‘Mazin’ Monday Musclies

I’m up late, gotta be up early, so just the pics this week.

Go beat Monday up and take it’s lunch money, then buy some blue meth.

Yoga is weird.
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I hope she remembers to do this again on the other side.
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Pink shorts.
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Any further and she’ll snap.
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Nerdy girl with a good body, or a hot chick who found some glasses?
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Different girl, same question.
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Lucky wall.
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Obligatory.
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Now go make your parents less embarrassed.

388 Comments

  1. Balance beam and wall are rather hot.

  2. I’m an optimist by nature but I’m having a difficult time finding the right combination of fitness and femininity in this MMM Leon.

    ***** of these things for effort

  3. Second glasses girl is a freak. And not in a good way.

    wakey wakey

  4. Second glasses girl is a freak. And not in a good way.

    She has a bidet. I figure that comes with a certain quantity of crazy.

  5. Not even splits girl, Jimbro? I think she fills out those green shorts nicely.

  6. For Leon – http://shoebat.com/2013/06/12/them-damned-catholics/

  7. Leon, I’m guessing she is Fwench, which should disqualify her anyway.

  8. I have nothing against the French anymore. Paris changed me.

    *dons beret*

  9. I heard Obama was golfing yesterday. While the ME was in flames. Which is only ironic because Arab Spring.

    Which worked out as well as our Summer of recovery.

  10. Thanks Car in, good article.

  11. Morning children. Thanks Leon.

    Here’s a girl who might share her coffee with you.

  12. BLERGH

  13. She looks nice, Pepe. Even my type. Fortunately, I fell in love with and married a woman who looks nothing like that.

  14. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/25/mccain-graham-call-military-action-syria-chemical-/

    Republicans implore Obama blah blah blah. Yeah, all Republicans just love McCain, Graham, and Corker. Gah.

    When do we get our own media? I’m tired of theirs.

  15. I’m not eager for another war, the public isn’t clamoring for it in general.

    Let McCain et al. take their personal armies if they want one.

  16. I think phat is right on with the schedule for Syria. Although it will be on a Friday, so they will have time to “massage” the media response to an attack.

  17. Work is going to be fun today. They have been redoing the roads around my work. Today they are closing both the front and side roads. But NEVER fear, people can get into our parking lot by driving through the Meijer gas station around back.

    I’m sure this won’t affect business.

  18. I’m not eager for another war either, but this entire episode reveals the FOLLY of Obama and his foreign policy. It’s a good time to re-read his Nobel Peace Prize Press release. It’s a hoot.

    Besides, it’s amusing how many times he can release “I’m really serious” type statement about Syria.

    Oh, and 47 people died in Iraq yesterday. Good job obama, abandoning the people who trusted us.

    No one should ever trust us again.

  19. that ain’t no water fountain

  20. If he wants strikes, he can ask Congress. Let him get the votes.

  21. You can trust us for 4-8 years at a time. This isn’t one of the trustworthy periods.

  22. Good morning, peeps.

  23. Anyone else think Gabriel Macht (Suits, The Spirit) would have been a better (and cheaper) choice for Batman?

  24. Anyone else think Gabriel Macht (Suits, The Spirit)Ham Sandwich would have been a better (and cheaper) choice for Batman?

  25. Look, Jay, it’s not that you’re wrong, but I’m trying to come with a “how would I have done this better?” that isn’t the easy-out choice.

  26. I think the Batman role is a vanity move on Aflac’s part. Wouldn’t surprise me if he is paying them.

  27. Why did they kick whatsisface to the curb for Batman? Different studio?

  28. I’m not saying you’re wrong either, leon. I’m just pointing out how horrible their decision is, and how many options would be better than Ben.

    Including his girlfriend, Matt Damon, Gilbert Gottfried, Bobcat Gothwaite, Louis CK, Joan Rivers, Joy Behar, and Whoopi Goldberg.

    And I approve of HS’s spelling of his name.

  29. I think Bale probably turned them down.

  30. Why did they kick whatsisface to the curb for Batman? Different studio?

    I believe Bale turned them down, or possibly asked for his own nuclear submarine to do the part.

  31. hahahah…Bobby Riggs threw the match to Billy Jean. Poor whiney woman didn’t even earn the attention she is most known for.

  32. Louis CK,

    I would actually go and see that.

  33. Heh. Double heh.

    I saw that earlier. It will be a peaceful bike ride, they said.

    Yeah, just don’t cross their path, and it will be peaceful.

  34. *ponders starting a go-cart gang club*

  35. I wonder if we will ever hear the story of Miley Cyrus being sexually abused as a child/preteen?

    It inevitably comes sometime after she announces (once her boyfriend finally dumps her) that she is bisexual.

  36. I’ve been in DC on the National Mall on Memorial Day, and watched the motorcycles go by.

    This should be awesome

  37. Also, I would like to say that I did not think that casting Heath Ledger as the Joker was a bad idea. I thought the guy was a good actor. I do not think Ben Affleck is a good actor.

  38. I’m in, Pups.

  39. I just hope they don’t try to make Batman “sensitive” in order to work with the actor casted.

  40. Bobby Riggs threw the match to Billy Jean.

    I remember watching that match as a kid. I don’t know much about tennis, but to me his loss certainly looked legit. He seemed like he was half a step slow and tired as the match progressed, both of which were perfectly consistent with this age.

    But it would be funny if he threw the match.

  41. Drudge……HA HA HA

  42. Read the post.

    Pay attention to what the announcers were saying. RIggs was a gambler. I absolutely believe it.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/9589625/the-match-maker

    Remember he had played Margaret Court and beat her decisively not long before he played Billy Jean.

  43. HA! Good one Drudge.

  44. What the announcers were saying….during the match.

  45. I watched the ESPN deal on it last night and I had to laugh when Billy Jean says, “I know when I’m playing a match I can tell when someone wants to beat me.”

    Which is of course stupid because I’m pretty sure in professional tennis all your opponents want to beat you.

    The guy coming forward is, at least in the piece last night, very credible. Well spoken, calm.

  46. Speaking of Batman, I’m glad this topic is getting some more play:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/batman_in_love_dIgCYS1ctzTEcfvhOet6bI

  47. Medal of Honor awarded today:

    http://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/carter/profile.html

  48. I remember watching that match with my family at my parents’ house. My sister in law was cheering like crazy for BJK. She was a phys. ed. teacher, and quite competitive on the softball diamond, golf course, skiing, etc.

