Starting at the Bottom

This is how 99% of everyone in the military starts their service

It’s not glamorous and you won’t see it on any recruiting posters, but it is the reality of service. Now, some people say that offering high school students an opportunity to do this for some spending cash is racist. Really?

The young man pictured on the Mess Deck here cost the taxpayers quite a bit of money. First there was his public education from kindergarten to 12th grade. Then, the intensive effort to recruit him, send him to Boot Camp and on to his specialty training (in this case as an aviation electrician). Yet, after all this money spent on him, the Sailor has been assigned to spend 90 days sweeping and swabbing decks, serving food to his shipmates or providing laundry service.

Yup, that is 3 months out of a 6/7 month deployment that this young man will be engaged in these “menial” tasks. He probably isn’t really enthused about the tasks assigned to him and won’t be incorporating any of these endeavors into the sea stories he’ll be telling the folks back home. It’s not a lot of fun and it’s not what he signed up for.

So, why does the military, in this case the Navy, take this young man in whom they have invested so much and have him perform these mundane duties for so long? Couldn’t they just hire some civilians to do it? Isn’t it demeaning?

Some of you already know the answer. Some of you can guess. If you worked in fast food as a youngster, if you started on the loading dock, if you cut lettuce, picked tomatoes or baled hay in the summer, you know the answer.

305 Comments

  1. BTW – I don’t know how to make the photo fit.

    STFU – I’m old!

  2. Timing sucks.

  3. Well done, MCPO, very well done!

    Head of nail, meet hammer.

  4. Scott – Did I push something down?

  5. I’ll fix it, old man.

  6. I’d fix it but I took my entire staff ou tto dinner, and I’m too mellow right now.

  7. Hotspur – GroupOn discount?

  8. Andy – Thank you.

  9. I wondered why we were lookin at some sailor eating dinner.

  10. Do I have to answer the question? This margarita was strong.

  11. I assumed you were going for an artsy look to it, “barely noticed now even among his peers” etc etc.

  12. We had great fun. My guys are awesome. They never miss an opportunity to mention that I am old. I never miss an opportunity to tell them that they are dickheads.

  13. I assumed you were going for an artsy look to i

    MCPO’s an art fag. Yep, I can see it.

  14. Have another one PJM!

  15. I’d believe it.

  16. PJM – Yeah, it had nothing to do with my lack of ‘puter skills!

  17. Carin, this is a diversion……

    http://tinyurl.com/7xm4bpf

  18. PJM, stop doing stuff with your family and doing stuff that is going to further your education and that will bring in cash to your household, it’s cramping our PJM/Hostage time!

    KNOCK IT OFF!

  19. Have another one PJM!

    I wish I could, but my mom took me to a bar. She was helping me decompress.

    I went from being a stay at home mom for 14 years to suddenly being asked to host a three hour staff training on a software program I knew nothing about.

    good times

  20. Carin just pretend those are iPads instead of ibooks.

  21. >> good times

    You’re gonna be great.

  22. PJM, stop doing stuff with your family and doing stuff that is going to further your education and that will bring in cash to your household, it’s cramping our PJM/Hostage time!

    KNOCK IT OFF!

    You’re right. I QUIT!!!!!!!!!!

    I miss you guys WAY too much!

  23. Unbutton a extra button PJ Everyone will be concentrating on your beautiful fantastic cleavage and not care. Plus you will get great reviews.

  24. You’re right. I QUIT!!!!!!!!!!
    I miss you guys WAY too much!

    Atta girl!!

    You know we’re proud of you, right?

  25. Vman, should write a self help book!!

  26. Did anybody shimmy down anybody else’s drainpipe today?

  27. Anything for a buck Mare. How many are you buying?

  28. I went from being a stay at home mom for 14 years to suddenly being asked to host a three hour staff training on a software program I knew nothing about.

    Make cookies for them, and tell ’em to take a nap.

  29. >> Make cookies for them, and tell ‘em to take a nap.

    HAH

  30. Roamy – The first practical advice given on this here blog in quite some time! Kudos!*
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    Kudos means WTF, right?

  31. Unbutton a extra button PJ Everyone will be concentrating on your beautiful fantastic cleavage and not care.

    It was all women.

    I’ll just bake the cookies.

    hahaha and thanks mare

  32. I have a cartoon in the funny folder somewhere that “Take Our Mothers To Daycare” day. All the moms are napping, and the kids are looking around, confused.

  33. You know what I like about Sean? He never critiques our my screwed up attempts at writing here.

  34. All the moms are napping, and the kids are looking around, confused.

    hahahaha

  35. Did someone say margarita??

  36. It was all women

    Ok you will get the 10-20% Lesbians
    Not as good as I thought.

    Give them sammies with the cookies they will want a nap for sure

  37. With Bacon! Everyone wants Bacon.

  38. I didn’t shimmy down a drainpipe today, but I did give mare credit for a story I posted over at AoS this evening. I think I saw her say “WTF?” this morning about that ship that cratered a bridge today in Kentucky.

    So that’s somethin.

