpus is a privelege, not a right. But where has the freedom of expression been weakened? If anything, we have more now than at any time in our history. Hell, you can publish top secret information in a newspaper with no fear of prosecution.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:14 pm

Clydebank isn’t posh! It got decimated by Maggies Thatcher closing down all the shipyards, unfortunately. Think of Detroit without car manufacturing, and you get the idea. Only without guns.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 4:14 pm

custador – I’ve still have family over there. The most unreasonable, hard-headed, stubborn assholes you will ever meet! They do buy drinks, so they’ve got that going for them! :-D
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 4:17 pm

ok vmaximus, stick out your tongue and hold out of your mouth with your fingers and say, “My grandpa works in the shipyard”.

Oh man I’m hilarious. I crack myself up.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:18 pm

I love Ireland; they have the highest proportion of alcoholics in the world and at the same time they also have the highest proportion of teetotalers. How good is that? Plus it’s a beautiful country, plus the people are some of the friendliest you could hope to meet, plus they drink like fishes. There’s no downside!
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 4:18 pm

@ Pajama Mama: What part of Cardiff? I live in Gabalfa/Heath on Whitchurch Road.

Yeah, my ancestors on my Dad’s side were Welsh. The Crown “invited” them to leave.

Who, exactly, was Habeus Corpus suspended or done away for? Are you familar with the history of Habus Corpus in this nation in times of war?

Trial by a jury of my peers? When was that denied to us?

Privacy? Where has this occurred? I keep hearing the talking points, but not a supporting fact.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 4:18 pm

Wiser,
I think we are trying to break 1000 comments on a thread here or something. Maybe we will get to KevlarChick territory.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 4:20 pm

*yawn

Another article saying the use of the word “socialist” is another code word for black.

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2493

stolen from ace’s and brought here for custador’s benefit
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:21 pm

@ Blackiswhite:

Guantanamo Bay. There you are guilty until proven innocent, it seems. The same place where you’re not given a jury trial, despite the Supreme Court ruling that the “military tribunals” have no basis in law. And THE PATRIOT ACT!!! Are you sure you studied law?!
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:24 pm

@ Pajama Momma: lol – that’s on the “speculative” side of journalism, isn’t it? That’s why I think they should just ban editorials; they publish somebody’s (often outrageous) opinion, and pretend it’s news. I’m Liberal, but I’m not an idiot. Well, not enough to fall for the “socialism is teh black!” crap, anyway.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:25 pm

Also, Blackiswhite: You still didn’t answer my question about Texas governors.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:26 pm

Guantanamo bay isn’t the US. Nor are the detainees there prisoners. They are DETAINEES. You are aware that constitutional rights for foreign nationals (ie, non-US Citizens) ends at the waters edge?
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Comment by wiserbud on October 21, 2008 4:27 pm

That’s why I think they should just ban editorials;

How…..progressive…… of you.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 4:29 pm

My grandfather was from Sussix and my other grandfather is from Clydebank

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:29 pm

I’m also aware that US bases overseas are considered to be US soil and therefore under US law, xbradtc. Too many of the Guantanamo detainees have come back to Britain five years later having been found innocent of every charge against them for me to ever feel comfortable about that place.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 4:31 pm

Guantanamo Bay. There you are guilty until proven innocent, it seems. The same place where you’re not given a jury trial, despite the Supreme Court ruling that the “military tribunals” have no basis in law. And THE PATRIOT ACT!!! Are you sure you studied law?!

Guantanamo Bay…the place we send enemy combattants. Nationals of OTHER countries who we picked up in other countries, out of uniform, shooting at our people. As much as the Democrats keep trying to give all the benefits of citizenship to citizens of other nations, they don’t get them, except under very limited circumstances, and then not all of said benefits. I hate to break it to you, sparky, but the Supreme Court has been wrong in times of war before, and the executive has acted accordingly. I’m thinking specifically of a case, the citation I do not have memorized, regarding Habeus Corpus in the closing days of the Civil War. The Supreme Court ruled then that the person, a reporter as I recall, had to be released. The military tribunal (where have I heard that before?) disobeyed and held the man until after the war was over. At least then, the court’s ruling had some grounding in reality, since the guy was, you know, a CITIZEN.

The Patriot Act…yes, the battle cry of the perpetual malcontents. So what, exactly, in the Patriot Act, the same Patriot Act passed by Congress I might add, do you believe violates the Constitution?

Yes, I am quite sure I studied law. Have both degrees hanging in front of me as I type. The training is why I’m not accepting your generalities as fact and I keep pressing for detail. I’m the jury, and you aren’t convincing me, counselor.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:32 pm

Cus, where are you getting this ridiculous idea that the Texas Governor is a figurehead? An editorial?

And BTW, I don’t have a problem with editorials, I have a problem with editorials masquerading as news stories.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 4:33 pm

having been found innocent of every charge against them for me to ever feel comfortable about that place.

Blame that on liberal idiots.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 4:34 pm

and on a lot of politicians and lawyers in general who’ve made the prosecution process a fucking mockery.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:36 pm

@ Xbradtc – that’s exactly what I just said – scroll back up :)
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:37 pm

@ Xbradtc – that’s exactly what I just said – scroll back up :) On your first question, I can’t remember where I read it, which is why I asked about it rather than stating it.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 4:38 pm

What would you do with them custador?
First of all do you think that our military goes around picking up people willy-nilly and throws them in Gitmo? When someone is shooting at you on the battlefield and surrenders, should we make them say “I am sorry” then pat them on the head and let them go?
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:38 pm

Cus, the sovreign status of bases overseas is by no means a given. Usually they are not. You, as a subject of the Queen, should know that US Forces in Great Britain are on bases that are considered to still be British soil. That’s why they have that “RAF” in front of them.

And Guantanamo is not sovreign US soil. It is Cuban territory, leased in perpetuity to the US. US Forces, no matter where they go, are governed by the US Constitution and US law, but as BiW points out, that doesn’t extend to foreign nationals.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:41 pm

No, cus, you said we should ban editorials. I am not even calling for the banning of “news stories”. I punish those offenders by not buying their product. You, as a liberal, reach first for the force of the state to solve what you see as a problem.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 4:42 pm

Cus:

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/txconst/sections/cn000400-000100.html

http://www.ltgov.state.tx.us/duties.php

http://governor.state.tx.us/

The governor of Texas is the CEO of the state government.

The Lt. Governor fulfills both legislative and executive roles, but ultimate exectuive authority does not rest with this office. It is vested in the Governor.

You have a point?
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:46 pm

@ Composmetis: Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus. Monty Python insults in Latin. Quality.

Also @ Composmentis: No, I blame it on a shitty intelligence service who threw a lot of people in there who had done absolutely fuck-all wrong. And then tortured them. This isn’t the fucking dark ages, and America is supposed to lead the free world, not stomp around shitting all over everybody.