    After my brother died she became a lesbian.

  49. Pretty awesome, Kardashian meets Kierkegaard.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KimKierkegaard

  50. “Anyone else think Gabriel Macht (Suits, The Spirit) would have been a better (and cheaper) choice for Batman?”

    No.

  51. I sort of remember it, I mean I watched it but it’s been 40 years. Riggs just looked tired to me. And I’d never seen him look tired.

    Credible.

  52. Phys. ed and softball? She was always a lesbian.

  53. Anson Mount would have been an excellent pick.

  54. Mare! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIWLR5g0G74

  55. Oh my. They aren’t even bothering to hide it any more. The pop culture is helping enslave us.

    http://is.gd/pxYcGW

  56. Call me crazy but I’ll take yoga girl.

  57. The pop culture is helping enslave us.

    Boobs for Oboma

  58. My prediction:

    Missiles on Thursday, targets are fuel and weapons depots, and the media will think it’s fucking awesome because RED LINE (even though it was already crossed).

  59. Whose fuel and weapons depots?

    My money is on the rebels’.

  60. It doesn’t matter, just as long as there are splosions and big booms.

    Either way, it’s AWESOME!

  61. Took a long second look at splits girl Leon. You’re right, she does fill those tights nicely.

  62. So today they are sinking the waterline to accommodate hardscaping, plus digging trenches for new drains. All I can say is I’m happy we have money from the sale of the condo to finance this.

  63. HA! Good cat video scott.

  64. Phys. ed and softball? She was always a lesbian.

    Hahahahaha

    Yeah.

  65. General McInerny says it’s best to back General Riad. Also, McCain and Graham as usual are barking up the wrong tree.

  66. Sadly, in the ME the most stable institution is the military. The populace are by and large fucktards. Since there is zero history of democratic institutions in most of the ME, you can’t just overthrow the dictator and say, “OK, you’re now a democracy, go vote.”

    Which is what we did in Egypt and we got the Muslim Brotherhood. Yay Arab Spring!

  67. “Which is what we did in Egypt and we got the Muslim Brotherhood. Yay Arab Spring!”

    Exactly. Which is why I agree with General McInerny.

  68. I think it’s going to be a strongly worded letter or statement.

  69. I don’t care if we lob a few Tomahawks into Syria. Just don’t pretend it’s anything more than Obama trying to look tough.

  70. I just googled to find a Dukakis tank picture and this was up top

  71. Heh.

  72. I think Mare would probably make a great Catwoman.

  73. HA! Clint.

    “Just don’t pretend it’s anything more than Obama trying to look tough.”

    I also don’t want to see American troops die for the same reason. The Middle East is a CF and we’re not going to fix it. I liked the idea of staying in Iraq (NOT Afghanistan) to lure terrorists and their resources to an “off site” (not America) location.

    It worked, evidently, no terrorist successes in the US during that time.

  74. Miley Cyrus is a genius.

  75. Mare, in front of the guy with the blue shirt, auditioning for the role of Catwoman:

    http://tinyurl.com/k4ucray

  76. Yep, we’re all talking about that skank this morning.

  77. Miley Cyrus is a genius.

    Dude, that’s fucked up.

    Posted by: Marilyn Manson at August 26, 2013 12:42 PM (LI48c)

    The AOS thread is full of gems like this.

  78. She’s cute and she’s a really good dancer.

  79. Nice header! HAHAHA!

  80. I feel sorry for Miley, even though she has 120 million, I’ve heard it’s hard to get over sexual molestation. I feel sorry for the bears too.

  81. Good header, douches.

  82. The fact that Miley Cyrus is a discussion point anywhere is sad testament to the decreased mental capacity of the average American. *Sigh.*

  83. Present company excluded, of course.

  84. In a way, Clint, I think it’s good at least part of the country can still be shocked and disgusted by what celebrities do.

  85. I’m surprised any of the regular participants here actually watched that award show … other than MJ of course.

  86. Oh, Lord, Clint, I didn’t watch the show. I haven’t seen ANY awards shows for about 26 years. I think they are all an embarrassment to any who watch them.

    But getting your news online it’s hard to miss.

  87. Present company excluded, of course.

    hey now, my mental capacity is just as decreased as anyone else s, maybe more!

  88. Mine too!

  89. I just skimmed a few minutes of the performance.

    Honestly, it wasn’t that shocking. Her voice on the other hand…truly awful.

  90. I watched the Miley performance because the FB game was over and people were already freaking about it.

  91. Near as I can tell, Miley Cyrus has no ass.

  92. Skinny-fat.

  93. Exactly, MJ. It’s what they do, isn’t it?

    I don’t see why anyone buys their albums. Although Lady Gaga can sing, it’s just the wrapping paper that’s a put off.

  94. Heh:

  95. From Jessica Hayes talking about the Miley Cyrus video.

    Don’t watch the video. It’s like that video from the ring except you don’t die in seven days. You get herpes.
    ~Moore

  96. MJ, Jay, I think you are missing what’s shocking to a lot of people, Miley Cyrus played (and made millions) as Hannah Montana. A fun, fresh face, young girl who lived with her dad and brother. She also happened to be a singer trying to live a normal life (part of the plot line). Very wholesome. And merchandise was bought and the show watched because parents approved.

    Miley is NOTHING without Disney and Hannah Montana. She would just be another young, Hollywood slut looking for a recording contract and ironically only contracting herpes, HPV and and syphilus along the way.

  97. http://imgur.com/gallery/tC373

  98. See also: Amanda Bynes.

  99. “… it wasn’t that shocking.”

    MJ, reevaluate who you hang out with.

  100. I didn’t find it shocking. I wasn’t shocked by Madonna, or Britney, or Christina, or Eminem. Performers performing. Moulin Rouge.

  101. We are screwed as a society.

  102. MJ, reevaluate who you hang out with.
    ————————–
    I hang out with you guys.

  103. Exactly.

  104. *sad Incredible Hulk music

    Turns and walks away…

  105. A 20 year old (although this started at a much earlier age) simulating anal, oral, masterbation and sex with a pedophile or her childhood image thereof, on a TV show SHOULD be shocking to people. Oh, the anal was with Thick who is old enough to be her father. hmmmm

    But I don’t watch awards shows, so I guess you guys who do aren’t shocked because you see it all the time.