  39. And Cheese. Bacon and Cheese anything. = nap.

  40. Did someone say margarita??

    I scream Cyn, you hear margarita……..it’s ok. Same difference. Both a cool tasty treat that’ll knock yer socks off.

  41. I used to drive across this in the morning going to work. Do you know the name of this bridge?

    Napoleon Bonaparte Broward Bridge (Dames Point Bridge)

  42. but I did give mare credit for a story I posted over at AoS this evening

    so mare’s now famous?

    Should we all line up for autographs now before she starts charging for them?

  43. Actually, Chief, I think your poat is very well-written. It’s concise and gets the point across quite well.

    (You should have ended the fourth paragraph with a question mark, though.)

  44. You silly PJ; didn’t you know that Margarita was my middle name? It’s like you’re psychotic or something.

  45. Or psychic even.

  46. Sean – You’re too kind.

  47. I got to not meet mare before she sold out.

  48. “Or psychic even” has me giggling about Ace’s post again.

  49. Great post.

    I liked unloading trucks. It was hard work, but it was also a LOT of fun.

    P.S…..Do I happen to actually KNOW that sailor?

  50. Are you hiring MCPO?
    Jax is 4 hours away.

  51. It’s like you’re psychotic or something.

    Or psychic even.

    but mostly psychotic

    Yes, I AM PMS oso.

    It’s obvious you can tell by how I”m typing

  52. >> Yes, I AM PMS oso.

    blue marker, calendar.. check.

  53. Mare sold out????

    She’s such a whore!

  54. blue marker, calendar.. check.

    You have the world’s largest calendar, don’t you?

  55. Perfectly
    Margarita
    Sauced?

  56. >> good times

    You’re gonna be great.

    I didn’t see this.

    Dave, I gave the presentation today. I had SO much stinkin’ fun.

    I posted this on fb, but I’ll repost it here.

    Fortunately, they went easy on me and only made me give 40 minutes by myself till a teacher showed up to help me.

    “Started a presentation today until the teacher could show up. Had everyone sign in and take a tomato. I apologized for the tomatoes not being big and rotten….then I told them if my presentation was bad, they could throw their tomatoes at me.”

  57. It was a good ice breaker.

  58. Perfectly
    Margarita
    Sauced?

    Is that some sort of haiku?

  59. Dave knows everything there is to know about the ladytimes.

    I joke about the calendar. I don’t need it.

    I know. When.

    It’s funny, somebody at ace’s in that post about “men psychically know” said something like “most men don’t even know it’s all before the period, not during, those idiots”, and I cocked my head sideways and said to myself “there are men this dumb?”

    Which of course there are. The expression shouldn’t be “OTR”, it should be “Dear GOD please let my sweetie be OTR soon!”

  60. >> I had SO much stinkin’ fun.

    see? I knowed it

  61. Sounds like a kick in the pants, PJ. Good on you girlie! Oxyclean works great on tomato, just FYI.

  62. Peej, I thought it was a great ice breaker. We’re so proud of you! Squeeeeeeel!!!!

  63. I cocked my head sideways and said to myself “there are men this dumb?”

    yes. hahaha

    Good on you girlie! Oxyclean works great on tomato, just FYI.

    hahaha, yeah, MCPO nailed me on that too.

  64. Is that some sort of haiku?

    No seasonal reference.

  65. awwwwwww, thanks oso.

    and all the bitching and moaning and tears of terror I went through this week were all for naught.

  66. Awww, Haiku Fail. DAMMIT.

  67. Well it’s probably more info than most want to know, but my eldest babygirl, who will be 26 in April, she has a tough time and has since she was 11. The poor thing gets those awful cramps.. it’s a bad deal, the curse.

    There have been many times over the years that I hugged her gently, got her some Motrin and a coke for her upset tummy, and went lookin for the heating pad.

  68. BisW – Nobody we know.

    Vman – Sadly, I no longer work in North Florida.

  69. and all the bitching and moaning and tears of terror I went through this week were all for naught.

    Are we still taking about your presentation?

  70. Perfectly
    Margarita
    Sauced?
    Fall

    is that better, sean?

  71. DiT, you’re a great Dad. I love your stories about your girls.

  72. OK. I wasn’t sure, because he would have lost more weight if it was, Chief.

  73. Heh. I have stood before The Wall™ with part of a label in hand, at the grocery store. Finding the thing with the wings or the dots or however the hell it’s configured. The label meant I was gonna get it right, every time. Not like those loser dads or husbands who just looked at it wide-eyed in terror, hoping against hope they wouldn’t fuck it up.

    They did. They had no skills.

  74. Did xbrad write this poat? I can’t see the authors from my phone

  75. Dave, I read that in Col. Jessep’s voice.

  76. Sohos, how’s your Mom?

  77. Perfectly
    Margarita
    Sauced?
    Fall Down

    FFA

  78. Are we still taking about your presentation?

    No. That’s just what happens when my alarm goes off in the morning.

  79. Sohos- twas written by our very own Master Chief.

  80. Fall Down

    You complete me.

    Did xbrad write this poat?

    bwahaha hahahaha

  81. PJM – STFU and mix me a drink!

  82. You complete me.

    It’s the pants.

