Could this be a play on words to suggest girls with large mammary glands? Could it be literally, girls with guns? The answer is below the fold. You’ll just have to ‘continue fapping,’ to find out.
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I hope you all had a loverly Christmas and got all of the gifts you wanted. It is cold in Illinois, and the hat that I received from my secret santa has been quite useful. So far, no one has noticed that reindeer humping, which has been kind of fun. Either that or they’re being polite. I’m going to guess it’s the former, not the latter.
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Please to be enjoying some Metric:
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Since you’ve all been good this year, there will be no test. I will note that the second to last picture features my favorite weapon, the Glock G17. I have a modified version of this gun called the G17C which has a compensated barrel, greatly reducing the kick, and allowing for very rapid, accurate fire. It’s pretty cool to shoot in the dark too, because you can see fire shoot out of the cuts in a ‘V’ pattern…like so: BOOM!
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Enjoy the coming weekend and polish off those leftovers. Please send all extra pie to me or Dave. I hear Dave enjoys a good pie. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas and a happy pre-New Year to you, Hostages.
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Maybe top 42.
SCARY BLACK GUNS! PREVENTING ME FROM ENJOYING BBF!
Ok, not so much.
Combining three of my favorite items: boobs and guns.
Not a Top !0, but other than the first angel wing girl, delivers on the promise of BBF-Girls with Guns.
Merry Christmas MJ.
I wonder if Lucy Pinder has a picture with a gun.
Why yes. Yes she does.
Wakey wakey
It’s too early for boobs.
^^^
A day late but I’m not a complainer
Oh yes she does!
Off to the dump to drop off several bags of trash before the rush. We had crappy weather last weekend and the dump was closed for three days because of their schedule and Christmas Day. It’s going to be a mob scene!
If you put it in your pickup uncovered and drive fast, you won’t have so much to unload when you get there.
You’re welcome!
/Mayhem from the Allstate ads
Song to go with this post.
ROamy I want to put a picture of the hat up, but every one I take with me looks horrible. Perhaps I’ll put it on one of my beautiful daughters and do it that way.
There will also be Resurrection, in which a Roman soldier is sent to investigate Christ’s death. It has been likened to “Gladiator, with a mystery bent”.
Hmmm, that one sounds pretty interesting.
from here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10537680/Biblical-films-Hollywood-comeback.html
Hollywood finally figuring out it’s not wise to piss off a large portion of your potential viewers?
Utensil to go with this post.
http://tinyurl.com/ojg8wf2
I also notice it’s a British newspaper, not a US one.
Huh, getting a message that rightwingnews.com has expired. Someone wake up John Hawkins, stat!
Up-twinkles!!!
Underboobage wow helloooooo
underboob vs. sideboob.
DISCUSS!
*off to a meeting*
Morning, children. Nice change-up MJ.
From the previous poat, I actually know a guy named Dudley. He’s not a kid though.
G17C which has a compensated barrel, greatly reducing the kick
I’m too lazy to google, but wouldn’t this negatively affect ballistics, velocity, penetration, etc?
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I’m too lazy to google, but wouldn’t this negatively affect ballistics, velocity, penetration, etc?
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Yes, but it’s worth it. I have it loaded with eagle claws so it really doesn’t matter. It would take off an arm. I will probably be shopping for a larger caliber soon, though. My dad just got a .40 that’s pretty nice and I’ve been thinking about it for a while.
Suggestions? I’m way too lazy to read the gun threads.
Just get a bazooka.
I haven’t shot the .40, but I really liked the Springfield XD in 9mm. Fit my hand really well.
http://www.ballistics101.com/springfield_xd40_review.php
Get a cannon.
Bitches love cannons.
Insert snappy comment here: ___________________________
[Predictable slam on hotspur with requisite typo]
Heh, love how the comments are “corrected” occasionally.
You can correct them?
Heh, from the Duffel Blog:
“Dead AK-47 Inventor To Be Buried In Mud For A Week, Cleaned Off, Then Put Back To Work”
Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/12/mikhail-kalashnikov-dead/#ixzz2ogq2yko2
Just because some woman told you that she wants a man with a cannon…look, just, never mind.
Yes, Car in, you can correct comments.
It’s not my fault WordDoodieHead thinks I’m typing code when I use the arrow bracket thingies.