  106. Modonna is now an OLD skanky whore instead of a young skanky whore. Divorced a couple of times, dating a 26 year old and looking desperate.

    Brittany skanked out and is now divorced with a host of embarrassing public breakdowns.

    Christina the same.

    Same with eminem. Wife beater and horribly public divorce.

    Those scamps.

  107. Her stage performances have been full of imagery like this, since she started to break away from the “Hannah Montana” mold. She is competing with the Rihanna’s and the Katy Perry’s for shock value and money. Meh

  108. What did the buffalo say to his son as he left for college?

  109. “She is competing with the Rihanna’s and the Katy Perry’s for shock value and money.”

    I think that’s true.

    I wonder what this “movement” she mentioned in an interview before the awards show and on twitter meant.

  110. Mare, the audience isn’t seeing anything they wouldn’t see in any random music video. If this wasn’t formerly sweet innocent Hannah Montana, no one would express the slightest surprise.

  111. I’m highly skeptical of outrage like this. It seems 100% manufactured.

    It’s’ the Mare Rule: If Mare notices and takes offense at pop culture, you’re probably achieved your goal.

  112. I’m more concerned about the “movement” of our troops to Syria.

    Although it sounds like cruise missiles and drone stuff.

    Would UN peacekeeping troops go first if at all?

  113. Tipper Gore.

    She can blow me.

  114. MJ, you don’t have kids, either does Oso. Mine were too old to worship Miley, thank goodness (not that they would anyway).

    Anyone who doesn’t think kids emulate their celebrity heroes are crazy. See: merchandising.

    Porn is porn, shouldn’t be on an awards show by a 20 year old.

  115. “If this wasn’t formerly sweet innocent Hannah Montana, no one would express the slightest surprise.”

    Ahhhh, yes, see my comment here:

    Comment by mare on August 26, 2013 1:53 pm

  116. Isn’t there a porn awards show like the Oscars?

  117. Isn’t there a porn awards show like the Oscars?

    Yeah, I think it’s called Halftime at the Superbowl.

  118. Here, Mare. Something slightly less scandalous.

  119. I have a bigger problem with thug life and drug culture glorification. Miley has a very astute business team.

  120. …However, some have explored their revulsion over Cyrus’ actions and made fools of themselves. Take Vulture columnist Jody Rosen, for example… Through her perceptual acumen and years of scholarly training, Rosen identified historical themes of the racial subjugation of African-Americans in Cyrus’ jiggling.

    “Cyrus has spent a lot of time recently toying with racial imagery,” she adds, revealing the disturbing fact that she sees racial imagery everywhere.

    If you’re keeping score, Cyrus is “toying with racial imagery” by virtue of her being a fan of and collaborating with African-American artists and by performing hyper-sexualized dancing with one of her black backup dancers.

    I hope Jody Rosen never watches “Mandingo,” or she will bust an artery. Whether from outrage or arousal is open to question.

  121. Tipper Gore.
    She can blow me.

    Looking for love in all the wrong plaaaaaa-ces…

    Isn’t there a porn awards show like the Oscars?

    AVN Awards.

  122. Isn’t there a porn awards show like the Oscars?

    Yeah, I think it’s called Halftime at the Superbowl.

    Raising wardrobe malfunctions into high art.

  123. that was weird. for some reason, this link, which now goes where it’s supposed to go, was, instead, acting as a link to the Mares in Leotards

    http://tinyurl.com/m5n9fm8

  124. I figured out our foreign policy:

    Kill as many people as you want, just do it slowly and conventionally.

    And try to limit unconventional killing to when we’re not on vacation, mkay?

  125. Kill as many people as you want, just do it slowly and conventionally.

    Three times as many dead soldiers in A-stan under Black Nixon as under Boooosh. You will hear no outrage from the Left.

  126. Kill as many people as you want, just do it slowly and conventionally.

    You mean white people, right?

  127. White tea party conservative extremists.

    Fixted

  128. So, the NM state supreme court says a photographer has to film gay weddings.

    You cannot have a moral objection to filming something if you offer your business as a public accommodation.

    So, legally, what’s to stop someone from demanding that said photographer film a porno? Gay porn, at that?

  129. If I try to hire a photographer to film a day at the range, and he objects, can I sue?

  130. FY;NQ

  131. Oh, wait; that was probably redundant.

  132. I hope said photographer loses all the prints in a horrible christian-themed accident.

    Plague of locusts? Pillar of salt? Flood?

  133. Can I coerce a militant atheist into filming my churches services?

  134. Best suggestion I’ve heard is to sue on 13th amendment grounds.

  135. Sure, but guns are bad and scary and believing in traditional marriage makes you a H8R. See the difference?

  136. I think technically they are brown, kind of, but my point is that you’re a real fucking dunce if your foreign policy reaction is dependent upon the method by which people are killed.

    If the CiC has thinks this way, we don’t have a foreign policy at all.

    What a boob.

  137. Avenging angel?

  138. I hope said photographer loses all the prints in a horrible christian-themed accident.

    “Ooops! Sorry, but it looks like we accidentally spilled some holy water into the developing solution and, sadly, none of the pictures can be saved….”

  139. Yeah, that holy water sure is corrosive. It’s a shame it got all over those pictures.

  140. By golly. We shot the whole ceremony, and I forgot to put a memory card in my camera.

    Shucks, what rotten luck.

  141. Here’s your deposit back!

    *snicker

  142. So I saw a thing yesterday, that I can’t find now, that showed a photo of Obama next to a photo of one of the killers of the guy in Oklahoma.

    It said something like “How the media reports a story: both men were born to a black father and a white mother. Obama’s “black.” Killer is “white.” Got it?

  143. HS, check your facedouche.

  144. Oso is awesome.

  145. Aww…shucks. (Tackles Cyn and steals the H2 tiara)

  146. Hey!!!

  147. Anyone who doesn’t think kids emulate their celebrity heroes are crazy. See: merchandising.

    My daughter and her friends loved Hannah Montana. Miley being a skank, not so much. Though her one friend LOVES watching the Kardashians.