@ Vmaximus: If I couldn’t prove in a court of law that they’d done anything wrong, I’d repatriate them. Seriously. If somebody is shooting at you, you can be pretty sure that they’re enemy combatants – at which point, yes, you put them in a PoW camp until hostilities cease. You don’t, however, chuck people in there on the basis of dodgy intelligence and then keep them anyway even when they’ve been proven to be innocent bystanders.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:47 pm

@ xbradtc: And you, as an idiot, assume that I’m serious in every comment I make. Sarcasm. Try it. You might like it.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:48 pm

You can’t put them in a POW camp as they aren’t Prisoners of War, as defined by the Geneva Convention. And cus, your argument about innocent bystanders is self defeating. As they are found to be innocent or of such small consequence that they pose no significant risk, they ARE released. If we were guilty of your charge, they wouldn’t be released, now would they?
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 4:48 pm

LOL
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 4:50 pm

that was to custador, he cracks me up. I enjoy having a rational liberal viewpoint here.

custador, you need to stick around for BBF (big boob friday) we have one of your country’s favorite sweeties as the model quite often. rosetta’s obsessed with Kerry Marie
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:52 pm

So, you say something stupid, cus, and somehow it is my fault? Really. That’s the second subject you’ve tried to walk the cat back on.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 4:53 pm

Here’s the duties of the Leuitenant Governor of Texas.
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/txconst/sections/cn000400-001600.html
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 4:54 pm

@ Vmaximus: If I couldn’t prove in a court of law that they’d done anything wrong, I’d repatriate them. Seriously. If somebody is shooting at you, you can be pretty sure that they’re enemy combatants – at which point, yes, you put them in a PoW camp until hostilities cease. You don’t, however, chuck people in there on the basis of dodgy intelligence and then keep them anyway even when they’ve been proven to be innocent bystanders.

Unless, of course, releasing them tips people off that you have certain individuals and or the knowledge they possess. Intelligence is a matter of policy, and as a citizen of Britain, you should keep things like Coventry in mind when passing judgment on such decisions. The alternative is to keep them incommunicado until they have no value and then simply eliminate them.

My point to your claim of citizen’s rights for non-citizens and non-residents is this: Membership has its privildges. As for US bases being US soil, you might want to talk to one of our own about that. I believe our very own SoHoS was born on Okinawa, to American Parents, and had to be naturalized upon entry into the US.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 4:57 pm

Again @ xbradtc: You can’t have it both ways! Either you’re at war, in which case you’re governed by the Geneva Convention, or you’re not, in which case you’re an illegal occupying force guilty of war-crimes. Cake + eating it. You may say it’s all semantics, but its bloody important semantics at that. You talk about the innocent being released: What about the three guys from London who went to Pakistan for a wedding and ended up in Gitmo for four years because the CIA mistook one of them for somebody else? Never mind how self defeating it is: Anybody coming out of there who wasn’t a radical Muslim when they went in is sure as shit going to be by the time they get out! Returning to an earlier point about US personnel being governed by US law wherever they are: Does that not make anybody who used any “soft-torture” technique in Gitmo a criminal? I think it does.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 5:03 pm

Xbradtc, hold on: You honestly thought that I was being serious when I said I wanted to ban editorials? Really? Dear God…. Pajama Momma, will you tell this guy, please….
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 5:04 pm

I think we should ban everything and go live naked on a farm somewhere.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 5:05 pm

“Do you want to be an angel,
Do you wanna be an angel
Do you wanna be a star
Do you wanna play some magic
On my guitar
Do you wanna be a poet
Do you wanna be my string
You could be anything

Do you wanna be the lover of another undercover
You could even be the
Man on the moon”
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 5:06 pm

US Forces are at all times governed by the Geneva Conventions (or rather,those conventions that the US is signatory to). And when we capture people that are covered by the conventions as Prisoners of War, we treat them in full accordance with those conventions. But people who do not meet the definition of Prisoners of War do not merit the treatment extended to POWs. And as such, we don’t treat them that way. That’s not having our cake and eating it. That’s acting according the the law. I’m sorry you have only the most superficial understanding of the Law of Armed Conflict and the various Geneva Conventions. If you had perhaps read them, you wouldn’t be saying such twaddle.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 5:07 pm

Either you’re at war, in which case you’re governed by the Geneva Convention, or you’re not, in which case you’re an illegal occupying force guilty of war-crimes.

Not in uniform = can be shot as spies under the Geneva Convention. I believe that was B-rad’s point, where as I believe yours is on the top of your head.
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Comment by MCPO Airdale on October 21, 2008 5:07 pm


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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 5:08 pm

Also @ Composmentis: No, I blame it on a shitty intelligence service who threw a lot of people in there who had done absolutely fuck-all wrong. And then tortured them. This isn’t the fucking dark ages, and America is supposed to lead the free world, not stomp around shitting all over everybody.

From where does this intelligence come?

Even IF innocents were detained and the worst that happened to them was waterboarding (or they had some shemale with a cigarette pointing at their bare-assed pyramid), I have to think that profiling and waterboarding work, especially in time of war. Neither of our governments can afford to fuck around. Liberal adiministrations, going back to Carter, are the reason the U.S. has been attacked both at home and abroad. I fear we’ll get worse with Obama because he’s, in my opinion, nothing more than a spoiled child.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 5:09 pm

Emerson Lake and Palmer…. Legend.
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Comment by Bart on October 21, 2008 5:09 pm

who’s the limey cocksucker?
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 5:11 pm

George Michael?
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 5:11 pm

I think we should ban everything and go live naked on a farm somewhere.

No thanks. I don’t want to see any of these guys bending over to pick vegetables.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 5:12 pm

Returning to an earlier point about US personnel being governed by US law wherever they are: Does that not make anybody who used any “soft-torture” technique in Gitmo a criminal? I think it does.

Depends on the personnel. Military are subject to the UCMJ which, although US law, does criminalize certain activities that are not criminal for civilians, and, I imagine, vice versa, as the executive branch can issue executive orders pertaining to certain activites, projects, etc. And before you wail to me about how fascistic that might appear to me, you might investigate your own nation’s censorship laws. Your Official Secrets Act contains provisions and powers far more onerous than those held or exercised by representatives and arms of the United States Government.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 5:12 pm

compos mentioned the prisoner scandal at Abu Grahib. Please note that when the incident came to the attention of the chain of command, those responsible for actions outside the rule of law were brought before courts martial and punished accordingly.
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Comment by custador on October 21, 2008 5:15 pm

@ Blackiswhite: Yes, I know, I’ve signed the official secrets act, because I have the second highest UK civilian security clearance.

@ xbradtc: You make a fair point, I’ll give you that one.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 5:18 pm

If the individuals in Guantanamo Prisoners of War, where are their Geneva Convention cards?

The convention provides a great deal of flexibility in that it defines POWs and it defines protected persons (civilians) but is silent on the treatment of persons who do not clearly fall into these two categories. There are protocols that say the two above classes are the only possible classes, but the US is not signatory to these.
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Comment by mesablue on October 21, 2008 5:31 pm

Too many of the Guantanamo detainees have come back to Britain five years later having been found innocent

And helped kill Brits — or have you forgotten about 7/7 already.

Many other Gitmo releases have been killed in action fighting alongside the other “innocents” in Afghanistan while others are tied to terror cells in London.

Nice, pretty little world you live in. Take a walk through one of their neighborhoods and see how well you do.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 5:47 pm

From custador’s blog: America, you are the world’s biggest international joke. The measures which I’ve suggested might, with the help of MENSA and the immediate cessation of your RIDICULOUS military spending in favour of funding education instead (5% of the world’s population, 50% of the world’s military spending, yet also the richest nation on Earth and consistently the worst educated, it’s fucking pathetic

Jealous much? Go fuck a rolling donut you cocksucking windbag. While we’re still enjoying the freedoms we’ve come to take for granted, you will be living under the ever-growing world-wide caliphate. And this time, the international joke won’t be able to bail you out.

The other alternative is a new civil war, where the Democrats kick the republicans back down to Texas and let them get on with their in-breeding where they can’t bother anybody.

That simply isn’t going to happen you gutless jackoff. Republicans are the ones who own the guns and, more importantly, know exactly how to use them. While liberal dumbfucks like you are fucking each other in the ass in between cups of latte and having partial-birth abortions, Republicans are obtaining the skills necessary to defend themselves in ways other than “screaming and throwing a hissy.”