  83. Good post MCPO!
    Oso- she is in a lot of pain but she is better today than yesterday. I am spending the night with her again tonight in the rehab facility. She will be here for 3 weeks

  84. Sohos, sorry she is in pain. Glad you can be there with her.

  85. ooooooooh, what happened to yer mum sohos?

  86. Heh.

    You want me at that wall. You NEED me at that wall. Hell, I NEED me at this wall if I’m gonna get a minute of sleep tonight.

    YOU GUYS CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

    Hey Sohos, best wishes to mom!

  87. She needs moar drugs Sohos. She should not have to suffer, plus it can slow her healing.

  88. I just about sharted myself reading the joke thread.

  89. Hehehe!

    Dave – I did the label off the box thing too.

  90. I just about sharted myself reading the joke thread.

    I hate it when I miss……………stuff.

  91. She fell and broke her hip Peej

  92. Master Chief. Nice post.

    But I thought the real reason youngsters mess cranked for 90 days was because there’s no illegal aliens to do the jobs Americans won’t do on board.

  93. She fell and broke her hip Peej

    holy cow, sohos. Are we going to have to name you AND your mom, “Grace”?

  94. Xbrad – Yeah, that’s totally the reason.

  95. >> Dave – I did the label off the box thing too.

    We ain’t as stupid as we look Chief.

  96. Dave – I always tell people, “My Momma only raised one fool. He’s delivering the mail in the rain today.”

  97. The tree doesn’t fall far from the apple, but holy shit, when it does, ouch!

    *prayers and well wishes for your mom honey*

  98. Well at least we know I get it honest

  99. >>Well at least we know I get it honest

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    SMOOCH!

  100. Hahhahah, Sohos!

    {{{HUGS}}}

    Hang in there, kitten!

  101. Example 1,443,571,908 that defense attorneys are soulless scum.

    Murdering scum who participated in one of the heinous crimes ever committed in the state of CT was sentenced to death today.

    His attorney spoke to the press after the penalty was handed down.

    He actually called William Petit, the husband of the woman who was raped and murdered and the father of the two young girls who were tied to their beds and allowed to burn to death when the house was set on fire, “the angel of death”

    Actual quote: “It is William Petit’s fault that we still have the death penalty in the state of Connecticut.”

  102. Thanks yall

  103. http://tinyurl.com/7eox29s

  104. Well at least we know I get it honest

    ahhhhhhh, poor babies. :(

  105. “the angel of death”

    Actual quote: “It is William Petit’s fault that we still have the death penalty in the state of Connecticut.”

    what a sick fucking piece of shit.

    Huh….wonder if he’s liberal? Nah, prolly not

  106. I hadn’t heard about your mom, Sohos – hope she gets better soon!

    One of our friends was talking about that (falling and breaking a hip) many years ago, because he had seen a show where they talked about that (among other things).

    The doctor on the show said that a leading theory is that the hip breaks FIRST, which is what causes the fall.

    He also said it’s HARD to “just” break a hip without some pretty serious blunt force trauma (like a car accident); most folks have some level of osteoporosis if it just “spontaneously” breaks.

    (Yeah, all our friends are nerds like me and Mr. TiFW…..)

  107. In this case, I would recommend the execution of the defense attorney too.

  108. Connecticut should thank Mr. Petit, except it would be an intrusion into his nightmare of pain and sorrow, that these two animals were sentenced to be put down for their monstrous crimes.

    I cannot imagine his suffering. I don’t want to. It’s selfish of me I’m sure, but dear God.

    If he walked up to that attorney and planted a knee in his balls, it would be an act of “fixing a wrong world”.

  109. Huh….wonder if he’s liberal? Nah, prolly not

    naaaaaaah….

    He actually said that, while defending this garbage, he began to think of him as a nephew.

    WHO GIVES A FUCK??!?!? HE’S A MURDERING PIECE OF FILTH!!!

    Just because you have horrible taste in choosing people to care about doesn’t change the facts.

  110. He actually tried to get a mistrial because he felt that the Petit family was unfairly influencing the jury by being in the courtroom during the proceedings and occasionally showed emotion when they discussed the events of the day of the murders.

    How DARE they?

  111. If he walked up to that attorney and planted a knee in his balls

    I would pay money for a Pupster gif of that.

  112. Or as Samuel L. Jackson put it…

  113. http://tinyurl.com/88epu5q

  114. If he walked up to that attorney and planted a knee in his balls, it would be an act of “fixing a wrong world”.

    Word

  115. So how about those Red Wings, eh?

  116. these two animals were sentenced to be put down for their monstrous crimes.

    What’s really disgusting is that I will be dead before the bastards are put to death.

    I guarantee you that, within one year, the POS Governor of this hell-hole of a state will outlaw the death penalty and these two pieces of filth will have their sentences commuted to life.

  117. You folks are much kinder and gentler than I.

  118. Good evening :)

  119. My Mama fell down 5 feet of stairs. We were lucky a hip is all she broke. I am watching some freak on 20/20 who held his wife captive in Hartford, CT. Wiserbuns. Crazy guy

  120. Hey Aggie!

  121. So how about those Red Wings, eh?

    LAWYER!!!!!!

    http://tinyurl.com/273cjye

  122. >> the POS Governor of this hell-hole of a state will outlaw the death penalty and these two pieces of filth will have their sentences commuted to life.