I correct comments all the time. You’d be shocked at how these people talk without my help.
Just because some woman told you that she wants a man with a cannon…look, just, never mind.
I’m quoting. It’s obscure.
I never correct other people’s comments.
Correcting comments is cheating.
(and yes, I knew you could do that, I was funning)
I mostly fix Colorado Alex’s ham-fisted attempts at italics.
I knew you knew that I knew you could correct comments.
I was funnen 2!
(better not correct [i]that![/i])
I don’t correct mostly because I’m too lazy.
I don’t correct because that’s the way it’s supposed to work!
*holds back comment correcting finger twitch*
I correct because you people aren’t the brightest knives in the box.
Hello, my name is Jay in Ames, and I dont’ correct.
*hi jay!
don’t
Who are you calling “you people”?
Blowe me
This could get ulgy!
Who are you calling “you people”?
If I have to explain that, you’re clearly one of them.
I correct mine and I don’t give a crap what YOU people think.
Finally. Someone has been arrested and charged with a hate crime for the knockout game. Eric Holder is ON this.
Sew, why wood people need two correct comments? Awl my words hear are spelled correctly. Eye mean, sum people just half to much thyme on there hands.
I correct mine and I don’t give a crap what YOU people think.
*judges Mare
The Knockout Game only exists when the perps are white.
You guys correct other people’s comments? That explains why xbrad is occasionally funny.
You guys correct other people’s comments?
Only the obsessive among us, Lauraw.
Isn’t that one of the main points of the Knockout Game, the racist angle? That’s what I was led to believe.
68 times a black perp hits a white or black person…nothing to see here…
One time a white person hits a black person…HAYTE CRIME!!!!eleventy!!1!!
I have to thumbs down this poat. There are no pictures of girls with gun tattoos.
I love me some racism in the morning…it smells like…Detroit! ((Coughs convulsively))
J’ames, blacks can’t be racist, so it’s not a hate crime when they do it.
duh.
Jewstin is commenting about goils? I thought he was on the other team?
But now that he mentions it, how did you find five models with no visible tattoos? That alone is remarkable.
Polar Bear Hunting is just a myth, Jay. That phrase has never been used in any context other than an egregious environmental crime against an endangered species.
You mean this one, mundane?
http://gawker.com/racist-arrested-after-breaking-important-knockout-game-1490171488
I have to thumbs down this poat. There are no pictures of girls with gun tattoos.
Christmas Abbot has a nice one on her right hip (and some good photos of her with her 1911), but she’s sort of the opposite of BBF material.
Super hot, though.
I only correct mine.
That explains why xbrad is occasionally funny.
**Calls Eric Holder to complain about Laura playing the Knockout Game**
Hey, Mare, correct this.
Gawker commentors make YouTube comments look smart.
No entiendo ni una palabra.
Gawker
commentorsmake YouTubecommentslook smart.Corrected
J’ames, I already linked that story. Not gawker, of course. Because I’m a serious person.
Well then!
*slams door
Thanks, Paul Ryan, you pathetic politician. Really? A budget that cuts veteran benefits? Really?
You’re a hack and a sellout and a tool.
I thought someone, somewhere was going to fix that part of the budget. Naw, no one with enough balls to stand up to Schumer.
Ni una palabra, MCPO? Lo siento.
No racist talking.
We speak American on this blog.
Worse yet, outsmarted by Patty Murray! Not even a top of the line used car snakeoil salesman!
It’s not a tax, it’s a FEE! *spit
Yeah, Patty Murrah, voted the dumbest senator and Ryan couldn’t (or probably more like it, wouldn’t) outsmart her.
Good luck with any further political aspirations, Ryan, you dick.
Hotspur is oppressing my adopted culture.
How am I supposed to emigrate to Messico if I don’t practice?
I’m just practicing. If Boehner, Pelosi and Reid get their way this year, you better be able to speak Spanish!
Watching Ryan outright lie to America on Fox News. What. A. Fucking. Tool.
Amen, MCPO.
We’re going to be paying a buttload of cash to change signs, add more Spanish speaking teachers, etc., etc..
Quiero comprar un coche usado, mi amigo.
Ryan? Christie? Huckabee? Who’s the ass from Utah? Johnson? whatever. This is the best we can do?
Please run Cruz.
