MMM 408: Drombeg Stone Circle

Also known as the Druid’s Altar, this circle of moderately large stones (quarried nearby, so it was a lot of work but was not a particularly difficult undertaking) was assembled and used between 1100 and 800 BC on the southern tip of Ireland, likely by genuine druids.  As an Irish descendant, it is somewhat spooky to look at this and think that ancestors may have used this site, and possibly for some very unsavory things.

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It’s only 30 yards or so across, so it all fits into one picture.  More shots really just give you different angles and lighting.

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This is a neat, labeled diagram that I found.excavation

155 Comments

  1. You know, I generally make a snarky remark about these posts, but for some reason this one caught my attention.

    Why were these circles placed? Do we have any idea?

  2. I love this stuff. We’ll never know. Unless someone finds some written material that explains it all like the Rosetta Stone.

  3. circle jerk

  4. Wouldn’t it be funny if this was the bathroom?

    Everybody pee behind a giant rock so we don’t have to see your gentlemen’s sausage or lady bits.

  5. I watched Midway again last night.

    It’s almost painful to watch the stupid parts with Mandy Moore. Often war movies feel compelled to have a “family emotional hook.” Pro tip: there are enough sacrifices and compelling action scenes within a war (and a movie about war)- no need to ruin a good movie with forced garbage. Mandy Moore is a shitty actress and her part of the movie added nothing.

  6. MJ, it was probably just a farmers market used for the obligatory sacrifice on Sundays.

  7. Watching men be men, sacrifice, courage, ingenuity was particularly great being juxtaposed to the spineless, wormy, soy, freaks that pretend to be men today.

  8. Farmer’s market.

    Probably dudes and chicks in robes selling essential oils, produce, and goat cheese. Perhaps a flower vendor and someone selling frozen, vacuum sealed meat from a cooler. And soaps. Lots of people selling soap.

  9. vacuum sealed meat from a cooler.

    ——-

    Slight correction. Meat from vegetables

  10. Some wit on twitter:

    Pray for me.
    Nothing is wrong, I just live in California.

  11. Pray for me. I live in Atlanta.

  12. Pray for me. I have daughters.

  13. Atlanta is fucked.

    BCoch, I’ll put it as it was put to a supervisor of mine in another lifetime: With boys, you’re only worried about one prick apiece. With girls…

  14. Most of the circle-type ruins were built at a time when calendry and religious observance were highly intertwined. You used the stones to tell you where you were in the annual cycle. Most of these sites also show lots of evidence of blood (human and non-human) having been shed on site, but not a ton bones or weapon shards like you’d expect from battles over them or anything like that. Chances are very good that humans and animals were sacrificed here to appease entities these people believed to dwell in the sky above and/or the earth below, who had no small measure of power over their natural environment.

  15. BCoch, I’ll put it as it was put to a supervisor of mine in another lifetime: With boys, you’re only worried about one prick apiece. With girls…

    Yuuuuuuup

  16. wakey wakey

  17. We had a little protest here yesterday afternoon. I’m walking distance to city hall and the police HQ so a march or something went right by my house. I think we have 2 or 3 policeman. They’re dicks, btw.

    Imagine about 100 uber wealthy teenagers, very polite, walking down the street with big signs and then chanting something at the empty buildings.

    Very apropos.

  18. Chiggers suck. That is all.

  19. Chiggers will be canceled soon and renamed something less potentially offensive, like Chonkeys.

  20. Comment by bcochran81 on June 15, 2020 7:59 am
    Pray for me. I have daughters.

    Shouldn’t the oldest be getting close to her teenage years?

  21. The only upside to being 58 when my daughter is 18 is that I ought to be retired by then and I can spend all my time being terrifying nurturing her and helping her find her way in life.

  22. Alien crossfit.

  23. The only upside to being 58 when my daughter is 18 is that I ought to be retired by then and I can spend all my time being terrifying nurturing her and helping her find her way in life.maintaining a pig farm and obsessing over the unworthiness of her current suitors.

    Fixed it for you.