    He won’t have to. CT has carried out exactly one death sentence since 2005.

  123. I think since hanging, gas chambers, firing squads and even lethal drug injection are too cruel and unusual methods for execution, we should resort instead to flamethrowers.

  124. I am watching some freak on 20/20 who held his wife captive in Hartford, CT. Wiserbuns. Crazy guy

    His name is wiserbuns? WTF?!?!?!

  125. It is too bad they don’t have Texas mentality. They would fry like the fuckers deserve

  126. Sohos, I was watching reruns of The First 48 last night. Saw a case of a 17 year old girl in Katy, TX getting shot by some 18 year old asshole. For no good reason.

  127. I hate how prevalent these stories have become. Seems that there are more and more days when it’s a ‘Bonanza TVLand Day’ here lately.

  128. POS Bill Richardson and our Dem legislature outlawed the Death Penalty here. Susana is trying to get it back. Wiser, one of our former Govs did the commuting thing. Cost him reelection.

  129. CT has carried out exactly one death sentence since 2005.

    What’s amazing here is that even those against the death penalty feel these guys should die. They even interviewed a guy who was on the jury who stated that he was and always has been against the death penalty, but voted for it in this case. Of course, he then went on t state that he felt bad about his vote and that he felt like a hypocrite.

    Yet more proof that they really do get the stupidest people they can find to sit on these juries.

  130. If you want out of jury duty, wear a coat and tie.

  131. Hahahahahaha wiser!!!! I really did just crack-up. Xbrad we always watch the First 48. I haven’t seen that one and was that at a high school party? When Count and I lived in Houston we were 10 miles from Katy. That is also where Rene Zellwegger grew up.

  132. Susana is trying to get it back.

    I simply do not understand how one man can overturn a jury’s decision like that.

    How does becoming governor give you that kind of power?

  133. In keeping with MCPOs theme on this poat:

    http://tinyurl.com/7zjm43b

  134. Howdy, MCPO.

    Sohos, I’m glad your mom didn’t get hurt worse. I pray she has a swift recovery.

  135. If you want out of jury duty, wear a coat and tie.

    Yep, or your best skirt suit. Done and done.

  136. Yet more proof that they really do get the stupidest people they can find to sit on these juries.

    When you’re starting with people not smart enough to get out of jury duty…

  137. Ok, I had not considered that. If I wore a skirt I bet I’d get passed in the voir dire too.

  138. Wiser, right before he resigned and was prosecuted, Illinois governor Jim Ryan commuted all the death sentences in the state to life.

    Some folks figured it was to buy goodwill with the prisoners he was surely soon to be sharing housing with.

    Though to be honest, this was a time when there were serious systemic problems with prosecutorial misconduct in the state, especially in death penalty cases.

  139. I simply do not understand how one man can overturn a jury’s decision like that.

    It’s called commutation.

  140. The girls that murdered my cousin last year are juveniles. It wouldn’t have been DP eligible any way. We have no idea when the trial will start. The media is already spinning about the poor girls that killed her.

  141. What really annoys me about this is that William Petit is gong to have to spend the rest of his life trying to get the state to carry out the sentence.

    His life is going to be consumed by this and he will never ever have a chance to put this behind him.

    And people like the low-life scumbag defense attorney will always be making statements like the one above.

  142. Yep, or your best skirt suit. Done and done.

    Yeah, I looked good though.

  143. Thanks again yall. I cannot get over the tornado damage here. It is unreal.

  144. If I wore a skirt I bet I’d get passed in the voir dire too.

    They won’t even let you passed the metal detectors. That’s a lock right there.

  145. I’ve never been called for jury duty, but I really want to be. I want to see how easily the other jurors are to convince of whatever I wanted. Is that so wrong?

  146. <i.It’s called commutation.

    I know what it’s called. I just disagree that one elected official should have that power.

  147. Oh, and judges can do it too.

    Its called “Judgment Notwithstanding The Verdict”, and it is rarer than an honest Democrat, but it can happen.

  148. Evening all.

    Anyone feel like coming over to beat my computer down into spark-y electronic bits?

  149. Jeff Foxworthy calls it the “He needed killin’ defense”. Real popular down in these parts.

    Of course, we’re a bunch of knuckle-draggin’ rubes.

    I had one of those “old characters” for an instructor in college one time, who said he had a foolproof method for getting out of jury duty – whenever he was asked if he thought the defendant might be guilty, he just said, “Well, I assume he is, or you wouldn’t be trying him in the first place, now would you?”

    He was a real stinker…..

  150. You could beat your computer, but with a can of black powder you can really make a night of it.

  151. I always wear a tie when I’m called.

  152. Elliot, I’ve never been called for jury duty either. I know of illegals that have served on juries here. Combination of Motor Voter and Bill Richardson giving DLs to illegals.