Forget it. Messico isn’t far enough.
*reads up on Chile*
Chief, if Ryan’s selling the car, walk.
And I mean “run” as in run away from the rest of these tools.
Can you see my shocked face?
http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/27/obamacares-pajama-boy-i-am-a-liberal-f/
MJ, go with the .40. Great combination of mag capacity & stopping power.
I carry a .40 cal. H&K USP Compact and highly recommend it. The Springfield XD line is also nice, as is the Glock if that’s what you’re used to.
I also have a Glock 23 in .40. Nice pistol, but I never have gotten used to the grip angle and my natural point of aim with it is always high as a consequence.
“I also have a Glock 23 in .40. Nice pistol, but I never have gotten used to the grip angle and my natural point of aim with it is always high as a consequence.”
I love my Glock 19, however, I too have to compensate angle when shooting for exactly the same reason. I’m use to it now. The Springfield XD (9 mm) is a nice little number too.
““How do you know if someone does CrossFit? Oh, don’t worry. They’ll tell you.”
My sister just sent that to me.
Carin, I heard the same joke but for a vegan.
Carin, I have the same theory about lawyers. Meet one for the first time, and within the first five minutes it’s out of their mouth. Like clockwork.
At least hearing about cross fit is interesting.
amiright?
No hablo español. No hablo border messican. No matter what Dan says, I don’t say “Reever”, but I have said “Shampions”. I don’t say “Bueno bye” or “Orale, vato”
About as interesting as hearing about Wiser’s cover theory.
Good morning, everybody!
I went dancing last night, the first time in over a year that I’ve been able to do a lot of waltzing. One of the things I miss about Portland is the dancing scene here is better than anywhere else. Very friendly people and always something going on.
At least hearing about cross fit is interesting.
The injury stories always amuse me.
At least hearing about cross fit is interesting.
amiright?
No.
Carin, I have the same theory about lawyers. Meet one for the first time, and within the first five minutes it’s out of their mouth. Like clockwork.
At least in those cases you usually ask someone, “What do you do?” sometime in the first few minutes.
The Scandi post is up!!!!! One of my all time favorites.
I only tell people what I do when they ask.
I then describe it in terms that discourage further conversation on the matter.
I only tell people what I do when they ask.
As is normal for most people, except lawyers, and to a little bit lesser extent doctors.
Órale, vatos.
Wait, what?
When I grow up I’m going to be a crossfit vegan lawyer.
At least hearing about cross fit is interesting.
The injury stories always amuse me.
Oh, it’s true. Crossfit folks do get injured. One guy is out because he wrecked his rotator cuff pitching /baseball. Our trainer is out because she hurt something/pulled a muscle coughing.
What do these event have in common? Yep. Both are crossfitters.
When I grow up I’m going to be a crossfit vegan lawyer.
That sounds like an SNL skit.
*pulls muscle brushing teeth
I guess I can’t blame CrossFit.
Idiom. You lift your chin when you say it and duckface your lips. It loosely means “what’s up guys?” If you’re mad-dogging when you do it, it’s a challenge.
I have two friends who have pulled something in their chest from coughing in the last week.
Coughing – more dangerous than crossfit.
I’ll start a list.
Did you guys see the amusing articles about how Michelle and Barry are supposedly in separate bedrooms?
He snores, and she farts?
A single bedroom could hardly contain both egos.
I bet she farts.
The word is that their marriage has been a struggle for years (I mean honestly – all that golfing? ) And that his recent behavior was beyond the pale. I dunno. I just find it funny.
The article says they will remain married while he is in the white house, then he’ll move to Hawaii and she’ll remain in DC while the kids finish school.
Which jives with predictions that she stays there to begin her political career. Especially if HIllary wins in 2016.
*I just threw up a little bit in my mouf
Did you guys see the amusing articles about how Michelle and Barry are supposedly in separate bedrooms?
Saw that. I don’t think they’ll get divorced, but after they leave the White House it wouldn’t surprise me if Michelle and Barry make Hillary and Bill look like a couple of 16-year-old lovebirds. He’ll find some cushy international speaking gig, probably with a side gig taking on roles in Hollywood, while she’ll move to NYC or LA and spend all her time with a “trainer”.
It’s also possible that Reggie gets bitchy when she’s around too much.