You’re an arrogant piece of shit and while I’d like to see just how we’d match up in an IQ contest, I’d just as soon knock your teeth down your throat.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 5:52 pm

And this time, the international joke won’t be ableinclined to bail you out.

Fixed it for ya.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 5:56 pm

I don’t know why, but having a foreigner who thinks he knows more about the US constitution is slightly annoying. Particularly when they have shown no working knowledge of it.

As to defense spending, as a rule of thumb, America has found itself in wars costly in blood after every period of austerity in defense spending. Sounds penny wise, pound foolish. I happen to think we get a pretty good deal for our defense dollars.

To education, why is it that we constantly see the news about how bad our education is, yet lead the way in so many fields of productivity? There’s a dichotomy for you.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 5:57 pm

No, able. Our military is not going to be able to help a country that isn’t willing to help itself. At least Iraqi’s are willing to do that. If this asshole is any indication of the general population of England, they are fucked.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 6:05 pm

Yes xtc, on education, my first thought was the space shuttle program. Don’t see any other countries regularly putting people into outer space. And I was actually thinking of defending the fuckhead before I visited his little corner of the blog asylum.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 6:10 pm

I don’t know why, but having a foreigner who thinks he knows more about the US constitution is slightly annoying. Particularly when they have shown no working knowledge of it.

Actually, I found it more annoying that he kept trumpeting Obama’s knowledge of it. Foreigners shilling for Obama is what really pisses me off. The only other government I follow somewhat closely is Canada, and that is only because I did an interenship in the House Of Commons a long time ago.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 6:11 pm

Britain has a great space program, compos! Don’t they?
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Comment by bmac on October 21, 2008 6:21 pm

Guess the love affair with the “rational” moonbat is over.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 6:26 pm

Ah, I shouldn’t knock the entire country because of one shithead. I actually take comfort in knowing we have friends across the pond. My apologies to all Brits who aren’t America bashing fucktards.
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Comment by Bart on October 21, 2008 6:26 pm

told ya he was a cocksucker
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Comment by mesablue on October 21, 2008 6:28 pm

He was never a rational moonbat, just another kid with a blog who regurgitates left wing crap.

Rosie liked him, because Rosie likes all young boys.
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Comment by composmentis on October 21, 2008 6:30 pm

Have stuff to do. Later you neanderthalithic cousin humpers.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 21, 2008 6:31 pm

No, I read his site and was very dismissive, but he has been polite and reasoned. I say (like it makes any difference) as long as he is doing what he is doing I welcome him.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 21, 2008 6:34 pm

I want him to come back. I like debating with him. And I hope he sticks around for BBF.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 21, 2008 6:36 pm

I want him to come back and give actual answers to my questions. But that probably is asking too much.
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Comment by mesablue on October 21, 2008 10:50 pm

Ok, you little custardboy fan club. You can keep your troll, but you have to feed it and clean up after it.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 21, 2008 10:51 pm

And never, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
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Comment by custador on October 22, 2008 3:30 am

@ Composmentis: My, you’re a charmer, aren’t you? I do love little netwarrior kiddies who threaten violence over the internet that they know they’ll never have to back up. Tiny cock much? Just for the sake of complete understanding, though: I was on the Wales under 18 full-bore rifle shooting team when I was a kid, I’m an MOD rated marksman, I’m an ex intelligence officer, I’m quite a good Thai boxer, and my IQ is 138. Any time you’d like to come to Cardiff and test your theory, give me a shout, m’kay?

@ Blackiswhite: What did 7/7 have to do with ex-Guantanamo detainees? Because… As far as I know…. Absolutely nothing. The point you’re missing is this: Either enemy combatants are soldiers, due the treatment afforded under the Geneva convention, OR they’re criminals, due a fair trial. You talk about communism being frightening, but it’s the right-wing who have the new Gulag in Cuba.

@ People whinging about my blog: I write angry blog posts when I’m pissed off as catharsis to stop me from getting pissed enough to hit people. It’s for my benefit, not yours. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 22, 2008 3:45 am

Re: the detainment of foreign nationals- you state that they are either POWs or criminals. I refer you again to the various conventions. Read them. As I mentioned, there is considerable grey area in them. Lawful combatants are defined and protected persons are defined, but there is a huge gap where left undefined where what we now call “unlawful combatants” fall into. The conventions are silent on them.

You refer to Gitmo as a Gulag. I would remind you that a Gulag was for political prisoners, not people on the battlefield. Further, they were used on the countries own population. Your analogy is far from perfect.
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Comment by custador on October 22, 2008 4:18 am

Granted, it’s not a totally cogent paradigm, however, to answer your points: Have there never been US citizens in Guantanamo? I’m pretty sure there have been, but I’d have to do a web search and I can’t be arsed. Not all people in Gitmo were taken on the battlefield. If they were, I’d have much less of a problem with it. There are folks in there who’ve been “rendered” from their homes at night on the basis if the wishes of US Gov, without any solid evidence against them (backed up by the amount of them who have been released uncharged). Sounds like political prisoners to me!

You talk about a “grey area” in how these people are to be treated. Well… How to answer that… From a moral perspective, I think. The US needs to be able to take the moral high ground in its war on terror if it wants global support, and more importantly global cooperation. After 9/11, nobody questioned whether it was right to go after Osama in Afghanistan; the evidence said he planned those attacks, and you had every right to go and get him, no question. BUT! Iraq? Gitmo? Al Qaeda weren’t in Iraq. Hans Bliks was clear that Saddam was cooperating fully with inspections of all facilities, including unanounced spot-checks. He told the UN Security Council that he would be able to tell conclusively within two weeks whether Saddam had WMDs or the capability to produce them. Bush vetoe’d the request for time and invaded regradless. Now we hear about water-boarding etc. in Gitmo as well, and it’s like the US’ moral high-ground has just evaporated.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 22, 2008 3:27 pm

@ Blackiswhite: What did 7/7 have to do with ex-Guantanamo detainees? Because… As far as I know…. Absolutely nothing. The point you’re missing is this: Either enemy combatants are soldiers, due the treatment afforded under the Geneva convention, OR they’re criminals, due a fair trial. You talk about communism being frightening, but it’s the right-wing who have the new Gulag in Cuba.

I think you are confusing Mesa’s comments for my own. I can’t answer for his assertion, nor am I willing to.

Now if you are a former intelligence officer, I would think that it really wouldn’t be to difficult to reply to this comment that I DID make.

@ Vmaximus: If I couldn’t prove in a court of law that they’d done anything wrong, I’d repatriate them. Seriously. If somebody is shooting at you, you can be pretty sure that they’re enemy combatants – at which point, yes, you put them in a PoW camp until hostilities cease. You don’t, however, chuck people in there on the basis of dodgy intelligence and then keep them anyway even when they’ve been proven to be innocent bystanders.

Unless, of course, releasing them tips people off that you have certain individuals and or the knowledge they possess. Intelligence is a matter of policy, and as a citizen of Britain, you should keep things like Coventry in mind when passing judgment on such decisions. The alternative is to keep them incommunicado until they have no value and then simply eliminate them.

And I’m still waiting for the explaination of how the Patriot Act violates the Constitution.
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Comment by Stupid, Pissy Complainer on October 22, 2008 4:00 pm

Lady Braak bravely posts a pingback in the thread where she is not being mocked as fraud and coward.
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Comment by Greg on October 23, 2008 6:19 am

Some these took a while but here are my guesses..