  148. So, the NM state supreme court says a photographer has to film gay weddings.

    And when a wedding guest propositions the photographer, they should stomp their feets, threaten to call the cops and a lawyer over sexual harassment. Then walk out.

  149. There are plenty of photographers in ABQ. These Christian photographers were chosen for exactly this reason.

  150. … creep… creep… creep… little liberties here and there… for the good of the children… for the good of society… because we’re enlightened… creep… creep… creep…

  151. So, my daughter and I are reaching a milestone birthday within the next 2 weeks. She’s gonna be 21, I’m going to be 30. I think I should buy her her first official drink.
    Though, Mr. Beasn should come along because this will be me..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsN8LaAMmso&t=0m58s

  152. I’m going to be 30.

    I nominate this for the Funniest Comment Ever Made at the Hostages, Bar None.

    Now excuse me while I find another keyboard to use while this one dries out.

  153. Just do it, Beasns. I’ll hold your hair for you.

  154. There are plenty of photographers in ABQ. These Christian photographers were chosen for exactly this reason…………

    … creep… creep… creep… little liberties here and there…

    Racist h8ters.
    (that is what someone called a few of us on facechimp for thinking religious folks shouldn’t have to participate in an activity that goes against their belief).

  155. Just do it, Beasns. I’ll hold your hair for you.

    I’ll have to wear a helmet because I’m more worried about a concussion.

  156. Oso and her husband in a few weeks….you have to watch close to see him……

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grAU9vLR9Cw

  157. Helmet – good thinking.

  158. I saw Helmet open for NIN in 1992 at the World Center.

  159. I wear a tankini. Other than that…pretty much.

  160. Afternoon

  161. Anthony Weiner: “When women have equal rights, our society is better off,” Weiner says in an email to supporters. “This is one of my long-held beliefs…”

    You had me at “long-held.”

  162. Today I built one (1) of these:

    http://tinyurl.com/k9u8hh3

    and three (3) of these:

    http://tinyurl.com/kqm9bnp

  163. Miley Cyrus is a national treasure.

    She’s America writ large.

  164. Weird. I thought Miley Cyrus was a skank with an autotune machine.

  165. Greetings, Mutated Monday Monsters.

  166. I’ve got some pics somewhere of Miley in wet look leggings. She’s not bad, but she’s also not anything special.

  167. Weird. I thought Miley Cyrus was a skank with an autotune machine.

    And you would be correct. Unfortunately, so is MJ.

  168. Miley Cyrus could be president.

  169. Bets Michael $20

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfuQp0Wp7Yk

  170. I heard the original Iggy Pop version of “China Girl” on the radio on my way to work. This would be an interesting case for wiser, seeing as how that was released in ’77 and Bowie’s version was released in ’83, but they co-wrote the song.

  171. Miley Cyrus could be president.

    It would certainly be an improvement.

  172. John Kerry, 2013:

    You sure this time, John? You’re not going to change your story again when things turn ugly, are you? We can trust you will hold strong this time, right, John, and not sway in the wind for your own personal gain, right, John?

    Right, John??

    John Kerry 2002:

    John Kerry 2003:

  173. >>>This would be an interesting case for wiser

    Hmmmm, I’ll have to mull this over for a bit…..

  174. If there’s a way to be feckless and cowardly, I trust John Kerry to find it.

  175. John Kerry is two degrees of separation from looking like Donatella Versace.

  176. Iggy and Bowie. They did several songs which both used.

  177. Why are you guys h8tin’ on the war hero of Vietnam?

  178. >>>If there’s a way to be feckless and cowardly, I trust John Kerry to find it.

    John Kerry, 2015:

    “I was just following orders.”

    Or

  179. Personally, I’m jealous of his Magic Hat.

  180. Guys shouldn’t have voluntary plastic surgery.

    Nuff said.

  181. >>>Why are you guys h8tin’ on the war hero of Vietnam?

    What the heck do you remember about Vietnam, Miss “I’m almost 30! SQUEEEEE!!!”?

  182. Beasn?

    http://tinyurl.com/kqdlkzz

  183. >>>Guys shouldn’t have voluntary plastic surgery.

    You assume it was voluntary?

    Teresa says “John, you’re looking a bit tired.” And zzzip! John’s on the table faster than a glass of water at Car in’s station.

    He knows which side the bread is buttered on…

  184. He should have spent her money having a dick sewn on himself,

  185. Plastic surgery and orange spray-on tan is how you know he’s classy.

  186. He knows which side the bread is buttered ketchuped on…

    For accuracy.

  187. >>>He should have spent her money having a dick sewn on himself,

    Only if Teresa wanted that. Chances are he had what little dick he had removed at her request in return for being allowed to name their latest sailboat.

  188. Yeah, I heard he wanted to name it Hotspur, but she told him there was no way he could live up to that name.

  189. Did you guys hear that Obama got bin Laden? Cuz he did.

  190. >>>For accuracy.

    If Teresa demanded if, it could have diseased ocelot shit on one side and Car In’s poison ivy pus and scabs on the other and he would eat it and smile.

    He is, quite honestly, the lowest form of life on the planet and Massholes repeatedly elected him.

    I would say how that speaks volumes about Massachusetts, but…. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy.

  191. President Mom Jeans Red Line.

  192. I heard Obama ate a dog.

  193. >>>Yeah, I heard he wanted to name it Hotspur

    That sounds like a name that a worthless, self-promoting, incompetent, pseudo-intellectual, power-hungry, coat-tail-riding douchebag would choo…….

    *cough

    Ummm… Nice weather this weekend, huh?

  194. >>>Did you guys hear that Obama got bin Laden? Cuz he did.

    Is he aware of that?

  195. He heard about during the 25th game of spades.

  196. If by “got bin laden” you mean he shot the moon in spades, while MEN got the job done, then yeah, he got bin laden.

    He also earned a Nobel peace prize.

  197. Has anyone seen Mundy? Who ran him off?

  198. He got caught with an undisclosed number of bullwhips up his ass.

  199. Heh.

  200. Okay, who wants to date Chelsea Manning?

  201. >>>Has anyone seen Mundy? Who ran him off?