Idiom. You lift your chin when you say it and duckface your lips. It loosely means “what’s up guys?” If you’re mad-dogging when you do it, it’s a challenge.
Um, guy who grew up in the L.A. area here (RAYDERZZZZ!). The “wait, what?” was because you said you didn’t say it.
I can almost find sympathy in my cold black heart for anybody marrying that battle axe.
I couldn’t, except not for HIM. TFG deserves her.
Oops! I forgot that I don’t say it. Much.
She’s only staying with him so he won’t eat the dogs.
Maybe she’s upset about all the sex he has with their daughters.
I mean dogs. Stupid autocorrect.
Or that he lets Harry Reid have turns with them on weekends.
>> Thanks, Paul Ryan, you pathetic politician. Really? A budget that cuts veteran benefits? Really?
If he had proposed the same “slower rate of increases” (because it isn’t a cut) for *all* federal employees in addition to military, I wouldn’t have said boo.
Also, I love the HK .40 but I am studiously avoiding yet another caliber of ammo.
Dangit.
If by “dogs” you are referring to the male staffers, I think you may be right.
For one, you would have been hard-pressed to see Ethan on the UW campus without a beautiful, I mean beautiful girl on his arm. A smart, kind, and funny guy would have to work pretty hard to be unattractive,” the friend added.
Srsly? I was not a troll in college and I would have found that little douche a little hard to be around. And by hard, I’d want to punch him in the vag.
Knew a guy like that and he belched in my ear as I returned my tray to the tray window, after lunch.
I got out of be for this?
Beautiful on the UW campus? We’re not exactly talking USC or FSU here. Just sayin’
Comment on FB, Treacher thread about same story and regarding doucheboy:
“That’s the natural look of the leftist beta male. No styling required.”
Exactly.
I see one of those prissy-assed jerks, and run in the direction of a wildman rednecking Robertson-type man.
What is that from, beasnsnsnsnssss?
*corrects the timing of my poat
That’s from my DC link up yonder, Jay, which I grabbed from Insty.
Did anyone tell anyone else to pah-rum-pah-pum-pum today?
Haha, ace reposted the Scandi thread.
He also posted the hilarious video of that fucking ponce, Piers Morgan getting repeatedly knocked on his ass.
Now if we could just get Ed Schultz to face Justin Verlander.
I’m teaching my daughter how to box
A punching bag with an image of Ethan’s head would be helpful
And maybe put Martin Bashir in the net against Sergei Fedorov. :)
Now if we could just get Ed Schultz to face Justin Verlander.
And maybe put Martin Bashir in the net against Sergei Fedorov.
*buys tickets
*pops popcorn
You have GOT to see it. It hysterical!
The comments are gold, too.
I’d rather they face Amanda Hardin.
Let me tell you how good some people are.
Last year, as my crappy little netbook was dying, one of my readers offered to send me a (slightly used) laptop computer. And did so, and declined payment, even for shipping.
So, it turns out XSis1 will be having surgery next month, and is facing a lengthy convalescence, with about 2 months of enforced bedrest. But all she has is a desktop computer. So this same reader (now co-author) is sending yet another laptop so she’ll be able to stay in bed and still access the internet.
It’s amazing that there are still great people out there.
Do you get the feeling that that guy kinda took aim at the ponce? Audience enjoyed it.
Wow xbrad, that is a very kind thing to do.
>> Do you get the feeling that that guy kinda took aim at the ponce?
Uh, yeah. Every time. That wasn’t just a little chin music.
If you can get it over the plate at 94mph you can damn sure hit a rib. And a head. And a wrist…
I don’t hablo Messican. Yo hablo Espanol!
I pissed off a lady at work by making fun of “Mexicans making posole with canned hominy.” She was madder about being called a Mexican, than the fact she and Yolanda were being lazy.
English, motherfucker! Do you speak it?
English, motherfucker! Do you speak it?
Occasionally, you barely literate twatwaffle.
**invites MCPO to play the role of Peirs Morgan in a cricket match**
Piers
/Hotspur
Hmmm, girls with “guns” could be the regular MMM thread.
Do you mean in the “this is my weapon, this is my gun” sense, Pepe?
Don’t surround yourself with yourself. . .