The answers to the following questions are neither vulgar, lewd, nor salacious.

What does a woman do sitting down, that a dog does on three legs, and a man does standing up? – Shake hands?
What is a four letter word, ending with “k,” that means intercourse? – Talk
What is so long, and so hard, and sticks so far out of a man’s pajamas in the morning, that he could hang a hat upon it?? – His head.
What does a cow have four of, that a woman only has two of? – Legs
What is long, hard, and tubular and filled with “sea-men?” – A Submarine
What is heard almost every day that rhymes with “duck” and begins with “F?” – Fork? Flock?
What does a dog do that a man steps into? – Shed?
What goes in hard and dry and comes out flaccid and moist? – Frozen veggies in a microwave?
What is six inches long, has a head on it and is the object of many women’s fantasies? – a $100 dollar bill?
You must speak to a turtle to verify your solutions.
Turtle, what turtle…
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Comment by Greg on October 23, 2008 6:24 am

Has anyone read Orson Scott Card’s article about the last honest journalist?
If not, google it and have a read. You won’t be disappointed.
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Comment by Greg on October 23, 2008 6:32 am

Wait, one second Custador. I’ll call your bluff.

Custador says:
There are folks in there who’ve been “rendered” from their homes at night on the basis if the wishes of US Gov, without any solid evidence against them (backed up by the amount of them who have been released uncharged). Sounds like political prisoners to me!

Ok hot shot, name 5 and show proof. btw – their comments to CNN that they are innocent and were taken but US Forces form their homes don’t count. That’s like asking convicted felons if they were guilty. Of course they are going to say their innocent.
I’ve read this worn out argument before and never has anyone responded with any verifiable proof. Feel free to repeat the DNC talking points but don’t expect to win any arguments with it.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 23, 2008 6:45 am

Geoff, that was an excellent article. Direct link: http://www.linearpublishing.com/orsonscottcard.html
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 7:43 am

Well, Geoff, I can’t give you their names, but here are 17 for starters that I turned up with a 5 second Google search:

http://ccrjustice.org/newsroom/press-releases/court-orders-release-17-innocent-guantanamo-detainees-u.s.

Not a threat to the US, not enemy comabatants, not criminals in the eyes of the US justice system, but US Gov wants to keep them in Gitmo indefinately. But there’s no political prisoners in Gitmo, right? Hmmmm…
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 23, 2008 8:02 am

“The 17 men currently imprisoned at Guantanamo left China amid increasing political oppression and found their way to Afghanistan…They remain at Guantánamo because the U.S. wrongly detained them and they would face persecution and imprisonment, if not death, if returned to their native China. ”

Okay, Afghanistan doesn’t want them (because they ‘found their way to Afghanistan illegally?) The U.S. doesn’t want them, either. That leaves sending them back to China or keeping them at Guantanamo until a third country accepts them. I’ll bet I know the answer if we just let the 17 men decide if they want to be released and sent back to China or stay at Guantanamo. *cough Aunt Sally cough*
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 10:40 am

Yeah, way to ignore the issue and deflect: They should never have been taken to Guantanamo in the first place. They fled political oppression from Communist China and ended up getting detained by the US army and thrown in Gitmo for no reason whatsoever, there to spend several years. The. US. Does. Not. Have. The. Right. To. Treat. Innocent. Human. Beings. That. Way. Nobody does.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 10:42 am

PS, Aunt Sally?
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 11:03 am

Custador, they were wrongly detained. The US government admits that. It admitted that quite a while ago. But the problem is that under international law, they can’t be turned over to a government that the US feels cannot guarantee their safety. That is, the US has reason to believe that they WOULD likely be tortured if remanded to China. So China is out. And not one of over 100 other countries has agreed to accept them. Nor are they eligible to enter the US.

You hold these guys up as an example of the US withholding civil rights from innocents, when in fact it is concern for their civil rights that has kept them detained.
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Comment by composmentis on October 23, 2008 11:17 am

Are any of the 17 men younger than 18? I’d wager Rosetta would want them.
iykwimaityd
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 11:28 am

Right, so having done them a considerable wrong, why can the US not offer them political asylum? Again, though, that’s not the issue: The issue is that they were detained in the first place.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 23, 2008 11:40 am

They were getting combat training from Islamic militants in Afghanistan. They are not wanted by any other country because those countries consider them terrorists. The Chinese want them back because they consider them terrorists. While at Guantanamo, many of them have repeatedly assaulted U.S. military personnel and have participated in riots there incited by jihadists.

And Aunt Sally is another term for Straw Man. I believe it’s British.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 23, 2008 11:48 am

I don’t suppose you can produce an equally entertaining answer to my question to you, could you Custy?
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 11:52 am

PattyAnn: I assume you’re referring to Aunt Sally from the 1980s kids TV show “Wurzel Gummage”, in which case to be completely accurate, Aunt Sally was the carved wooden figurehead of a barge. Wurzel Gummage was a scarecrow, so I guess you could say his name in lieu of “straw man”. But I digress and show my age.

If you locked me up in Gitmo without any rights or reasons with a bunch of loony terrorists up to their arse in Allah, would I a) Quietly accept it, b) start to develop some extreme anti-American ideology of my own, c) attempt to knock fuck out of any guard who came near me, or d) Both b) and c).

I’m going to say b) and c).

And I’m going to point out that you still haven’t answered my original concern: the US government had no right to intern them. If they’ve become anti-US Jihadis now, that’s because of what the US government has done to them. But of course, rather than try to rehabilitate them (a strategy that has worked very well in Saudi Arabia, by the way), the government just wants to keep them locked up.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 11:58 am

Cust, in your time as an intelligence officer, did you not once study the law of war? As an occupying power the US has an obligation to detain those persons who are a threat to the security and stability of territories they occupy. How dumb are you?
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 23, 2008 12:00 pm

Cusp, you said “There are folks in there who’ve been “rendered” from their homes at night on the basis if the wishes of US Gov, without any solid evidence against them (backed up by the amount of them who have been released uncharged). Sounds like political prisoners to me!”

These 17 were captured in Afghanistan training camps. The U.S. would like nothing better than to give them to the Chinese. This group has absolutely nothing to do with what you originally said. Straw Man Aunt Sally.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:03 pm

@ Blackiswhite: Correct me if I’m wrong, but the constitution isn’t a set of rules for the people to follow, it’s a document that sets out what powers the Government has or does not have. It doesn’t specifically say that you have the right to take a shit – but if the US government wanted to stop you, there would have to be something in the constitution from which they derived the power to prevent you from taking a shit. Similarly privacy; the constitution makes no reference to it other than in referring to the Bill of Rights. Now, I had to look this next bit up, I admit, but: Amendment numbers 9 and 10 basically say that the US government has no powers over the people of the US except those specifically spelled out in the constitution. The constitution gives them no power to violate your privacy, therefore they do not have such a power.

So yes, Blackiswhite, you can have an entertaining answer to your question.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:09 pm

Oh, and post-script: Nowhere does the constitution authorise the US government to violate the Bill of Rights for anybody – including foreign nationals – and the bill of rights protects against detention without trial.

@ Xbradtc: How come it’s a war and they’re soldiers when it suits you, but they’re not when it comes to their basic human rights? You’re. Wrong. “Laws of war”… Jesus….