  153. I just disagree that one elected official should have that power.

    If you had spent anytime dealing with cops in court, you might revise your feelings to “don’t like it, but understand”.

  154. Though to be honest, this was a time when there were serious systemic problems with prosecutorial misconduct in the state, especially in death penalty cases.

    I can understand there being problems with some cases that can give people pause, but these two guys were caught walking out of the burning house and right into the arms of the police.

    They freely admitted what they did. Petit survived their attempt to kill him and was able to provide iron-clad ID. They are even caught on video at the bank with the wife, where they forced her to withdraw $15k for them. They freely confessed!

    No fucking doubt at all in this case and yet, people are still saying they only deserve life sentences because somehow using the death penalty is just as cruel as what they did to deserve it.

    I can’t imagine a more open and shut case that called for a death sentence and it will take at least 20 years to execute these fuckers.

  155. True. But there’s slightly less plausible deniability in that case Elliot.

    Also, for what it’s worth I have jury duty on Friday.

  156. I’ve always gotten out of it b/c I had a child 15 or under that I was caring for.

  157. Sure Revvy. Let me get my machete…

  158. Well sure, there is that. Just be sure to boot and nuke your hard drive if you’re not going to save it.

  159. Master Chief OUTSTANDING Article

    Heya OSO-Baby

    Good Job Peej

    Sohos, sorry bout yer momma

    YO dave-o you sir are a true gentleman

    Cyn Hubba Hubba

    xbrad Yaaaaaaahhhhoooooooooo

  160. My roommate and one of her coworkers went all office space on a printer from work in the garage last week. They had to borrow my bats because neither one actually had one. Kids these days…

  161. Revvy, the surest way to totally destroy your computer is to store your one and only copy of critical information like tax returns and such on it.

  162. Yikes, Sohita! That’s a nasty fall – I know that wasn’t how you were planning to spend your vacation with her; I’m glad you’re able to be there with her, though!

    The doctor on that show was saying that a lot of the “fall down the stairs and break a hip” incidents happen in the opposite way that most of us think they do – granny/grampa is coming down the stairs (it rarely happens going UP the stairs), the hip breaks, which causes them to lose stability, the affected leg goes out from under them, and THEN the fall occurs.

    He said that everyone naturally assumes that the fall caused the break, when in fact the break caused the fall. Obviously, that’s not always the case, though.

    When our friend told us about that program, all of us went, “Huh!” And then we all laughed, because we all said it at the same time (like I said, we’re a big bunch of nerds :P ).

  163. Today is National Chocolate Cake Day and I didn’t get any

  164. Revvy my pal

    Aggie as always Huggagropy

  165. Revvy, don’t you live kinda close to Wiser and the W’s?

    ‘Cuz I’m thinking between them and your dad, there could be a real kick-ass computer-destroyin’ party that could involve fire, explosions, knives, and any number of things that might land you in jail in 15 states….. :P

    Heck, get together next Sunday, and you could have your OWN halftime show!

  166. I know it’s late. Bookmark this and read it tomorrow.

    Via Instapundit

    http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2012/01/politics_establ.php

  167. Today is National Chocolate Cake Day and I didn’t get any

    I didn’t get any either, sohos.

    I didn’t have any cake either.

  168. Sohos, I still dream of chocolate cake! I haven’t had any in 3 years. The Great Wall of Chocolate at PF Changs still calls me!

  169. TiFW – Ooh! Daddy could use it for target practice with his new throwing knives!

    Also yes, I do live somewhat near Wiser and the Ws.

  170. Yeah, sadly on Tuesday night it had rained and the stairs were pure ice on Wed.morning. She had let her dog out to do her business, my Brother and Cousin were off in the woods, and she was going to the stairs to look for them, to let them know coffee was ready. She put one foot on the icey stair and down she went.

  171. ‘Cuz I’m thinking between them and your dad, there could be a real kick-ass computer-destroyin’ party that could involve fire, explosions, knives, and any number of things that might land you in jail in 15 states….. :P

    well, I do still have the firepit set up from my 50th b-day party.

  172. heya Oso-baby

  173. Revvy. Take it to Scott.

    Tell him it’s a stump.

  174. Hola WP and Aggie.

  175. I hate the screaming JC Penney commercial. Makes me want to borrow Aggie’s machete and hunt down that ad agency.

  176. MCPO, it isn’t the lateness but the Chardonnay that has me bookmarking.

  177. Aggie, just found your blog, veddy interesting

  178. revvy whats the word for the night?

  179. Um…. my computer lost a file I’m working on for a client so I have to start over, it also crashed several times so I’ve gotten absolutely no work done, and my viking is AWOL for the night it seems.

    So… not the best day ever, WP.

  180. Hey, WP. I hope you like it :)

    Roamy, I can’t stand those commercials, either. I can Fed Ex my machete, if you need it.

  181. And Hola to you, Osita :)

  182. I made brownies for neflings, is that close enough?

  183. Revvy, Stout heart and soul m’dear, there are those that watch over you that some call angels
    – Marcus Bishop “Lud in the Mists”

  184. OUCH, Sohos! Poor mom!

    I did that one time on our front steps – of course, we get ice so rarely that I didn’t KNOW how slippery it could get (I’d always heard, but I didn’t think we had enough ice for that to happen that day), or how quickly you find yourself on your keister…..