**waits patiently for funneh**
“If he had proposed the same “slower rate of increases” (because it isn’t a cut) for *all* federal employees in addition to military, I wouldn’t have said boo.”
I agree.
If you increase anything for welfare reciepients, benefits for illegals etc., then the veterans MUST be off the table.
**waits impatiently for funneh**
**waits impatiently for funneh**
Check the mirror.
xbrad shaved his balls for this?
Let’s be honest, Mare, I shaved ’em for my own amusement.
Delete those pics when you’re done.
On it, xbrad.
(The deleting, not your balls)
I’m slightly embarrassed to say that I LOL’d at that clip. I think it was the dog part.
xb.. you’re feeling me.
It’s about slowing down the growth of the leviathan that buys votes with our money. I don’t diss vets, you know that.
But let’s get a handle around this gargantuan government that exists to bloat the debt to keep people in power. Across the board, not just our veterans.
The GOP putting DoD/veterans money on the table takes away one of the Dems traditional tools for twisting arms for increased spending.
It’s a hell of a lot easier to argue to slow down welfare when you say even wounded vets are getting hit.
It sucks for you guys that get VA/DoD money, but there it is.
And no mare, I’m sorry to say, veteran pensions are not off the table.
We have created a system that is pure federal government for them too, just like GM did for union workers. It’s the same damned thing.
Whatever enterprise you chose to pursue as a human and a free American involves some sacrifice and risk. The armed services more than others. Create a system where they can contribute to their retirement. I know too many double dippers and I’m not impressed. I don’t blame them for taking it. I blame us for giving it.
It’s the same damned thing.
Really? I think not.
Sorry to gore your ox. You were a federal employee.
My friend carries the Glock .40 compact version regularly and I’ve shot it a few times at the range. Personally it was a bit snappy for me and hard to find my follow up shots on target. I have an XDm in 9mm from Springfield Armory and like that. Plus what Dave said about yet another caliber.
What about the 50 cal Derringer?
And everybody’s ox is gonna get gored, I think.
I’m not picking on you MC, you know I respect you.
But the government we all claim must shrink built up a system of lifelong benefits and pensions that it could never pay.
I do not think this is in the spirit of Lincoln’s “we must care for his widow and his orphan”. It grew far larger than that.
“It’s the same damned thing.
Really? I think not.”
Same thing? Huh, can’t imagine a couple of tours in Iraq/Afghanistan the same as a government job in an office.
Vets are overpaid and their benefits are excessive. Just like those union guys and welfare recipients.
mare, count on your fingers and toes the number of the three and a half million in uniform who never went into the AOR.
Go ahead. I’ll wait.
I have stated that combat vets, especially the wounded, deserve compensation and care. But we have a few million veterans who did JOBS and retired after their twenty and didn’t risk so much as a paper cut who are on a pension and lifelong health care, including their dependents.
It is no different than union organized fender shapers. And it is government led, designed bullshit to buy votes with checks.
This is part of the problem. It’s all hunky dory to shit on expansive government until it hits *my* pursebook.
Well, Dave.
Then the military pay scale is going to need to be adjusted so that those in “jobs” make the same as the federal employees and “civil-service” workers doing the same level tasks.
They make shit-wages on active-duty, because they will get “the rest’ in their retirement.
As it stands now, they could get out after one hitch and go to work for the FAA, FCC, or any other TLA and make more money as well as getting a better retirement.
Service is a ‘hardship’ job. They (not all) spend half of their life away from home and family. Meing in ROK for 14 months is not the same as being in San Diego for 14 months.
Whatever. Go with it…
Meing = Being
>> Then the military pay scale is going to need to be adjusted so that those in “jobs” make the same as the federal employees and “civil-service” workers doing the same level tasks.
Gored your ox too did I? Last time I checked military service since Vietnam was a choice.
Let’s set wage scales for a kid turning wrenches in a DOL vs. the local Firestone hut.
This is why we lose. “Conservatives” love shitting all over themselves about the expansion of government until it hits their wallet.
I just steamed some tamales for lunch. They were delicious.
My info is from my time in uniform. When I hit the street afterward, my “entry-level” job, feeding blank-paper in the front of printers and pulling printed paper off the back, started at three-times what I was getting from the Army.
I have no “OX” in this. Only experience.
That was in late ’60s & early ’70s. No “choice” involved.