@ PattyAnn: Where does it say they were captured in training camps? My understanding is that the locals who offered them shelter later turned them over to US forces in exchange for a bounty.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:15 pm

Also @ Xbradtc: You’ve missed the point. If they’d detained a bunch of folks who were a threat there’s be no issue. These guys weren’t. They were pissed at China, not the US. Not all Muslims hate the US – in fact, a fair few couldn’t give a rats arse about it.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 12:16 pm

You are right, custador, I’ve come to your way of thinking. As they are not soldiers, we should follow international convention and just summarily execute them as spies and saboteurs.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 23, 2008 12:18 pm

Custy,
Amusing, and almost answered the question. However, I believe I asked for specific and conrete examples of citizens’ rights being harmed by the Patriot Act. Surely with rights being sodomized in broad daylight by the eeevvvvilll BushCheneyHaliburtonWalMart regime, there are simply scads and scads of examples of violated rights of privacy that can be pointed to. You see, I can make the arguement that federal election laws violate my privacy, since the amount I contribute to any federal campaign, along with my name and address, must be reported. I don’t see where the Constitution allows that. All I asked for was an example. One instance of a real, substantive, quantifiable violation of a person’s right to privacy allowed or mandated by the Patriot Act. You get extra points if you can point to any “penumbra” ruling by the Supreme Court which discovers or establishes such a privacy right as you allege has been violated, because you still have not made your case, counselor.
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 23, 2008 12:18 pm

Nowhere does the constitution authorise the US government to violate the Bill of Rights for anybody – including foreign nationals – and the bill of rights protects against detention without trial.

Okay, I’m late to this party, and I don’t really want to step into the middle of it, but did custador just assert that the US Constitution Bill of Rights applies to everyone in the world?
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 23, 2008 12:20 pm

Oh, and post-script: Nowhere does the constitution authorise the US government to violate the Bill of Rights for anybody – including foreign nationals – and the bill of rights protects against detention without trial.

What is your authority for asserting that the Bill of Rights extends to foreign nationals?
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 23, 2008 12:21 pm

Whew, glad BiW is reading that the same way I was. Thought maybe working w/ these kids had finally cracked my brain.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:22 pm

@ Blackiswhite: You said “And I’m still waiting for the explaination of how the Patriot Act violates the Constitution”. I have explained it as asked.

@ TattooedIntellectual: No, I’ve said that the US constitution dictates what the US government does and does not have the power to do, wherever they are in the world.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 23, 2008 12:25 pm

National Review

Department Of Defense (This is a PDF file)
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:26 pm

@ Blackiswhite: Did you even read the long post you asked for? The Bill of Rights lays out how the US government can treat people. It does not make a provision that the only people it applies to are US citizens, therefore it applies to the US government’s treatment of everybody. For it to be any other way, the Constitution would have to say “Unless the people concerned are not American” and “unless the government employees concerned are not in the US”. Now YOU show ME where the constitution says either of those things.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:29 pm

Dinner time. To be continued.
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Comment by eddiebear on October 23, 2008 12:42 pm

And another liberal troll runs away.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 12:47 pm

custador, the constitution also says that no one may be deprived of life, liberty or property without due proccess of law. And yet we kill people all the time without trial. And so does your nation.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 12:50 pm

@ xbradtc: The difference being that my nation’s law makes provision for it. It’s why political assassinations tend to be commited on behalf of the US by their allies rather than by the US themselves; in US law it would be murder, but if the Home Secretary signs off on it, it’s perfectly legal in Britain.

@ eddiebear: Yeah, you’ve not been following this one…. I’m not a troll, I’m debating and challenging viewpoints. If I was a troll I’d be calling you lots of silly names. But I’m not.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 1:08 pm

custador, the only thing that prevents the US from using political assassination as a tool of diplomacy is an executive order, which any President may rescind. In fact, they could rescind it for a one time exception, or they could rescind it in a finding that was classified and only inform the Congressional intelligence leadership after the fact.

I wasn’t speaking so much of assassinations though, but rather of war, or armed conflict. There isn’t a single nation in the world that sanctions murder, but there also isn’t a single nation that has forsworn lethal military force in one shape or another.

Before you come and tell us what our Constitution says, understand this, we’ve worked with it a lot longer than you have.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 23, 2008 1:16 pm

No custy, you have not answered the question that was asked. Nor has the Constitution ever been guaranteed, in toto, to foreign nationals. As I said of citizenship, it has its priviledges. As one, I AM guaranteed those rights. You, as a foreign national, not so much.

Your inability to answer the question asked has been noted. I really was hoping for more, but then I have yet to meet anyone making the Patriot Act has shredded my right to privacy argument who could then substantiate it. I think I’m done with this witness, your honor.
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 23, 2008 1:22 pm

http://ihasahotdog.com/2008/10/23/funny-dog-pictures-its-a-bird/
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 1:27 pm

Blackiswhite you demand answers and then don’t read them! The ONLY people that the constitution applies to are the US government. That’s it. It’s not about what you as a person can or cannot do, it’s about what the government can and cannot do.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 1:31 pm

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Comment by mesablue on October 23, 2008 1:43 pm

I’m not sure, but I’m just guessing that The constitutional rights granted to all citizens in every country in the world apply to me.

Lucky me.

Right.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 23, 2008 1:43 pm

custy,

You do not understand. The Constitution and the Amendments thereto are the Constitution. There are rights conferred to citizens by these. If you had bothered to research things like “the right to privacy” and the various rulings interpreting this “right”, you would understand this and not say something as silly as you have. You either don’t get it, or don’t want to, and having a foreigner try to explain the Constitution to me makes about as much sense as me advocating that Canada reject its ties to the crown and refuse to recognize the Governor-General as the titular head of government of the commonwealth of Canada.
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Comment by TattooedIntellectual on October 23, 2008 1:47 pm

Some of these are pretty funny
http://www.splitreason.com/products/menswear

Alright I’m convinced, we should erect a large wall around the US and Alaska (HI can just take a leap), release all of those poor souls in Gitmo, and then ignore the rest of the world.

Why is it that superior beings always condescend to join you in your stupid pathetic little blog existence to “challenge your viewpoints” b/c they know what’s best for you? Can’t just come in and have a debate on a difference of opinion, and maybe change said opinion. Nope, gotta be a pompous, pontificating putz.

I guess the bigger question is why the hell do I keep reading these threads? :)

Whatever, you gentlemen have fun w/ your thread. I’m off to work.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 1:55 pm

Oh, really?

“Constitution:

A constitution is a system for government, often codified as a written document, that establishes the rules and principles of an autonomous political entity. In the case of countries, this term refers specifically to a national constitution defining the fundamental political principles, and establishing the structure, procedures, powers and duties, of a government. ”

“The Constitution of The United States of America:

The Constitution of the United States of America is the supreme law of the United States. It provides the framework for the organization of the United States Government. The document defines the three main branches of the government: The legislative branch with a bicameral Congress, an executive branch led by the President, and a judicial branch headed by the Supreme Court. Besides providing for the organization of these branches, the Constitution carefully outlines which powers each branch may exercise.”

So, who is it that doesn’t understand?
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 23, 2008 1:57 pm

If I may help, I believe that one of the opening lines of the constitution says

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

If one holds that the entire Bill of Rights is self evident, then custy is correct.
If one holds that only Life Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are unalienable then not so much.
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Comment by daveintexas on October 23, 2008 2:00 pm

Not to pick nits, but the Constitution and the Bill of Rights recognize inherent rights of citizens. It does not confer them, it acknowledges them, and places constraints upon the government with respect to those rights.

Singularly unique in that regard, when drafted and ratified.
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Comment by composmentis on October 23, 2008 2:05 pm

I’m not sure, but I’m just guessing that The constitutional rights granted to all citizens in every country in the world apply to me.

Good thing, cuz your pretty ass would get torn apart in prison.