  24. Pigs are supposed to be good for getting rid of bodies, so you’ve got that goin’ for you.

  25. We should establish the St. Cyn’s Nunnery For Hostage Daughters.

  26. Define “Ironic”…

  27. Ok, nevermind. Apparently it’s a parody.

  28. Once you’ve fed them to the pigs, though, you can’t eat the pigs, and the pigs will have “evidence” of a sort in their tissues in perpetuity thereafter.

    The right play is to make everyone think that because you have a pig farm, that’s how you’d dispose of bodies, and fight hard not to allow them to get blood or fecal samples from the pigs or their pen area. When they finally get a court order, they find nothing.

    Meanwhile the bodies are off the coast halfway to Wisconsin being eaten by alewives.

  29. I want to get this right, you are no longer allowed to make anyone feel uncomfortable?

    *types*
    *deletes*

  30. First

  31. You can make people feel uncomfortable. Just not “those” people.

  32. Alex, that is a parody, however, there are videos of black people saying statues made them “feel uncomfortable.” And of women saying certain statues of men made them “feel uncomfortable.”

  33. This is 100% true:

    Scott Adams:

    If it seems as if every one of our trusted institutions recently lost all credibility, that is an illusion. They didn’t suddenly get worse. You got smarter. Trump did that to you. It wasn’t planned. But it was predicted.

  34. I used to order cigars from JR Cigar back in the good ol’ days of snail mail. But I gave them up about fifteen years ago.

    Saturday I decided I might like to smoke one every so often so I called them, but the wait time was forever, so I just went on their website to place my order.

    Big mistake.

    Since then I have received about 20 (that’s right 20) emails from them.

    Super annoying.

  35. MJ, when are you going to give up pole smoking?

  36. Mare, that’s why I fell for it: it’s something that could conceivably happen.

  37. Dildos are technically statues, right? Ima start a movement to confiscate all dildos as
    A symbol of my opposition to the patriarchy.

  38. Pole smoking will be mandatory in the future, MJ is just trying to acquire a taste for it now while it’s still optional.

  39. Car in’s gonna fight you.

  40. Of course there will also be a “carbon credits” type scam to go with it so those not willing to sip the sausage can pay someone else to do it for them. Granted this still goes on under the table now, but in this case the payee need not have any other involvement.

    This is a potential profit center for some cities such as SF and Atlanta, and should prove quite popular in certain circles.

  41. Shouldn’t the oldest be getting close to her teenage years?

    Youngest Drunken Midget turned 10 in early April. Eldest turned 13 in late April.

    Weeeeeeeeee!!!!!

  42. If it seems as if every one of our trusted institutions recently lost all credibility, that is an illusion. They didn’t suddenly get worse. You got smarter. Trump did that to you. It wasn’t planned. But it was predicted.
    —————————
    Yeah, this makes sense. I’ve decided that institutions have been crumbling for about 50-70 years and they’re at the point where it’s impossible to hide. Because of technology and incompetence.

    I always think about James Comey as the avatar of the loser elite. He was running the FBI for chrissakes but after listening to him for less than 10 mins it was painfully obvious that he shouldn’t have been anywhere near the levers of power.

    He can’t hide that he’s a boob and because he has a smartphone he constantly tells us he’s a boob. It’s boobs all the way down.

  43. MJ, when are you going to give up pole smoking?
    ————————–
    How can you say that during Pride Month™?

  44. Honestly I’d right the whole thing up as a satirical policy brief but some damn fool would take it as a “serious, groundbreaking proposal”.

  45. I’ve been in hundreds of meetings with government types. If I were to take that job I’d instantly be the most competent and patriotic person I’ve ever met who works in non-military government employ.

    That’s not a brag on me, it’s a critical assessment of them.

  46. Write. Rite. Right. Wright. All these words got in a fight. My brain farts are outta sight.

  47. Gov’t HR: We need a skilled, dedicated worker of utmost integrity

    Interviewee: Why start now?

  48. Yeah, this makes sense. I’ve decided that institutions have been crumbling for about 50-70 years and they’re at the point where it’s impossible to hide. Because of technology and incompetence.

    Change is never gradual. It’s sudden, because over time any system accumulates fragility, hidden weaknesses, and rot which weaken it. A bridge doesn’t slowly collapse, it stands until the sudden shock which is too much for it to handle. See also: the housing market prior to 2008.