    I heard he and PJ were a “thing”


  202. Has anyone seen Mundy? Who ran him off?

  203. Plastic surgery and orange spray-on tan is how you know he’s classy.

    It is a misconception that this was shot at NASA. It was shot just prior to going under the knife for a whole body makeover.

    http://bit.ly/178YotD

  204. Has anyone seen Mundy? Who ran him off?

    http://is.gd/uGn3cF

  205. You know what really pisses me off?

    They stopped the debt clock.

    If that’s not the epitome of MiniTrue, I don’t know what is….

  206. What the heck do you remember about Vietnam, Miss “I’m almost 30! SQUEEEEE!!!”?

    I’m the new 30 where you go in the other direction.

  207. Is there a downside to us just letting Arabs kill and maim each other for a couple of years without us fucking with them? I’m just asking.

  208. Xbrad: Are the top three weapons producing countries the US, Russia, and China?

  209. You know what really pisses me off?
    They stopped the debt clock.

    It’s more MiniTrue than you know.

    http://bit.ly/178ZrtB
    Washington – The US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew told Congress that he had decided to extent a measure that will allow the US to remain under the $16.7 debt ceiling. Lew is making the move because the Republicans and Democrats cannot agree on raising the debt limit…

    In reality the US debt is already more than the debt ceiling but the extra-ordinary measures simply are accounting devices used to disguise this by suspending payments that would otherwise be made.

  210. PG – No.

  211. Is there a downside to us just letting Arabs kill and maim each other for a couple of years without us fucking with them? I’m just asking.
    ————————
    No. There will be few men in the ME in about 20 years.

    Then we send in RuPaul, our secret weapon.

  212. PG, the only downside I can see is the ethnic groups I semi-care about getting caught in the crossfire, like the Copts and Beduin Christians.

    Other than that, I can’t see any reason to stop a condemned building from collapsing.

  213. Is there a downside to us just letting Arabs kill and maim each other for a couple of years without us fucking with them?

    It is hardly a question of “downsides;” they seem quite determined to kill each other whether we are there or not. They seem to have a talent for it.

    I say let a people do what it does best.

  214. They make great rugs over there

  215. There would be no new Middle Eastern disco songs that sound exactly like all other Middle Eastern disco songs for Lebanese restaurant owners to pipe into their dining rooms.

  216. One word: Ululation

  217. Top Round Roast $1.99 per lb.

    We will have 7 lbs of roast beef in a few days.

  218. >>>This would be an interesting case for wiser

    Hmmmm, I’ll have tomull this over for a bit add a whole 17-room wing to Wiserbud’s Metastasizing Mansion Of Exceptions To His Cover Song Theory…..

  219. There would be no new Middle Eastern disco songs that sound exactly like all other Middle Eastern disco songs

    We could make that one solitary Middle Eastern disco song last for decades and no one would be the wiser.

  220. Dare I ask the precise nature of Cover Song Theory according to Swiss patent clerk Wiserbud?

  221. We can start with the original folly, which is an old post on IB. Trying to pull it up but can’t find it. Anyone?

  222. and no one would be the wiser.

    Would anyone be the wiserbud?

  223. Would anyone be the wiserbud?

    Would anyone
    1: dare?
    2: want to?

  224. Here’s one post on it at Mothership.

    http://minx.cc/?post=322090

  225. MJ, sorry I didn’t answer your question. I was lounging by the pool, enjoying the first non-blistering-hot day in months.

    The US is far and away the biggest arms producer. After that, I’m actually not sure of the order, the the next for are Russia, China, Great Britain, and France. And I’d not be a tad surprised if GB or France was in second.

  226. We can start with the original folly, which is an old post on IB. Trying to pull it up but can’t find it. Anyone?

    I’m prolly gonna regret this:
    http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/the-most-covered-rock-song-ever-2/#comment-205313
    and then…
    http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/please-make-it-so/

    Damn my google-fu.

  227. Ah, I see the kernel of the Cover Song Theory. However, does it work in a sort of inverse way when applied to cover bands? I mean, those small time bands who play state fairs and sports bars covering popular songs. What if they start playing original music they wrote themselves? Does this mark the end of their honky-tonk careers?

  228. Did anybody send anybody else a singing telegram today?

  229. Furthermore, what if you cover a song by a fake band? For example, if a band covers a Milli Vanilli hit, does it doom the band or is it a false positive?

  230. Oh, lordy reekus. I can’t believe Laura mentioned Folly. Shall we have an roll call of other former denizens who got butthurt and fled these happy halls?

  231. I’ll just leave this here…

  232. GO, most bands start out playing covers.

    Some then hit it big with original songs.

    Some then revert back to covers.

    When they do, it pretty much signals the end.

  233. Unless their name is Pat Green or something like that.

  234. >>>I’ll just leave this here…

    Thanks, that’ll help…

  235. Mr. Orwell, there is an exception for that! Always. Cover Song Theory does not apply to:

    *Motown
    *Country Music
    *Bands that started out doing covers
    *Bands that may have been popular by sheer number of fans and sold albums, but were ‘not popular enough’ at the time they did the cover, as judged solely by Wiserbud
    *OK, fuckit. Anything recorded before 1972 is OUT
    *Any cover recorded by a hit artist who had not had a hit lately
    *Any cover that does not become a hit for the coverer, or if the original song was not a hit for the original artist

    Basically, Wiser has been on the ropes for this theory for three years but he steadfastly refuses to acknowledge anybody’s good points, simply dismissing them as exceptions to his very good, all-encompassing, ironclad Theory.

    Which is why it won’t die and we have to continually razz him about it.

    Cover Song Theory, is Wiserbud’s Spring Awakening. It’s *awful.* But what’s really funny about it is, he will not yield a millimeter.

  236. most bands start out playing covers.
    Some then hit it big with original songs.
    Some then revert back to covers.
    When they do, it pretty much signals the end.

    This is known as the Big Bust Theory of Cover Songs. The speed at which bands recede from our location in the musical galaxy is known as the Wiserbubble constant.

  237. But what’s really funny about it is, he will not yield a millimeter.

    Wait… are you saying Wiserbud is metric? He’s a commie?!?

  238. That sounds an awful lot like math, GO.

    *scowls*

  239. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeDtmbt4JS4

  240. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT1rlNQARdA

  241. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGCxo2HLuYA

  242. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRgcwT9X2J8

  243. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVFhmsku6Lo

  244. I can do this all day. There must be an Eric Clapton Clause.

  245. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zufYHlNIaAo

  246. >>>But what’s really funny about it is, he will not yield a millimeter.