Bart just touched himself after reading that.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 23, 2008 2:07 pm

Oops, Big Oops
that was the Declaration not the constitution, my bad!
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 2:08 pm

I’m going to try and break this down and make myself clearer. The Constitution dictates your rights only insofar as it limits and defines the powers that your government has over you. All that the the Constitution is, at its most basic level, is the set of inviolable laws that the US government has to follow. Any government that doesn’t follow it is guilty of treason. It’s not a living document, subject to interpretation by lawyers and judges, it is set in stone (except in the incredibly unlikely event of another amendment). It’s not a statement of your rights per se, it’s a statement of the governments responsibilities. Everything they do, every action they take, every order they give has to draw on a power granted to them in that one document. It’s what makes constitutional democracies so stable. It’s the basis of every law in the US that’s been made since; the ultimate appeal. It’s why you’ll never ban guns and why you’ll never get religion in schools.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 2:08 pm

V, that’s the Declaration.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 2:10 pm

I think daveintexas explained that much more clearly than I did and in fewer words :)
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Comment by pajama momma on October 23, 2008 2:16 pm

Bart just touched himself after reading that

I’ve been touching myself reading this whole thing.

I’m getting sore.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 2:16 pm

Dude, do NOT presume to lecture us on the purpose of the Constitution. We fucking get it. That’s why we don’t have your queen as the head of state.

So let’s take a look at some of the power granted to the government- the power to make war, the powers of the President in his role as the Commander in Chief of the Army and the Navy. The power of the Congress to establish inferior tribunals.

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations.

Read that last one closely.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 23, 2008 2:19 pm

custy,
the 5th amendment says
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger;

It clearly says that in time of war or public danger that they may be held. Does it not? What do you take that to mean?
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 2:19 pm

Oh, yeah, don’t forget this one:

and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

one can argue reasonably that captures meant ships and other property and not persons, but I’m not aware of any jurisprudence establishing this.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 2:43 pm

Vmaximus – So… What you’re saying is…. The US Government DOES have to obey the constitution when dealing with foreigners? DING!

Xbradtc – No, you clearly DON’T all “fucking get it”, or I wouldn’t have had to post the dictionary definitions of “constitution” and “US constitution” for the benefit of somebody who, if my memory serves, claims to have two degrees in law.

What you (STILL!) don’t get is this: The 17 Chinese Muslims we talked about earlier were a) not enemy combatants, b) not criminals in the eyes of US law or of international law, c) not actually doing anything wrong. I’ve already pointed out that I don’t see any problem in imprisoning PoWs, neither do I see a problem in imprisoning terrorists (i.e. criminals), but they’re both due certain rights either way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7658045.stm

Pay close attention to this bit – The judge said there was no evidence that they were “enemy combatants” or a security risk.

“Because the constitution prohibits indefinite detentions without cause, the continued detention is unlawful,” he said.

What’s that again? The CONSTITUTION you say? My goodness!
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 2:54 pm

Yeah, custador, we do get it. And perhaps you can understand that when the US erred in detaining those men, it was an “act of good faith” and not the actions of people with no concern for the law. As I said, the US is quite willing to release the men. As soon as they can find someplace to release them to. Further, the judges order has been stayed pending appeal. So apparently what your incapable of grasping is that the US government is trying to fulfill its duties and responsibilties under the Constitution and law. The reason the US doesn’t just hand them over to the Chinese is that they cannot, by law, as enshrined by treaty, turn them over to a party that they reasonably believe would deny them their civil rights.

To clarify, I don’t have a degree in law, let alone two. I believe that would be BiW.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 23, 2008 3:01 pm

here is a quote from the article PattyAnn linked.
The question of who is an “enemy combatant” is not a legal issue. It is, in the first instance, a battlefield determination to be made by our armed forces, and thereafter a political issue to be decided by the officials our system makes responsible for the authorization of military force and the conduct of war.

Federal judges tend to be very good lawyers. But there is nothing in the training of a lawyer that equips a judge with special expertise to decide who is an enemy combatant. More importantly, judges don’t answer to the American people, who have chosen democratically to wage a defensive war against Islamic radicals and have elected a commander-in-chief, checked by other elected representatives in Congress, to make such wartime calculations as who the enemy combatants are.

You rightly say a judge said they were. We have a difference of opinion on that. I will go with the military, you go with the judge.
Historically, holding a prisoner until the end of hostilities is acceptable. At one time there were 800 prisoners in Gitmo, now there are around 200. We are winding down in Iraq, I would guess that by the time we are out of the Stan, Gitmo will be empty too.
I do not see any cause for outrage.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 3:03 pm

Yes, I know, it was him I posted the definitions for. Okay, granted that those men were taken in good faith; the judge also says they’re not a risk to US security and should be released into the custody of the Uighir community in the US.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 23, 2008 3:04 pm

And, following the laws of the land and the US Constituiton, the judges order has been stayed pending appeal. So what’s your problem. We are in full accordance with the laws of our land, so you basically just spend two days telling us to do what we are doing.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 3:06 pm

One more question before bed, one for Vmaximus: What was the reason for locating the prison at Gitmo where it is? Why not either in-country or in the US or a minor outlying US island? Why the soil of a third, non-involved, country?
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 23, 2008 3:07 pm

I was saying custy that the constitution clearly states that the exception to the grand jury was during time of war.
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Comment by custador on October 23, 2008 3:10 pm

@ Vmaximus again, then I really do need to hit the hay:

” except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger ”

Meaning it applies to combatants, not civilians.
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Comment by Rosetta the Racist on October 23, 2008 3:13 pm

You all need to get laid.

You’re welcome.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 23, 2008 3:14 pm

I honestly have no idea custy,
I would guess to keep all the fruitloop protesters away. And VBIED’s. Mostly vbieds. As you know there have been prison breaks in the Muslim countries, Cuba would probably be one of the better places. The British Indian Ocean Territory might be another, but Blair might have taken a lot of heat for that.
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Comment by composmentis on October 23, 2008 3:19 pm

PJM needs someone to kiss her booboo.
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Comment by Greg on October 23, 2008 4:39 pm

Custador,
Find one location in the consitution where the government has the right to take my property, with out my consent and hand it to another private individual without compensation? The IRS is exceptionally capable of taking my income and redistributing it to others. Are you as firm in your argument about “consitutional limits” as you think you are?

Here in the state, the government belongs to US, we do NOT belong to the government unless we CHOOSE to do so. (i.e. enlist in teh armed forces)
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Comment by custador on October 24, 2008 3:43 am

Actually Greg, the Federal Income tax is illegal and unconstitutional. The IRS consistenly refuse to provide details of the statute which gives them their power to tax an individual; as far as the Constitution is concerned, the government can only tax corporations, not individuals. They’ve lost trials over it. I’m not kidding! Google it, seriously :)
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Comment by custador on October 24, 2008 6:27 am

To clarify my last post: They refuse to provide details of the statute because it doesn’t exist.
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Comment by pajama momma on October 24, 2008 9:24 am

Morning custador. Don’t act like you’re all interested in politics. We all know you’re here for Big Boob Friday.
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Comment by eddiebear on October 24, 2008 9:31 am

http://www.demookie.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41864

Custador is back!
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Comment by pajama momma on October 24, 2008 9:41 am

That’s some seriously effed up shit. It looked like you were linking something about custador, but apparently not.
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Comment by custador on October 24, 2008 9:48 am

Lol – hasn’t anybody bombed Westboro Baptist Church yet? I am amazed!
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 24, 2008 9:57 am

“Lol – hasn’t anybody bombed Westboro Baptist Church yet? I am amazed!”