    I like to say that when evaluating people, any system of evaluation lasts three generations. In the first, you’re still working out the kinks. In the second you get an accurate assessment of your subjects. By the third everyone being evaluated has started to figure out how to play the game. See military officer evaluation reports, or the Rhodes Scholar program.

    The institutions have been rotting for 70 years because guys like Comey knew how to play the game, but at the expense of their real-world competence.

  49. I’ve been in hundreds of meetings with government types. If I were to take that job I’d instantly be the most competent and patriotic person I’ve ever met who works in non-military government employ.

    That’s not a brag on me, it’s a critical assessment of them.

    As a state government employee… I can’t disagree too much with this assessment.

  50. I haven’t felt safe or comfortable since around 1983.

    *firebombs Popeyes Chicken*

  51. No justice no pizza!

    *Firebombs a Denny’s*

  52. Change is never gradual. It’s sudden, because over time any system accumulates fragility, hidden weaknesses, and rot which weaken it. A bridge doesn’t slowly collapse, it stands until the sudden shock which is too much for it to handle.

    This is — unintentionally, given the context — a strong justification for the “punctuated equilibria” model for biological evolution rather than Darwin’s TENS.

  53. Actually, I was tempted to mention punctuated equilibria as another example, and part of what got me thinking about it. Punctuated Equilibria and the Financial Instability Hypothesis.

  54. I’ve got your pride month right here!

    *grabs rotten eggs and throws them in MJ’s face*

    (I’ve been saving these old eggs for just this type of occasion)

  55. Mmmm. Huevos.

    *firebombs bathhouse, waits for HS to run out in a towel

  56. The Atlanta thing is pretty bad.

    They’re trying really hard to make this a George Floyd but I’m not sure that’s gonna work.

    The body cam footage is pretty clear. Who looks at that and says the cop is a murderer?

  57. The body cam footage is pretty clear. Who looks at that and says the cop is a murderer?

    Your mayor, the press, the activists, the assholes looking for an excuse to riot…

  58. That’s more a reason to completely distrust those parties involved. The circle of strife, the wheel of misfortune…

    /burns down a payday loan outfit
    /realizes he’s accidentally done a good deed
    /firebombs a Bath & Beyond to recover street cred

    For some reason the description of bankruptcy happenning “gradually, then all at once” seems appropriate to the situation.

  59. For some reason the description of bankruptcy happenning “gradually, then all at once” seems appropriate to the situation.

    Same basic idea. You can go a long time, especially if times are good and credit is cheap and you can continually borrow/refinance, but you become increasingly vulnerable to any shocks.

  60. They just created more problems. This guy isn’t going to be indicted. He’ll sue the city and win.

    Oh. Now I get it.

  61. Walter Cronkite was a POS, that tells you how long our media has been garbage. Trump is ripping a lot of masks off.

  62. And now for your daily central il weather report. Stupidly nice day here, low humidity, clear bright, 70 degrees now going to 81. Forecast is for lawn mowing and car washing.

  63. I was tempted to mention punctuated equilibria as another example

    Me too!

    *punctuates Mare and throws off her equilibria*

  64. *punctuates Mare and throws off her equilibria*

    I don’t remember seeing her affirmative consent to those actions….

  65. Mare’s equilibria has been thrown off since March 2009.

  66. Hotspur speaks the truth.

  67. We should keep a list of all the things burned down by the Hostages.

    I’ll start:

    Hotspur’s mom

  68. Phragmites.

    I don’t know if they eventually stayed dead, though, since we sold the place.

  69. We should keep a list of all the things burned down by the Hostages.

    I’ll start:

    Hotspur’s mom

    Salt

  70. I’m fixin’ to write the treasury a check. Boo. On the 1040 voucher, the address is PO Box 931000. On the envelope our accountant gave us, it is PO Box 931100. Hmm, shouldn’t those be the same?

  71. Beasn, it’s the government. They’re probably both wrong.

  72. AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!

    I need inexpensive custom domain email hosting that doesn’t yank $150 out of my wallet yearly while I’m trying to keep rent paid.

    Or I just need the $150 back so I can pay my fucking rent.

    FML. I’m tired of being screwed no matter what I do.