    I have always been happy to calmly and intelligently discuss my theory with anyone, and certainly be willing to entertain any reasonable arguments re: my theory.

    To date, I have not encountered any, other than possibly The Clapton Codicil

  247. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuoj4eyCMWo

  248. >>>Basically, Wiser has been on the ropes for this theory for three years but he steadfastly refuses to acknowledge anybody’s good points, simply dismissing them as exceptions to his very good, all-encompassing, ironclad Theory.

    Right.

  249. Oh man, I am reading that old thread and laughing my ass off.

    #87: This is what is known as “refining” the theory.

  250. Aquatic Ape Theory holds more water at this point. Not a pun.

  251. The ACA is the gift that keeps on giving.

    My son’s physical therapist is no longer going to put up the headaches with insurance. So it is cash only. So, having done the math and cursing a lot, I did what was necessary, I got a second job.

    I am now a part-time cook for the chain that Tanya is the assistant manager for at another store. I get the impression that tradsies were involved in getting me this job locally, but my boss has said I was the better end of the deal.

    So joining the new hordes of part-time workers, I am coming home four nights a week smelling of grease, and getting four hours of sleep and going to work teaching.

    Off to work soon, so get your questions in.

    Oh and those of you who had me in the “dead” or “jail” pool, you lost. Pay up.

  252. >>>Aquatic Ape Theory holds more water at this point. Not a pun.

    I find it absolutely hilarious that so much effort has been expended to refute such a silly little “theory” that was meant as a joke from the start.

    Yet I’m the stupid one for defending it.

  253. You have my sympathies and my prayers, Mundane. I’m glad you aren’t dead or in jail.

  254. Oh and Leon……Nice Post!

  255. Mundane, almost everyone I know now has two jobs or more. Welcome to The New Deal.

  256. So joining the new hordes of part-time workers, I am coming home four nights a week smelling of grease

    Well, there are other part time jobs where you come home smelling like that which also include walking funny by the end of the night, so…

  257. Only 2 jobs?

  258. >>>87: This is what is known as “refining” the theory.

    Wow. Lucky for Einstein and Newton that their theories sprung from their brains perfect and unassailable from the beginning.

    I would have hated to see the skeptics jump around like a bunch of meth-addled chimps as they attempted to find any minor flaw in their concepts.

    “Refinement” is for pussies, amirite?

  259. >>>The ACA is the gift that keeps on giving.

    You have my sympathies, Mundy.

  260. I am using this line at work tomorrow,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28LfW-OtHR0

  261. Well, there are other part time jobs where you come home smelling like that which also include walking funny by the end of the night, so…

    Yeah…well, I have to say that the wait staff is pretty hot, but they are all so freaking young!

  262. Yet I’m the stupid one for defending it.

    Well yeah. Duh.

  263. Or I am really old…

    I think it is the latter

  264. Young and stupid.

  265. Young and stupid.

    Perfect combination for some activities. Not so good for others.

  266. Cover theory cures cancer.

    Film at 11:00.

  267. Don’t look at me like that. I meant like they’d be easy to con into helping you move or paint a fence, but not so good as euchre partners.

    Also nookie.

  268. >>>Well yeah. Duh

    Both Michael and Russ agree with me…

    *rethinks viability of theory….

  269. It appears Cover Song Theory alone could demand enough work to constitute a second jorb.

  270. Leon, I got asked to help one with her homework. Admittedly, it was college level chemistry, but still…

    Homework!

  271. OK, off to work. See y’all later.

  272. “euchre”

    I don’t eat that stuff.

  273. >>>It appears Cover Song Theory alone could demand enough work to constitute a second job.

    As soon as I figure out a way to make it “green”, it’s easy street, baby!

  274. Leon, I got asked to help one with her homework. Admittedly, it was college level chemistry, but still…

    Dear Penthouse, I never thought it could happen to me, but I met this girl while moonlighting from my day job…

  275. Way ahead of you.

    I just sold Huey Lewis $37,000 worth of cover credit.

  276. Update on my mom:

    Last night, she woke up vomiting and at some point this morning, they called a Code Blue on her because she was clammy and unconscious. But I just talked to her, and she’s feeling fine. I actually went to visit her this morning, and she was sound asleep the whole time. They think it was a reaction to Dilaudid, which they had given her because the morphine she had been getting was making her itchy. Anyway, they want to give her an angiogram tomorrow, so any surgery will have to wait until Wednesday at the earliest.

    $20 in a bedpan.

  277. >>>I just sold Huey Lewis $37,000 worth of cover credit.

    Damn. Nicely done.

    You bastard.

  278. >>>Update on my mom:

    All my good thoughts with your mom, Sean.

  279. What is she in for?

  280. My ex had terrible reactions to morphine. Prayers for your Mom, Sean.

  281. If morphine is involved it can’t be good.

  282. >> Basically, Wiser has been on the ropes for this theory for three years but he steadfastly refuses to acknowledge anybody’s good points, simply dismissing them as exceptions to his very good, all-encompassing, ironclad Theory.

    I’ve never met a rule like quite like this. There are more exceptions to it than instances of it.

    It’s quite, remarkable.

    Anyway I’ve been gone all day and missed you dorks, and there’s no way I’m going to try to catch up, except to say I’m sorry your mom has been unwell Sean and I hope she’s better soon.

  283. Me and morphine get along just fine.

  284. A couple of months ago, I was on max morphine after major surgery for a week
    I must say, the shit works well

    They’re so worried that you get addicted that they’d rather let you suffer

  285. On Saturday, her prosthetic hip popped out of joint for the third time since March, scott.

  286. Oh, and thank you for the prayers and kind words, youse guys.

  287. >>>I’ve never met a rule like quite like this. There are more exceptions to it than instances of it.

    Interesting rebuttal.

    An incredibly ridiculous statement with absolutely no basis in reality, but still….

    Interesting.

  288. Sean

    That’s awful
    Hope they get it set right

  289. >> Me and morphine get along just fine.

    Word.

    Wiser, it’s cool. We now refer to it as the “John Mayer (whatever his name is) released a cover and his career is totally over rule”.

    It’s ironclad, that rule.