    She is lucky if that’s the only damage that was done – yikes!

    {{{gentle hugs}}} for your Mommy –

  185. Oso I wanna check out that chocolate wall you are talking about.

  186. neflings?

    ive seen halflings, Geflings and Morryfings

  187. ‘Night, all – sweet dreams!

  188. Thanks WP.

    Personally I’m just gonna eat chocolate and smoke while trying to get back to where I was with this fucking illustration.

  189. After 2 years on Hawaii I moved to Eastern Washington.

    My first winter there, I must have slipped and fallen because of ice half a dozen times.

    Not counting the daily flailing around and almost falling.

  190. Thank you Tifw. I am off to bed now. (In a chair) goodnight all

  191. Neflings are nieces and nephews, like siblings are brothers and sisters.

    Actually, the packages are all for nephews. Two will go out tomorrow to the broke college students. One went out Wednesday to Afghanistan. I mailed it, then got the notice to please not send any more mail after 1 FEB because they are coming HOME!

  192. Revvy, if it’s something you had saved at one time you could try this program to see if you can’t recover it.

  193. Aaaaaaaaagggie
    where’s the TV remote?

  194. then got the notice to please not send any more mail after 1 FEB because they are coming HOME!

    YAY!!! Awesome news, Roamy!!

  195. where’s the TV remote?

    If LV is anything like my Little One, she took it.

  196. Elliot – at this point, rather than obsess over getting it back I’d rather just start over and have done with it.

  197. heh, ill expect to find it under the bathroom sink, thats where she and cahill hide

  198. Great news, Roamy. One of my kids from the store had her hubby’s yellow ribbon ceremony today. He just got back from the Paki/Afghani border. On his way to the Sinai.

  199. G’night, Sohita and Tifw.

  200. it’s like I have girl radar or somethin.. on phone with eldest. She just wanted to talk.

    Damn, I am one fortunate man.

    nite kids.

  201. night, Dave

  202. vaya con deios Dave-O

  203. G’night, Dave!

    On his way to the Sinai.

    Is he going to be with the MFO?

  204. Aggie, not sure. I just know that he’s on his way. I’ll ask Jen.

  205. Let me know, Osita. That’s where Hubby is :)

  206. Aggie, I thought of you when she told me! (She didn’t tell me his destination just that he was going. News told destination)

  207. Nephew’s wife leaves for HI on Monday. She said she won’t be told when his flight is until 48 hours prior, and that there’s enough in the brigade coming back that the flights are spread throughout Feb. and into March.

    That would suck to not get any mail for a month.

  208. Long day, long week catchin’ up to me. Y’all have a good night. (((squishy hugs)))

  209. Roamy, yes it would. Being able to keep in touch with deployed friends and family is so cool. I remember not being in contact with my dad when he was in Korea in the early 80s. 20+ years later, I was talking to my cousin in Ramadi on his birthday.

  210. Aggie, they go to Indiana? first. Egypt on March 1st.

  211. Did anyone other than Sohos have their boobs shrink two sizes today?

  212. Oh, and FRINGE was outstanding tonight!

    But, of course, it always is.

  213. CB, mine shrank two sizes last year. I’m ok with it.

  214. Well, osoloco, as long as you like, others probably do too.

  215. My moobs are a bit less pronounced these days.

  216. wakey wakey

  217. http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-awesome-photos-7.jpg</em.

    are those … ipads???? sob.

    I like the way he has all those pictures on his wall. I'm just going to become a shutterfly, and start throwing pictures on my walls. I've waited long enough to 1) develop taste for art that 2) I can afford. Now I'm just going to surround myself with pictures and memories that make me happy.

    fuck style.

  218. html is hard in the morning

  219. Linking too.

  220. Good post. Here’s my work history. I thought it would be fun to see the shitty jobs people have worked.

    Sold fireworks at a roadside stand a month before the 4th: 13-15
    Mr Js Redhots: 15
    Dicksters (I have no idea why they went out of business): 15-17
    Middle School Janitor: 17-18
    Zorbas: 19
    Bub’s Pizza: 19-21
    Chili’s: 21-23
    ESPN Zone: 23-25
    Barrett Partners: 25-26
    Tyco Fire: 26-36

  221. I’m a little ticked you aren’t cooking my breakfast yet, Carin.

    Starvin’ over here. Don’t you care for me anymore?

    I could die.
    I could die.

  222. Today is going to be interesting. I’m running 10 miles this morning and I’m kind of hungover. Not St Louis hungover, but enough to feel that I went out last night. Sad thing is, I only had 4 beers.

    I may need drinking boot camp.

    Oh look! One fifth of a hundred dollars.

  223. *starts making Lauraw breakfast

    Spaghetti with syrup good for you?

  224. Today is going to be interesting. I’m running 10 miles this morning and I’m kind of hungover. Not

    It’s either going to be epic, or really -really – suck.