  73. Teeth cleaning today. Pandemic changes: hand sanitizer, wear a mask except during work, social distance from other patients. The beautiful new waiting room he just put in last Winter is off limits, chairs and couches taped off. There is a symptoms check list you have to check off on- but you have to go stand outside while you fill out the form. Like literally outside, out the doors of the building. In savage nature. With a clipboard.

    Before the cleaning, I am informed that polishing (my favorite part, the one that leaves you feeling squeaky clean) is no longer allowed to be performed, except for a few of the front teeth “canines to canines,” and it’s extra. They brush your teeth instead. Apparently the whizzing polisher head can aerosolize saliva in the juicier interior portions of the mouth, so no can do.

    Also, the dentist told me that he can’t clean teeth at all right now for patients 65 years and older. I’m like, WHAT?? That is idiotic. Dentist and hygienist are on my side for all of this, thinks it’s a bunch of irrational political bullshit.

    Then I found $20 and got punched in the nards.

    *burns down the Burger King*

  74. Punch in the nards was the best part of the visit.

    I had my teeth cleaned a month ago and it was exactly like every other cleaning Ive had and it included polishing. I didn’t have a mask so I waited in my car and they texted me.

  75. I had my teeth cleaned back in 78. I almost bled out.

  76. 10/10 would get punched in the nards again

  77. I saw Teeth Cleaned open up for Bled Out at the Amphitheater back in 94.

  78. Why go to the dentist at all if they can’t do anything you couldn’t have done at home?

    Also, the SCOTUS decision is going to make Sharia attractive as an alternative. Wife is on-board with becoming Messicans any time, even though the only justice will be cartel justice. At least they don’t let grown men use the little girl’s room.

  79. Finally!

    My buddy Marcus and I can be twins. We always introduce ourselves as brothers which tends to illicit shock.

    He’s my height but with 100 more pounds of muscle. And as black as I am white.

  80. I am now legally black and female, thanks Gorsuch and Roberts!

    Off to fill out a few forms for grant money to start a minority-owned, female-owned bidness.

  81. We need a constitutional amendment imposing a sunset clause in all laws.

  82. This place is filled with racists.

  83. I’m black. I’m incapable of racism.

  84. cousin went for a bike ride and went missing. they just found his body, hit and run maybe. going to his second year at Iowa state

  85. Oh God, Jay, that’s awful, I’m so sorry.

  86. so sad but that isn’t the right word. not close, but still a relative

  87. I hope he didn’t suffer and it was quick

  88. That is absolutely horrible, Jay.

    I’m very sorry.

    I am not exaggerating when I say, I do not know a cyclist who hasn’t been hit by a car to one degree or another. So dangerous. So awful they didn’t stop and get him medical attention.

  89. Sorry Jay. Damn.


  90. I am not exaggerating when I say, I do not know a cyclist who hasn’t been hit by a car to one degree or another. So dangerous. So awful they didn’t stop and get him medical attention.

    Drunk? Illegal? Warrants out for their arrest? Just an asshole? Take your pick.

  91. Sorry Jay. Hope they find who did it.

  92. I’m so sorry Jay.

    I quite riding on the road years ago because of the danger. I hope they find the person or the person turns themselves in.

  93. https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/new-hypothesis-argues-the-universe-simulates-itself-into-existence

    They found the fun mushrooms in the park, didn’t they?

  94. Nassim Taleb has once again added a timely update to his theory that everyone but him is an idiot.

  95. I stopped reading Taleb a while ago.

  96. Jay, that’s terrible. So young. I hope the guilty party is caught.

  97. I gave up on Anti-Fragile about halfway through. Whole book could have been about 7 modest-sized blog posts. He’s done little since then to inspire me to finish reading it.

  98. Honestly, Taleb is the flip-side of the same coin as the deep state establishment, both are what’s wrong with modern society. I’d have more respect for him if he demonstrated that he could successfully manage a Whataburger in the Dallas suburbs.

  99. Yeah, he’s basically famous only for good timing on a bet for the DJIA to have a steep drop. Lots of people made that bet and got rich on it, that’s what bearish investors do.

  100. https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/new-hypothesis-argues-the-universe-simulates-itself-into-existence

    They found the fun mushrooms in the park, didn’t they?