  290. >>>It’s ironclad, that rule

    Interesting that you insist on calling it a “rule”

    Guess that’s an easier concept than “theory” for you.

    Hey, whatever works for you.

    Tell Sheryl Crow I said “hi” the next time you see her at a supermarket opening.

  291. David Bowie did covers for a while then his career took off again

  292. >>>David Bowie did covers for a while then his career took off again

    How nice for him….

  293. Wiser,
    I hear Sheryl replaced Mr Whipple as the New Charmin spokesperson

  294. >>>Wiser,
    I hear Sheryl replaced Mr Whipple as the New Charmin spokesperson

    Huh.

    I thought Phil Collins took that gig….

  295. If you get hoarse yelling tonight it’ll take you more than a week to get well and you have radio duty.

    No yelling.

    Good theory. The John Mayer Theory of this One Thing Ever. Maybe Seventeen Things But It Fades Into Insignificance Over the Hundreds of Other Things. Still…

    Still

  296. Well what the fuck is it: a theory, rule or hypothesis?
    Werner Heisenberg is doing a standards album and wanted to know

  297. So we’re agreed that the Clapton Exception is for all blues, reggae, and Tulsa Sound, but not necessarily anything he recorded with Phil Collins?

  298. On the third Tuesday of the month?

  299. As long as the entrails confirm what the Oracle said?

  300. Damn it
    Phil Collins screwed up the entire Unified Theory with his bland balding suckiness

    I hate Phil Collins

  301. Phil Collins… drummer… I know him.

  302. >>>70 Dear GuestBlogger,

    I had never considered the implications of a popular artist who has been hitless for a good while covering a great song. But now that you mention it, I can’t think of a single once great artist covering a great song and then going on to produce a new big hit. To whereas there are indeed countless once great artists who cover great songs and never churn out a serious new hit. Perhaps there is an exception or so somewhere in the annals of popular music, but at least as a generalized theory, yours seems extremely solid. There is also some poetic justice to it.
    Posted by: Dave at October 01, 2011 06:11 PM (a5Y+2)

  303. Ya now, if you weren’t all so stone-cold committed to proving how much betterer you are than me, you might consider the fact that maybe…. Just maybe… I’m not a fucking idiot.

    Naaaaaaaaaaa………

  304. *pats wiser on the head and gives him a cookie*

  305. >>>I think it’s a good theory; it just doesn’t hold true in every case. Hell, that’s what a theory is — If x then y, z% of the time. Wiserbud was careful to mention some parameters and caveats, but it has a predictive nature which, in this case, seems to work a lot more often than it doesn’t.

    Posted by: FireHorse at October 01, 2011 07:18 PM (F5OMl)

  306. The Wiserbud Comprehensive Theory of Me And John Mayer, Sittin At The Tasty Cool. Two Young Lovers With Nothing Better To Do. Except Covers

  307. you might consider the fact that maybe…. Just maybe… I’m not a fucking idiot.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  308. Jeez, I make a simple observation about Iggy Pop and David Bowie, and it turns into this whole big stinking thing again.

    (Heh.)

  309. *carefully clips the nice comments wiserbud found, applies gold stars and smilies, tapes them to the fridge*

  310. That tune is one of my all time favs, Sean. I think rattled something loose in my speakers playing it this evening.

  311. >> you might consider the fact that maybe…. Just maybe… I’m not a fucking idiot.

    Considers this.

    Yes, yes I can get on board with this. You are not a fucking idiot.

    You are a stubborn cuss though. Gotta own that one hoarse voicey.

    It’s not about being better than you. Much.

  312. So apparently Hitler was a beta male.

  313. >>>It’s not about being better than you. Much.

    It just kills you that I might be slightly smarter than you, doesn’t it?

  314. >>>You are a stubborn cuss though. Gotta own that one hoarse voicey.

    I will freely admit that I enjoy a spirited discussion

  315. cover theoooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

  316. >>>(Heh.)

    You wacky, crazy kid

  317. Is sampling the same as covering?

  318. My niece had her baby today. He stayed inside until 30 weeks. He was trying to get our since 24 weeks. 3# 8oz, his name is Elliot Joseph and he is doing well.

    Prayers for Sean’s mom.

  319. >>>Is sampling the same as covering?

    No.

  320. Prayers for you mom, Sean (sorry I missed that earlier dang it).

    Congrats Uncle Zmax! I hope mom is doing well too.

  321. >>>My niece had her baby today.

    Positive thoughts going out to all those who need them.

    And I’m out.

    Hugs, hostages.

  322. >> It just kills you that I might be slightly smarter than you, doesn’t it?

    Oddly, no. I’m not sure if it’s disbelief or disinterest.

  323. Congrats to you and yours, Zeman. And thanks again, everyone.

  324. I thought I said this already.
    Mom is fine Cyn. Relieved to be able to get out of bed after 6 weeks. They would not even let her walk to the bathroom!

  325. Good news, Vman. Prayers, Sean.

  326. hi oso

  327. Hola, TJ.

  328. You missed me stirring up shit, osita.

  329. Sports radio guy (Dan Patrick?) said that when things get slow, trot out a list. Nothing generates more calls than a list. Wiser’s Cover Theory is the H2 equivalent of a list. (I’m in 3 separate FB groups trying to get Pete Rose in the HOF)

  330. I was able to listen to Iggy Pop before work. Well played.

  331. oso
    Do you think Rose will get in?
    With all the steroid guys not getting in, the HOF may just get full of shittier players

  332. Nope. They have a mock up of his locker and his bat and several baseballs, but he “Bet on baseball” and “Lied”/ There IS no HOF without Pete.

  333. oso
    Do you all ever get down here to this area?

  334. Sometimes. Not recently. We were planning on the Lobo/UTEP football game, but I have to work early.

  335. I have extended family in El Paso. Aunt in Midland. Most of my Texas family have moved back to Hondo or Roswell.

  336. Que lastima
    Would have been nice to have gotten a mini meeting here
    Mi esposa got a grad degree at UNM but is more of a SMU fan
    Her family of course are huge on
    UTEP

  337. I have family in Roswell too
    Of course. I lived in the Midland/Odessa area for two decades
    Even that funky little town that Pandejo Grande lives in, Kermit.