What are you talking about??
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Comment by pajama momma on October 24, 2008 10:05 am

He’s talking about eddiebear’s link pa. Those people are nucking futs.
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 24, 2008 10:14 am

Thanks, PJM. I have WBC on my *ignore* radar.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 24, 2008 10:27 am

Again, custador isn’t very sharp on US con law. How exactly is income tax unconstitutional. Given that we passed a fricken’ amendment specifically to permit it?
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Comment by PattyAnn on October 24, 2008 10:44 am

xbrad, if you do some googling, there are a lot of people who agree with custy out there. It’s very interesting reading, but I wouldn’t withhold paying my taxes just yet.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 24, 2008 11:01 am

PA, there’s a lot of people out there who lose in court every time they try following custy’s line of argument.

However, you’ll note that I didn’t specifically address the enabling legislation. What I did was address the constitutionality of an income tax. Indeed, the courts found that income tax was constitutional before the 16th Amendment, but would have needed to be proportioned between the states, a requirement the amendment removed.
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Comment by eddiebear on October 24, 2008 11:36 am

I screwed up my link-fu. I wanted to mock WBC, but had to depart this site for a minute and screwed it all up.
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 24, 2008 12:16 pm

As an attorney admitted to practice before the IRS, and holding an LL.M. in tax law, I’ll give you all free legal advice. Custy has no idea what he is talking about and you try adopt his arguments as an excuse to not pay income tax, you will get a new address, complete with a roomate who might or might not have an unhealthy obession with your ass.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 24, 2008 12:35 pm

Is there any particular reason BBF isn’t up?
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Comment by custador on October 24, 2008 1:03 pm

“Comment by xbradtc on October 24, 2008 10:27 am

Again, custador isn’t very sharp on US con law. How exactly is income tax unconstitutional. Given that we passed a fricken’ amendment specifically to permit it?”

Nope. You didn’t. That amendment wasn’t legal because it was passed over the holiday period when technically there weren’t enough senators in session to approve it. Like I said, look it up. Oh, and “again”?! You sepnt hours debating me last night and didn’t prove me one bit wrong, so what “again”?
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Comment by custador on October 24, 2008 1:12 pm

Alright, Blackiswhite: What statute in US law gives the IRS the power to collect federal income tax? Watch this and STFU: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=84r-U0f5-qg
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Comment by Johnny Peepers on October 24, 2008 1:43 pm

Technically you are correct custador. That being said, the judicial branch is given the authority to interpret the law, and they have overwhelmingly rejected the unconstitutionality arguments regarding the income tax. Until the federal courts overturn their long-held support of the 16th Amendment and the IRS regs (or lack thereof), the issue is merely academic.
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Comment by Greg on October 24, 2008 2:30 pm

Blackiswhite,
Here is an honest and (Hopefully) straight forward question.
I have always wanted to ask a lawyer who understand tax law the following question.

Does the progressive scaling of income tax violate the “Equal Protection under the law” aspect of the constitution?

Just curious.
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Comment by Johnny Peepers on October 24, 2008 3:10 pm

Those affected by a progressive income tax are not entitled to relief under the Equal Protection Clause. Discrimination based on one’s wealth (or poverty) is not recognized as a protective class (suspect class) triggering constitutional safeguards.
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Comment by Greg on October 24, 2008 4:14 pm

Ahh,
I always wondered about that.
Thanks,
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Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur on October 24, 2008 7:22 pm

Custy,

I’m starting to become embarrassed for you. I’m glad you have an opinion about our law here, but seeing as how you do not have the grounding in the rulings that interpret it, your opinon is worth about as much as a cup of warm spit, and really far less welcome. Please return to your masturbatory fantasies of an Obama adminstration making world safe for terrorists, asshats, useful idiots, fellow travellers and other “World Citizens” (who issues those passports, btw?). We can survive the extraordinary damage that an Obama administration can wreck on our nation and, and if need be, we’ll oust his socialist ass in four years, roll up our sleaves, and get on with the business of being the country that freedom loving, self-sufficient individuals everywhere want to come to.

Nice answer Johnny Peepers. Greg, if you ask most tax attorneys questions that do not concern the tax code itself, you may be met with only blank stares. We’re typically the attorneys for the attorneys (and yes, that is as horrible as it sounds). Anything not tax code related is usually under the pay grade of most tax attorneys. I’m unusual in the fact that I have a much broader practice.
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Comment by xbradtc on October 24, 2008 7:31 pm

custy, the reason the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t apply is that the progressive scale applies equally,that is, any person who makes more, moves up the scale.
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Comment by Greg on October 24, 2008 8:54 pm

Johnny, Black and xbrad,
Thanks for shedding light on this.
I understand it a bit more now. I can’t say that I like it but at least I understand the basis for the code.

Have always been a fan of the flat tax. I figure if EVERYONE pay in, we all might be a little more concerned about how much is taken and where it goes. Anyway.
Thanks!
G
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Comment by Dave in Texas on October 24, 2008 8:59 pm

>> I think daveintexas explained that much more clearly than I did and in fewer words

Yes I did. I’m erudite.

Don’t gloss over the word “citizens” puppy. It has a meaning.
940.
Comment by custador on October 25, 2008 6:40 am

@ Blackiswhite: I find your approach of going very quiet whenever you’re proved demonstrably wrong, and then coming back the next day to insult me and ignore the arguments / questions I have raised for you slightly frustrating. For example, you got very arsey about me having an opinion about the US constitution, claimed that you have two law degrees, then you said:

“You do not understand. The Constitution and the Amendments thereto are the Constitution. There are rights conferred to citizens by these.”

That just isn’t true, that’s not what a constitution is at all – so I posted you the definitions of “constitution” and “Constitution of the USA” – given that the US constitution is the basis for all of your laws, I figured a lawyer might actually know them anyway, but in your case apparently not.

Next, I pointed out that since the Sixteenth Ammendment wasn’t ratified by all 50 states, it is not actually legal, so federal tax is illegal too. You now claimed to be a tax attorney. You said:

“Custy has no idea what he is talking about and you try adopt his arguments as an excuse to not pay income tax, you will get a new address, complete with a roomate who might or might not have an unhealthy obession with your ass.”

So I asked you a question which should be pretty simple for a tax attorney to answer: What statute gives the IRS the power to collect federal income tax? Again, you went silent and came back the following day to insult me and ignore the argument.

In truth, BiW, I think you’re full of shit. There’s no way that somebody with two degrees in law wouldn’t be able to tell me what the basis of all laws in his country actually is, just like if you were really a tax attorney you would have been able to answer a simple question about tax statute.

I’ll prove it: On my life, I’m not looking this up, I know it off the top of my head.

Tax statute in the UK: For individuals, prior to 2005, The Taxes Management Act 1970. After 2005, The Income Tax Trading and Other Income Act 2005. For Companies, The Taxes Management act 1970 and The Companies Act 1988 and the Companies Act 2007. For both individuals and companies, every Finance Act (there’s one every year), but particularly Finance Act 1989 and Finance Ast 1998. Now, I’m NOT a tax lawyer and I can tell you those. You claim you ARE a tax lawyer, but you can’t answer a simple question about the US equivalents?