    To be honest, every time I start hearing people bitch about epidemiology or economic models or whatever, I just remember that physicists give us shit like this.

  101. Taleb has some good ideas, but he’s basically played them out and has nothing else.

    He’s going to end up in a nursing home ranting to the orderly about black swans while they spoon-feed him pudding.

  102. I listened to a podcast the other day and the claim made was that nothing interesting has happened in physics in 50 years. They’re stuck.

    Sounded legit.

  103. If you’re really good at physics, your best bet at this point is to start a free energy scheme and rope in a credulous billionaire, then vanish.

  104. According to the accepted model of physics 96% of the universe is dark matter and dark energy, which is undetectable and almost never interacts with us. Why do they assume this? Because if they didn’t then their models of galactic behavior would be completely contrary to observed reality.

  105. Physics won’t progress until String Theory dies, I suspect. All the action right now is in materials science engineering. Coatings, graphene, structural stuff for private space, etc. None of that is new physics, but all of it is extremely important right now.

  106. Dark Matter is to physics what MMT is to economics.

  107. MMT strikes me more as a heliocentric/geocentric type of argument: fairly worthless for the average person’s day to day activities, and both sides probably ultimately wrong.

    Dark matter is just silly.

  108. I like pudding

  109. Comment by lauraw on June 15, 2020 5:35 pm
    I like pudding

    Butterscotch pudding is a wacko theory by the pastry establishment to try and cover up the holes in the general theory of dairy deserts. It’s never been observed in real life.

  110. Y’know it occurs to me I should have my tax withholding ended, since it’s effectively financing an illegitimate government. Then I recall that it doesn’t much matter how legit the government is when the prisons they can toss you in are all too real. Fuck my cowardice.

  111. Can you even do that, 0% withholding? It’s an idea I’ve had as well, but more along the lines of being an independent contractor working for straight cash homie.

  112. I checked after thinking about it. If you had a full refund last year and expect one this year, then and only then can you go no withhold. Honestly the practice should be abolished but hey, DC’s gotta get their vig.

  113. Condolences, Jay.

  114. We’re not IB. WE ARE HOSTAGES! Take that smarty pants stuff to a blog that understands WTF you guys are saying. (I like arroz dulce)

  115. My boss at the bakery back when I was on min wage +$0.35/hr suggested I just write in 14 dependents/exemptions/whatever since my tax rate was likely to be negative anyhow. I didn’t, and instead got a $1k refund the next year without having had it to invest or earn interest.

  116. Pretty sure this is the location of Irish Outlander.

  117. Oso, General Theory of Relativity is at stake with the Dark Matter/DarkEnergy bullshit, but no one is brave enough to de-throne Einstein, and no one has a better answer that can gain ground yet.

    I like cheese.

  118. Yikes, Jay. I’m so sorry.

    My son is big into biking. BIG. He’s got radar on his bike but it stills scares me.

  119. Mr. B. called the accountant. They said to send it to wherever the voucher said.

    We’ve got an amended part to send off too but Imma wait a little longer. F*ckers.

  120. Fast-talking guy’s uncle-cousin showed up today to paint the roof. Looks good.

  121. I need a Leon/CoAl translate. Paste is tasty.

  122. *rubs grape jelly into Oso’s hair*

    you’re pretty

  123. Mare likes caulk.

  124. Oso, that schmaht guy named Einstein (who was a total Einstein, so it was fitting he was named that) came up with this theory about space and time. It predicted that the universe had to have a shit-ton more stuff in it than we can see now that we have cool space telescopes ‘n’ shizz. The current bullshit fudge factor for that is basically a non-luminiferous aether that they call “dark matter” and “dark energy” because we can’t see anything but it’s just gotta be there because otherwise Einstein was wrong.

    MMT is Modern Monetary Theory, which is “nah, it’ll be fine” combined with printing new money to cover old debts.

  125. I can’t help it, Critical Drinker’s catch phrase is infectious, and so fitting to so many things.

  126. Windows need licking.

  127. The primary question is whether we can achieve travel between the spheres by melting down magic items in the forge of a flying boat.

  128. The chipmunks had a bad day today.

    I eliminated a good portion of their tunnel system.