Yes, I suppose you are right.
Serving your country in a time of need should carry a penalty.
I’m out…
This is why we lose. Privileged classes, government bennies.
You can’t touch mine.. touch theirs.
“The solution is to make federal military pay like military pay”. Except we have an all volunteer military. Just like we have an all voluntary work at Goodyear.
I’ll say one more time for people who keep skipping over this, if you served in combat for our nation, and suffered, we owe you a debt.
If you did not, you took a job that had potential risk, it did not materialize.
We really need to comprehend the difference, with respect to government.
With respect ChrisP, I don’t think you are processing my words.
Dave,
You aren’t processing mine, either. Why should you going to work for the FAA get you better pay and bennies than going to work for the USN?
I parsed your argument about the pay:
“It’s voluntary.”
So, according to you, anyone who joins the military is a sucker because the pay sucks, and you could get hurt.
Nobody should do that. If you do, it’s on you.
Got it.
Sorry I stepped into this. I did not retire from the Army.
Now, I’m stepping out.
>> So, according to you, anyone who joins the military is a sucker because the pay sucks, and you could get hurt.
Nobody should do that. If you do, it’s on you.
Got it.
You’re putting words in my mouth.
I did not say “sucker”. I did not say “one pay is better than another”.
But I’ll address that, conservative free market fan. Any pay is worth what you freely sign up for.
This is why we lose. Because when our ox gets gored free market capitalism must go!
To you privileged classes seem to be those who wore a uniform.
I do not ascribe to R. Heinlein’s definition. I rather prefer the Constitution.
“I rather prefer the Constitution.”
If you could only get TFG to agree with you, we’d really have something!
He’s a communist and he only wants a larger government boot to stamp on your face.
I’m not trying to be disrespectful of veterans. I’m only saying the same government largess that we despise for privileged government workers has largessed itself into our military retirees too.
That’s all I’m saying.
Say hey, willies.
Hey.
Oh wait. Am I a willie?
Sure, why not.
Music has amazing powers. . .
The difference between getting hired by the Army, and getting hired by the FAA is that the FAA isn’t going to hire you out of high school with no training, and pay you three times as much.
We’re kicking around some old posts at ace’s, and someone suggested this one because of the “Antacarctica Now” silly I was doing there.
http://minx.cc/?post=141899
And I saw comments from Harrison and I just got a little sad for a moment.
We have lost some friends over the years. Because we are friends and that shit happens.
It just does but I’m glad you are my friends even when I piss you off,
Dave, I know what you mean. Lost a dear internet friend a year ago tomorrow.
Really really miss him.
Good evening window lickers and poon snorkelers.
Xbad,
You could get out of my high-school with an A&P certificate at 17.
FIF’s don’t seem so F anymore when they pass away.
Harrison, Cranky, Crowe, Patty Ann…
Who else?
Crowe? I think he’s in jail.
He’s dead to me.
Federal prison. That’s what Cyn said, anyway.
When I was quitting smoking, I often reflected on the night Harrison gave me a ration of shit for lighting up. I think it might have been the night Dave fell in the ocean.
I got better Scott.
Dave,
Holy Shit! I remember that thread:
“Antarctica, shit. I’m still only in Antarctica. Every time I think I’m going to wake up back on the ice floe. When I was home after my first tour, it was worse. I’d wake up and there’d be nothing… I hardly said a word to my wife until I said yes to a divorce. When I was here I wanted to be there. When I was there, all I could think of was getting back into McMurdo. I’ve been here a week now. Waiting for a mission, getting softer. Every minute I stay in this tent I get weaker. And every minute Charlie squats in the snow he gets stronger.
Each time I look around the tent flaps move in a little tighter. “
HA! I remember too.
PLV was a classic.
I can’t believe Cool Facts About Dick Cheney hasn’t been retconn’d yet.
I loved the Democratic Presidential nominee D&D character post. A friend mentioned it during the election but it wasn’t until three years later when I was out of college and in the Army that finally read Ace of Spades.
Did he repost the Whore-A-Thon yet? That was the first thing I ever read there.
That was very early days for me too, Sean. I think Paul Anka came pretty soon after that. Hooked me in good.
“I think Paul Anka came pretty soon after that.”
Gross.
The guys get shirts!
Did anybody make a maniac out of anybody else today?