  338. My Nina got her undergrad at UTEP. I still H8 Bear Haskins for always finding a way to beat us in basketball. What part of Roswell? My Mom, Aunt J, Aunt Martha, and Aunt Cecilia still live there. Extended family own 3 restaurants in Roswell. Popo’s, Martin’s Capital Cafe, and Burrito Express.

  339. They used to live in a gingerbread looking house on Pennsylvania, as I recall
    Also on 11th street
    My cousin Steve is a pathologist there these days
    I lived on Pennsylvania for a year, ages ago, as I recall
    I do remember two of those restaurants, I believe

  340. I like the old homes on Pennsylvania. My Mom lives on N Ohio. By the park. My cousin, Ana, is a Dr there. Her hubby just got passed over by Susana for Magistrate judge. He’s running against Susana’s Las Cruces appointee next election.

  341. They all use my Great Grandmother’s chile recipes. Burrito Express just expanded to Rio Rancho. I don’t get a family discount! LOL

  342. I’ll have to ask my cousin
    Im sure he knows your family
    He loves Mexican food too
    The last time he was here I took him to Borregas
    I used to go to the two Borregas in Juarez all the time, before the narcos fucked everything up
    They would hand out Cuban cigars in the restaurant

  343. I’m sure. we used to go into J town for Chinese food. And dog races.

  344. Good old Shangri La

    La Fonda. Ajuas. The list goes on and on

    I still remember “Here comes the bunny!” At the dog races
    Well, I was at the Sunland Casino and racetrack this afternoon ( a half mile from my house) but its not the same

  345. Is there a Rogues’ Gallery of Cover Songs? For example, has anyone, sarcastically or otherwise, recorded a cover of Gerry Rafferty’s “Baker Street?” Or worse, Terry Jacks’ “Seasons in the Sun?”

  346. OMG! “Here comes the bunny!” I remember betting when I was 14 and exiled to El Paso for the Summer.

  347. GO I just posted a Baker Street cover the other day on face chimp. I don’t think there is a Seasons in the Sun cover. BRB

  348. O M G. Nirvana did a SITS cover.

  349. Small world oso
    We need to exchange emails
    I don’t know if you’re on Ace, but logprof and his wife ( from Juarez) visited a couple of years ago and we went to Maria Chuchenas, the upscale Juarez restaurant
    It was great
    Buenas noches!

  350. I don’t think there is a Seasons in the Sun cover.

    I’ll bet some mid-eighties punk band did one just for shits and giggles.

  351. O M G. Nirvana did a SITS cover.

    Holy crap. Someone wake wiserbud.

  352. GN. I’ve been lurking at Ace’s for years!!!!

  353. Foo Fighters do covers all the time. I think they save them for live performances and don’t use them on albums.

  354. For some reason, “Seasons In The Sun” seems fitting as theme music for Chelsea Manning.

  355. She’s too young for Terry Jacks! LOL Dude looked like a lady!

  356. Hooters was the only Breastaurant in town for a long time. 2 locations. Then we got a Twin Peaks. Followed by an Ojos Locos. (No Tilted Kilts or Bone Daddys) Hooters was losing business, so they’ve recently updated their Orange Shorts and Tee unis. I wouldn’t know, because I boycott Hooters and their discriminatory hiring practices. Dan just said their new unis are “Meh”

  357. G’night. Waiting for the derp…

  358. Sent a letter on a derp summer day
    Made of silver, not of clay
    I’ve been runnin’ down this dusty road

  359. quite the rain storm last night, eroded the hill going down to the river pretty good. now i’ll have to fix that… son of a –

  360. off to boston –

  361. Morning children.

  362. See you in Springfield.

  363. wakey wakey. 2

  364. I do not want to go to work. Yesterday was a shitstorm of stupidity, and I’m not expecting today to be any better.

  365. I’m really sorry I missed the cover song convo last night.

    Truly.

  366. * sends prayers *

  367. They’re talking a bout the fruit spoiling on the vine because we don’t have any immigrants to pick it due to lack of immigration reform.

    Huh.

    Where I work, the kitchen is FILLED with Mexicans.

  368. There was a haboob and I missed it?

  369. It’s a trap.

    The Dems are just trying to get the Repubs to vote on amnesty because it’s been a fantastic growing season.

    No grapes, no 2013 pinot noir. THE HORRORS!

  370. Today I will be bringing NO one food.

    Seriously, my kids are going to have to carry that shit from the kitchen to the table.

  371. Last night I waited on a really friendly, nice couple. Chatted me up. Loved everything. Ordered Filet and crablegs, and Prime rib and drinks and appetizers. I was very attentive, because it was her birthday.

    It was truly loverly.

    Until they tipped me $8 on $80.

    Seriously, I fucking hate people.

  372. Glad they found their way around the construction, Carin, but damn, that’s cheap.

  373. No grapes, no 2013 pinot noir. THE HORRORS!

    Shit just got real.

  374. LOL, Roamy, I was congratulating tables for finding their way in.

    But yesterday was a HORRIBLE day.

  375. I spent 6.5 hours in a testing center yesterday in a room so quiet I could hear my heartbeat. All that time and $110 for the priviledge of taking the test to find out that I failed it by ONE question!

    Karma I guess for tipping that sassy waitress $8 on an $80 tab the other day….

  376. Oh, and I always find it ironic that people order REALLY expensive stuff … but then can’t tip for shit. Gee, you’re meals were about $30 each. Drinks. app.

    Perhaps you intended to go to the Applebies across the street? They have 2 for $20 there.

  377. Good morning, cool kids.

  378. Durty Guy, what test did you take?

  379. I took the Tennessee General Contractor’s exam and failed the motherflippin’ General Law portion. I get to take it again next month so I got that going for me.

  380. How much easier would it have been to bring them $40 worth of food?

  381. Scott is cruisin’…

  382. New Poat in 5… 4… 3… 2…

  383. How much easier would it have been to bring them $40 worth of food?

    They actually ordered a shit ton of food- and made a huge mess. Crableg crap everywhere, under the table, etc. Pigs.

    And, I tip out the rest of the staff based on my sales. It doesn’t matter what I get tipped. I still have to tip-out based on a percentage of my sales.

    People like this would have tipped 10% of $40 too. It’s just how they are.

  384. >> Until they tipped me $8 on $80.

    Hey, that’s like, what, 10%. Good gross margin


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