  129. I need some dynamite, and the neighbors to go on vacation.

  130. I’ma bit at loose ends for media viewing.

    Tried to watch’barksins’on NG.

    Hard to decide who to root for when you want all three sides to lose.

  131. Sorry, J’Ames.

    Daughter in law bought a Trump 2020 flag to hang at the gate. Could be interesting.

    I remember when I was in 7th grade I read that most of science is theory. They can’t really prove a lot of it. I recently read that they don’t know for sure why airplanes fly. Theoretically the longer top surface of the wing creates lower pressure……but….planes can fly upside down….

  132. The Wright brothers couldn’t.

  133. You can only fly upside-down with ailerons to essentially invert the wing shape by bending it, iirc.

    That said, “science” that doesn’t involve an actual experiment (not a simulation, an experiment) is just building castles in the sky. Engineering a product is the true test of any theory.

  134. I was wondering today….what if you came across a huge scandal that would really damage the Left? Who could you tell? FBI, the press, anybody in government would bury it and ruin you. I

    *Narrator: He didn’t come across a scandal of any type, and knows nothing about anything.*

  135. You send the tape to Tucker and Matt Taibbi and tell them both that you sent it to the other, then wait to see who blinks.

  136. Leon, I have done inverted flight a few times on purpose in the T-37 and T-38. The fuel systems allowed it, but were not designed for it.

  137. In combat there is no tactical reason for you to spend time inverted. Meat sack 1.0 always looses to the laws of physics.

  138. Is it just the attack angle that generates the lift in that instance, then? I’d guess the wing is just a teardrop cross-section on those, so the critical thing would be getting the angle right.

  139. I’ve seen Fokkers flown inverted, but it was always brief, and never to gain altitude, so I assumed it was a trick of momentum that could be done for an air show, but would eventually cause a stall.

  140. Nope, it’s all thrust for jets.

    you can change wing shape by extending flaps, but that’s primarily to reduce stall speed and reduce landing speed.

    The acro planes have special fuel pumps to pressure feed Whilst inverted.

    Big difference between props and jets..

  141. No amount of thrust generates lift unless it’s pointed at least partially down. The only way a wing can generate lift “upside-down” is if it’s not actually 180 degrees inverted, but slightly less than that, so that the flattest profile of the top of the wing is parallel to the ground. I get that fuel-pumping systems are built with a “gravity is in the same direction as the landing gear” bias, and drag is likely higher in an inverted stance, but the wing still has to generate upward force via forward motion, and that only works if the air pressure above the wing is lower than the pressure below it, which in practice means faster above and slower below, based on how the profile of the wing attacks air through which the thrust element pushes it.

  142. Your mom loves thrust while inverted.

  143. I’ve seen some of the new g-suit designs and they look cool.

    The version I wore was only abdomen and below.

    Only for positive GeForce’s. I think they were rated for about 6 G’s?

    I pulled 6-7 G’s as a 21 yr old pilot and it was crazy fun. I really never want to do that now.

  144. Leon,

    You’re not taking the elevator into the equation.

    I’ve been inverted a few times.

    Look at acro planes, all have huge elevator surfaces.

  145. I pulled 6-7 G’s as a 21 yr old pilot and it was crazy fun. I really never want to do that now.

    ======

    Your passengers might……

  146. *rubs grape jelly harder*

  147. Laura, you’re going to go blind if you keep that up.

  148. Made it home from the wedding, took a while to find a mouse trap we’d forgotten about (3 guesses on why we were looking for a mouse). Pinky swear to post pics later (I look fat in all of them, rah). Kids are off on their honeymoon. New in-laws are pretty cool. We met one of Mini-me’s friends for lunch yesterday on Delmar Boulevard, and I got a little freaked out by all the boarded-up shops.

  149. Apparently there was a protest planned for Friday, so some of the businesses boarded up as a preemptive measure. That also explains some of the posters on the non-boarded up stores. We rolled our eyes at “White Silence is Violence”.

  150. They don’t want to hear what I have to say. I promise.

  151. Was that in the Delmar loop? Very blue, very ‘progressive’, very woke, area.
    I avoid the city. I only go to St. Louis for weddings and funerals. Or meat-ups.

  152. Doctors extracted Reed’s pancreas.


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