Likel
Xbrad,
Was it all VOLAR when you were in the Army?
I only ask because I was in with draftees in the ’60s-70s.
When I was at artillery school at Sill we were in a classroom having a class on the M-564
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/AMMO973/sld007.htm
time fuze. It required you to set the seconds on the coarse scale on one side of the fuze, then turn it around to set the tenths-of-a-second using the log-scale on the other side.
At the end of the class, there was to be a written test. The cadre asked;
“If there’s anybody that needs help with reading the test questions, raise your hand.”
At least 15 people raised their hands.
I’m thinking:
“We’re going to trust these illiterate folks to set fuzes to shoot over the heads of our infantry without blowing them up, and they can not read?”
The folks currently in the service are WAY better educated than when we had the draft.
I was there…
Then the military pay scale is going to need to be adjusted so that those in “jobs” make the same as the federal employees and “civil-service” workers doing the same level tasks.
I forget where, but within the last week I’ve read, in connection with this issue, that military pay has improved since the Vietnam era to the point where it is competitive with private sector jobs. Of course, direct comparisons are tricky. Sure the sevice members get rich bennies like health care and subsidized shopping at the PX. But they also have to move every two years, which makes it hard for a trailing spouse to have any kind of career.
Likely, I mean.
Xbrad,
I’ll have to amend my question, as CMSG Mellinger was serving while you were. He recently retired as the “Last Viet Nam Draftee”.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/draftee-military-retires-39-years/story?id=13990440
So it goes…
Michael,
My experience is OLD, as am I.
I just know what was, not what is.
What I related was what I experienced in the late ’60s, early ’70s, as you stated “The Viet Nam Era”..
Things were different then…
Michael knows old.
He knows old like Lipstick knows Paul Anka.
Chrispy, I had a few Vietnam veterans serving with me. Of course, after the first two year tour, they were volunteers. Reenlisting several times, I’d say they were past the draft part.
Scott,
Michael also knows Romo!
Gross.
Xbrad,
You know what I’m saying about the quality of the serving folks though?
Please tell me you do.
The folks I went through training with, that had never been to school and had only tended pappys still, were pretty damned scary.
I ain’t never had no book learnin’.
Perhaps you don’t. Those folks were either, out after their hitch, or dead.
I knew a few “rocks with lips” in my time, Chrispy. Even a couple of MacNamara’s Army of 100,000.
And yes, the average guy is much brighter today. Thankfully.
But then again, as Michael noted, today’s pay is far, far more competitive than it used to be. It’s about twice what it was when I got out.
I know a couple in the Air Force who will retire soon and take home $10,000/month between the two of them for the rest of their lives. They both enlisted and then went to Officers Training School. They have had to move around from Japan to New Mexico to Florida and now Germany.
I’m not trying to make any kind of point here, just telling you what I personally know.
I don’t know no Paul Anka.
I just have the shirt. For the DNA.
Lippy!
Are they both Generals?
I mean, WTF,O?
How can this be?
And “Chair Force”?
Seriously?
Give me a name…
Mom makes more on the Survivor Benefit Plan of dad’s retirement, than Dad made on his last active duty check.
DiT, I don’t know if this is the Kiss of Death, but I agree with you. WE owe them a debt, yes. The thing is, everyone is owed something. My son is going to cost a lot of money to raise. I don’t put my hand out for half of it because I believe in paying my way. But his much maligned public school education is expensive. His sometime-school supplied therapy is expensive. When budget cuts hit education, it hits me double, because I lose pay AND have to fork over more for my son’s care.
And this is EXACTLY the same thing that went on when Alec Baldwin and Martin Bashir opened their pie-holes. No one on the conservative side said “Oh, yeah. Freedom of speech, their employer owes them a defense…” But let a conservative and likeable guy like Phil say something that gets his network’s hearts palpitating, all of a sudden it is a Free Speech thing.
So, yeah, conservatives and conservatism are not some moral high ground. My ox : goring :: your ox : goring is a false statement.
Anybody heard from George Orwell lately?
Hey Chrispy, not Generals. Husband is a Major and the wife is a few years behind him – not sure what she is. The $10,000 is what the two of them combined will have, according to what they say.
Names?! Can’t do that.
The loss of PattyAnn, and Cranky before were pretty hard.