    I’m sticking in the 5 mile range -snow on the ground so I’m stuck to running inside, and I can’t run more than five miles on that stupid indoor track. 64 laps. I once did 6.5 miles on it, but I must have zone for a while.

  225. You know, while running (that stupid track) I had this HORRIBLE idea that I may want to run the full marathon this fall.

    WTF? How come these awful thoughts are creeping into my head?

  226. *lower lip quivers*

    yes, ma’am

    *grinds some pepper onto spaghetti n’ syrup*

  227. I’m hoping for epic.

    If you see this headline in St Pete tomorrow, you’ll know:

    Mentally Challenged Man Drops Dead on Beach Drive

  228. WTF? How come these awful thoughts are creeping into my head?
    ——————————
    I think I’m going to pass on it. I want to do the run/bike thing.

  229. I don’t honestly know where these thoughts are coming from. It’s just stupid.

  230. http://tinyurl.com/7qj5hke

  231. I have never worked in a restaurant or bar.

  232. I’ve had so many start at the bottom jobs I can’t remember em all. Paper boy, mail order clerk at a sporting goods store, I was 13 then. I’ve worked retail, done every job you can do in a restaurant from busboy to bartender, I worked at a gas station, I’ve done commercial roofing, industrial lawn care (businesses and apt complexes, I was “chemical boy”), construction, delivery, drove a Dr Pepper truck in college, worked in a factory, ran an escort service, part-time gynocology, and played in dozens of bands.

  233. I have never worked in a restaurant or bar.

    http://tinyurl.com/7otdv22

    Maybe you should start.

  234. Can’t say I’ve worked any shitty jobs except for babysitting this one batch of 4 kids. Never did that again.

    Mr. RFH said working retail in a toy store was far, far worse than shoveling horseshit at the stables. .

  235. I think Dave slipped in some “extra” jobs.

  236. Heh. Dave tried to slip one in there.

    Like they’d let him apply lawn chemicals.

  237. Mr Js Redhots
    Dicksters

    You still wake up sometimes, don’t you? You wake up in the dark and hear the catcalls of the foreign businessmen.

  238. Babysitting 13 – 16.
    Assistant librarian 17
    NASA 17 to now.

    bo-ring.

  239. Good morning :)

  240. LIPSTICK! Did you see the ferret gif I posted for you sometime in the last week or so? WHY NOT?

    Are you ready for your big trip? Wave when you get over Oh HI oh.

  241. Babysat all through his school, pretty much. I had some sweet gigs. First “real” job – waitressing for lunch, across the street from TIger stadium – Nemos – BEST burgers in Detroit. Ground round, fresh daily.
    THen:
    Wendy’s – worst job ever
    Miami U library – boring
    River Rock Cafe – cocktail waitress
    Bartender – at college bar
    TGIF’s – waitress
    Bartender – sorta upscale hotel bar
    bartener – Fishbones, downtown Detroit, then out in St CLair shores
    And, a short stint as a waitress at another hamburger joint

    I also did daycare for a while before I had child #3. In my house.

  242. Roamy, did you know you could

    http://pupster.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/clean-microwave-with-a-lime.gif ?

  243. Heh, lemony limey fresh.

    Wait, that sounds British.

  244. Roamy, did you know you could

    Holy shit, I hope Son doesn’t ever see that gif.

  245. TGIF’s – waitress

    CArIn, we need to talk about your flair.

  246. CArIn, we need to talk about your flair.

    LOL

    *adjusts “flags”

  247. Since we are doing job histories…

    Babysitter since I was 12. Always loved it.
    Janitor in college for two years.
    Housekeeper to the English Dept for four years.
    Disney hell for two months before coming to my senses.
    Retail minion, working up to management.
    Slipping back into insanity working for Disney Stores.
    Day school teacher for a year, until giving birth to Son.

    Now, SAHM :)

  248. There was a whole stack of them Aggatha.

    Personal favorite:

    *don’t try this at home kids*

  249. Many of those jobs were short term- in-between stuff, because most of the time I was just a bartender. I worked from 18 – 35 in bars, mostly. Cocktailing until I was 21. I would stop for a few years when I had a baby, then have to go back. If I couldn’t get a bar job right away, I’d waitress until something opened up. I quit for the last time when my youngest was born, although I worked through the pregnancy.

  250. Pupster, he has done three of those…

    Thank goodness he hasn’t destroyed the microwave.

  251. 6,042 Nobel Prizes and a good scritch behind the ears for Pupster. Those were awesome.

  252. Man, I’m boring. Not only have I worked at the same place for 26+ years, I’ve been in the same group for 25. I had this grand idea that I had four co-op quarters, I’d rotate through all four divisions of the materials lab. Moved once and said, heck, yeah, I’m staying here.

  253. Finding a job you love so much isn’t boring, Roamy. It’s ideal ;)

  254. >> I think Dave slipped in some “extra” jobs.

    Nuh uh.

    I show ya, here. *cough* AHEM

    “Bitch better have my money.”

  255. I have a cousin also in aerospace, and she told me 20 years ago that I was in a rut and that I should move. She’s changed jobs every 3 years or so.

    I like my rut. It’s a rough patch right now, but I keep hoping it’ll get better.