*COUGHBULLSHITCOUGH*
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Comment by Dave in Texas on October 25, 2008 8:52 am

I’m not a tax attorney but I do know the 16th amendment was ratified by the necessary 3/4 of the states, making it legal. I believe a revenue act was passed shortly thereafter, prior to WWI.
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Comment by Vmaximus on October 25, 2008 10:05 am

custador,
I know that things are relevant to this thread, but it is buried now. I do not think that anyone would mind if you jumped in to a more current thread.
Speaking of taxes, I have a friend that has not paid taxes since the 70’s. It was not deliberate, he had a bad year, blabla. Now he is audited every year. He goes to the audit and they ask him to show him his books. He says I will if you will not use them to penalize me. Then the conversation goes to paying, he says I will pay you right now, how much do I owe? They cannot say, he offers would you take 10k they say no bla bla. He goes home not incriminating himself only to do it again next year.
943.
Comment by pajama momma on October 25, 2008 11:30 am

What vmax means is you can go back and forth with us on another thread. He’s not telling you to bugger off.

I for one am enjoying the back and forth between you guys.

Regardless of custadors loony liberal writings on his own blog, he’s been very respectful on ours and I appreciate that.

And we all know custador stuck around for BBF. Unless of course he’s gay. NTTAWWT
944.
Comment by custador on October 25, 2008 1:10 pm

Ah sorry, PjM, I love big boobs as much as most anybody. My good lady is a size 8 with 30G breasts. I’m going to marry her. Not just for the awesome boobs, but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t a factor :D
945.
Comment by Greg on October 25, 2008 8:43 pm

Custador,
Some stuff you may not have read….

D. Contention: The Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution was not properly ratified, thus the federal income tax laws are unconstitutional.

This argument is based on the premise that all federal income tax laws are unconstitutional because the Sixteenth Amendment was not officially ratified, or because the State of Ohio was not properly a state at the time of ratification. This argument has survived over time because proponents mistakenly believe that the courts have refused to address this issue.

The Law: The Sixteenth Amendment provides that Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on income, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration. U.S. Const. Amend. XVI. The Sixteenth Amendment was ratified by forty states, including Ohio, and issued by proclamation in 1913. Shortly thereafter, two other states also ratified the Amendment. Under Article V of the Constitution, only three-fourths of the states are needed to ratify an Amendment. There were enough states ratifying the Sixteenth Amendment even without Ohio to complete the number needed for ratification. Furthermore, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the income tax laws enacted subsequent to ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment in Brushaber v. Union Pacific R.R., 240 U.S. 1 (1916). Since that time, the courts have consistently upheld the constitutionality of the federal income tax.

Relevant Case Law:
Miller v. United States, 868 F.2d 236, 241 (7 th Cir. 1989) (per curiam) – The court stated, “We find it hard to understand why the long and unbroken line of cases upholding the constitutionality of the Sixteenth Amendment generally, Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad Company . . . and those specifically rejecting the argument advanced in The Law That Never Was, have not persuaded Miller and his compatriots to seek a more effective forum for airing their attack on the federal income tax structure.” The court imposed sanctions on them for having advanced a “patently frivolous” position.

United States v. Stahl, 792 F.2d 1438, 1441 (9 th Cir. 1986), cert. denied, 479 U.S. 1036 (1987) – Stating that “the Secretary of State’s certification under authority of Congress that the Sixteenth Amendment has been ratified by the requisite number of states and has become part of the Constitution is conclusive upon the courts,” the court upheld Stahl’s conviction for failure to file returns and for making a false statement.

Knoblauch v. Commissioner, 749 F.2d 200, 201 (5 th Cir. 1984), cert. denied, 474 U.S. 830 (1986) – The court rejected the contention that the Sixteenth Amendment was not constitutionally adopted as “totally without merit” and imposed monetary sanctions against Knoblauch based on the frivolousness of his appeal. “Every court that has considered this argument has rejected it,” the court observed.

United States v. Foster, 789 F.2d 457 (7 th Cir.), cert. denied, 479 U.S. 883 (1986) – The court affirmed Foster’s conviction for tax evasion, failing to file a return, and filing a false W-4 statement, rejecting his claim that the Sixteenth Amendment was never properly ratified.
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Comment by Greg on October 25, 2008 8:51 pm

Custy,

Earlier you wrote the following:

Also, I’m a Brit, and I’m still pissed at him because he refused to provide logistical support to the UK armed forces when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands and we had to send a task force to go get them back (slight sideline: Something over 200 Argentinian Mirage jets lost . Two British Sea Harriers lost. And that’s because they collided in thick fog. We kicked arse).

Are trying to sell everyone on the concept that two jets were all the BRitish lost capturing the Falklands? I seem to recall a little boat named the HMS Sheffield that was the first ship sunk by an Exocet.

I’m old enough to remember it that.
947.
Comment by custador on October 26, 2008 4:57 am

Greg, no, I was more showing off that British naval pilots and the RAF gots the skills :)
948.
Comment by 23eagle on October 28, 2008 7:35 pm

Hey pajama Momma,
Just got yer comment. Thanks for the kind words- Not quite where yours is at though! It’s VERY nice. I’m just kinda warming up to this.

And no, I didnt know that about Rosetta, so it seem it will be I that assumes the coveted moron title! lol!
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Comment by mesablue on December 16, 2008 11:41 pm

52
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Comment by mesablue on December 16, 2008 11:43 pm

51
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Comment by mesablue on December 16, 2008 11:46 pm

50
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Comment by SoHoS on December 16, 2008 11:47 pm

49
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Comment by mesablue on December 16, 2008 11:47 pm

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Comment by mesablue on December 16, 2008 11:49 pm

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Comment by mesablue on December 16, 2008 11:56 pm

46
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Comment by PattyAnn on December 17, 2008 12:20 am

956
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Comment by mesablue on December 17, 2008 12:21 am

Cheese
958.
Comment by eddiebear on December 17, 2008 12:21 am

Fierst!
959.
Comment by mesablue on December 17, 2008 12:21 am

Beef Jerkey
960.
Comment by eddiebear on December 17, 2008 12:23 am

Candey Kanes
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Comment by MOz on December 17, 2008 12:23 am

My name is MOz and I am brown.
962.
Comment by PattyAnn on December 17, 2008 12:24 am

Racist! (Hi Moz!)
963.
Comment by MOz on December 17, 2008 12:25 am

Heeey PA! Been a long time! How are you darl?
964.
Comment by PattyAnn on December 17, 2008 12:30 am

Good, Moz. Glad you’re back!
965.
Comment by xbradtc on December 17, 2008 1:19 am

Actually, I did want to address on of Custy’s points, in that the US provided quite a bit of logistical support to the UK during the Falklands war. Further, we provided a lot of intell support as well.
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Comment by mesablue on December 17, 2008 1:32 am

pooty poot
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Comment by pajama momma on December 17, 2008 1:53 am

dootle dot
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Comment by Eve on January 28, 2009 9:03 am

Nice Article – thanks for sharing :)

If you don’t mind me asking, which theme are you using here? I want to know if it’s custom or not.
969.
Comment by Rosetta on January 28, 2009 9:13 am

Are you Eve Plumb from the Brady Bunch?
970.
Comment by composmentis on January 28, 2009 9:41 am

Why not Eve Apple? Sounds tempting and naughty.
971.
Comment by Adam on January 28, 2009 9:50 am

Hey….can I have my rib back?
972.
Comment by Eve on January 28, 2009 10:00 am

Only if you give me another bone in exchange.
973.
Comment by Adam on January 28, 2009 10:08 am

RAWR!!!
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Comment by Eve on January 28, 2009 10:17 am

Does this fig leaf make my ass look fat?
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Comment by vmaximus on January 28, 2009 10:41 am

Shirlina?
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Comment by eddiebear on January 28, 2009 10:46 am

fuck salt!
977.
Comment by vmaximus on January 28, 2009 11:02 am

Who is this Adam Dude? Are you steppin out on me? Why is he calling you Eve?

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