The loss of Harrison hit me like a brick in the face. Maybe because when I last saw him he looked so good,
I don’t know. We’ve all lost some in the past couple years,, We held each other up.
That’s what friends do.
I love you idiots.
Good question, XB; did the Hate House take some kind of revenge on him?
Defined benefit plans of all kinds are going to crash and burn in the next 20 years. Boomers didn’t have enough kids to make it work, and even if they had we’ve regulated ourselves out of the sort of work that the left half of the bell curve can do for a living. Military and civil service pensions can’t be sustained any more than UAW pensions can be. Whether any of us want them to continue as-is is utterly irrelevant. Reynold’s Law will win out.
Last time I remember talking to GO had to be before Halloween.
Back atcha, Dave.
*sniff
Eric hasn’t updated his blog since before Halloween, either.
*hugs* Lips
Now I’m worried the Mrs buried him under the flagstones or something.
I thought Cyn had contact numbers for all the Hostages so we wouldn’t have another Cranky.
You mean re-buried him.
I hope she was kind enough to find some way of ending his earthbound sentence beforehand. Otherwise that’s just cruel.
George invited me to his hate house blog and now I can’t find the email or the blog.
Totally cruel, Leon.
See, if GO was on FB we would know something.
Well, he lives somewhere here in the greater Los Angeles area, so if he died, I would have heard about it.
Given two officers at 30 years each, retiring as O-4s, then you’d make over 10k a month between the two.
It’s rare as hell, but it’s possible.
So… wonder how that lump on Dave’s neck is doing?
I used to like making fun of my Dad. His 20 yr monthly retirement was less than my heroin addict cousin’s Uncle Sugar payout. Now, all 3 of her kids are on the FSA roster. Good times.
I used to like making fun of my Dad. His 20 yr monthly retirement was less than my heroin addict cousin’s Uncle Sugar payout. Now, all 3 of her kids are on the FSA roster. Good times.
An E-7 with 20 years at retirement draws <$20,000 per year in pension benefits. An E-6 at 20 years draws <$15,000. The problem isn't military pensions and benefits, it's that we're spending money on other shit as if it's morally equivalent.
We close at 8:30. Of course some douche comes in at 8:29 to buy a couch and two recliners. I was supposed to get off work at 9. I can’t leave until the last Member is gone. Dan isn’t supposed to come pick me up until I call. Can you see where this is going…?
My Dad was an E-8. In NM, Vet plates are free. We used to always pretend to make fun of his VN plates by calling them NG plates.
I’m owning the comments, it’s true.
*Sing to I’m picking out a thermos for you*
I want to punch people at the HQ in the head. N00Bs. I still like days like today where Dave at Garfield Ridge and Mrs Peel are commenting. Smells like…freedom.
how many comments
must a messican own
before you can call equality
the answer mi amigos
es blowing in the wind
yadda yadda yadda…whatev…
snicker
I think Ace should have to hang here since he’s going on hiatus with the whole 10 Yr Anniversary dealio. No twitter for you/Soup nazi
Good idear Oso.
also… I’m a boomer and I have 4 kids.. I did my part
Thank you, TGSG. I need breeders of the Conservative stripe to make up for my infertility.
*starts doing Hostage replacement math* Damn, Leon needs to step up.
A change of speed, a change of style.
A change of scene, with no regrets,
A chance to derp, admire the distance,
Still occupied, though you forget.
Too early for the Derp.
Getting cold. My pillows were exiled at 10pm. Moving to phone. TTFN
Good morning all!
Power went out for about 45 minutes last night right in the middle of us doing stuff…movie going, dishwasher, laundry….
Came right back on though!
Wakey wakey
I did my H2 replacement part Oso.
Morning, children.
I knew a lot of only children growing up, and very, very few with more than one sibling. Then we aborted 45 million and imported 20 million who rarely get above the poverty line.
Not that any of the government ponzi schemes were ever going to work, but if the boomers had had as many kids as their parents, it would have been masked for another generation.
We had a lot of family friends through the church and my dad was/is an Irish immigrant…lots of kids at gatherings.
Mornin’ Peeps
Poat of Newness
Richard Pryor addressed this issue years ago.
“Hey white people, did y’all quit fuckin?”
http://www.despair.com/mistakes.html