  256. Pups, yes I saw it and it was so cute!

    Flying out this morning — I’ll wave.

  257. I show ya, here. *cough* AHEM

    “Bitch better have my money.”

    Is that before or after the gynecological exam?

  258. It’s not a rut if you like it.

  259. Babysitting from 10-20, started working at Target at 15, worked for a friend’s dad one summer as a flag girl on a road crew and carrying the rods on a survey crew. Housesitter in Chama, went back to Target in 87. Stayed home for 4 years and have been back at Target for 16.

  260. *wonders if MJ is hating life right now on Beach Drive

  261. Ha ha ha … Elizabeth Warren says she’s not “wealthy.” This needs to be broadcast everywhere:

    I realize there are some wealthy individuals – I’m not one of them, but some wealthy individuals who have a lot of stock portfolios” she told him.

    Hard to see how Warren wouldn’t be, by most standards, wealthy, according to the Personal Financial Disclosure form she filed to run for Senate shows that she’s worth as much as $14.5 million. She earned more than $429,000 from Harvard last year alone for a total of about $700,000, and lives in a house worth $5 million.

    She also has a portfolio of investments in stocks and bonds worth as as much as $8 million, according to the form, which lists value ranges for each investment. The bulk of it is in funds managed by TIAA-CREF.

  262. Howdy, Osita!

    So, you’re saying you were a roadie?? ;)

  263. Aggie, I was! The neon orange vest and the hard hat were super sexy too.

  264. Well, I do accept most insurance plans.

  265. HAHAHAHA, Osita!!

    Only time I wore a hard hat was while building Bonfire™, and that wasn’t a job.

    It was an adventure ;)

    Well, I do accept most insurance plans.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  266. Dad is doing a bit better today. Managed to keep food down. MERSA may be the culprit – he’s had it for years, but I guess sometimes it rears it’s ugly head? I dunno. BP is holding steady with drugs. If he can continue to take nutrition …

    The thing has been that we didn’t know what was causing everything, and being left with the option that it was simply his organs shutting down. But if it was the mersa

    We’ll see.

  267. I hope and pray your dad recovers swiftly, Carin. Glad to hear he is doing better.

  268. I called my sister and made her come up to visit him today – told her I didn’t know if he was going to make it. He’s kinda pissed at her because she hasn’t been up in a LOOONG time. Anyway, I don’t think I’ll call her and tell her he’s doing better.

  269. She can come up and find that out for herself, Carin…

  270. Car in, glad your Dad is doing better.

  271. me too.

    also thanks for that link on Elizabeth Warren, champion of the middle class. I put it in the headlines

  272. L to R–Dave (off camera), Pupster:

  273. Ugh, MRSA. Huge pain in the butt, that is. Terrible. I totally understand it when people think twice about going to the hospital now.

  274. *looks at my arm*

    hmmmmm.

  275. Well, that was because you used Lemon Pledge as a wound treatment.

  276. If only!

    It’s better, just a small bump left.

  277. CB, I’ve been saying that all along!!

    We need to fight the media, not ourselves. Newt started doing that in the first few debates, but then turned to the same ol’ attack crap.

  278. G’mornin’ Peeps, Peepers, and various lurkey lurkers.

  279. Howdy, Cyn!

  280. Howdy, Cyn.

  281. HI.

    where’r my pants?

  282. *glances at calendar*

    It’s Pantsless Saturday; you’re good.

  283. well ok then.

    *scratches

  284. *sees dave scratch, averts eyes, but not quite fast enough*

  285. hey, I’m not nekkid

  286. Well not nekkid nekkid.

  287. So I’m getting caught up on my morning news and there’s a story about a proposal for ID when using your food stamps; critics (of course) call this discriminatory.

    Can someone, anyone, please tell me how this could possibly be discriminatory? They cost 12 bucks here.

  288. In other news stories, a Polar Bear Plunge here. Water temp? 65 degrees.

    o_O

    I should stop watching news today, huh.

  289. >> Can someone, anyone, please tell me how this could possibly be discriminatory?

    Because crack addicts can’t sell them for drugs

  290. Hairballs–HA!

    Ya know, he still looks mighty fine.

  291. Ya know, he still looks mighty fine.

    Chewie uses Tresemme on his pelt, Cyn.

  292. Because crack addicts can’t sell them for drugs

    Oh yeah, that. I forgot that that was in the script.

    When someone asks for my ID, I am so very appreciative that extra security measures have been put in place. Last time I dropped some serious bucks on clothing at a department store, they asked for my ID to glance at it when I used my credit card, and I thanked them. Yes, I did that because to me, it shows that they VALUE their customers. I apparently am in the minority when I extend a ‘thank you’.

  293. Chewie uses Tresemme on his pelt, Cyn.

    And man oh man it shows. Rawr!

  294. I know, right??

    As to the ID thing when I shop, totally. I thank them every single time for asking. I worked retail for a while, and some people just didn’t get it.

  295. *Rubs Tresemme on bald spot

    This had better work. . .

  296. I cannot read anymore of this proposal. My eyes are refusing.

  297. The odd babysitting job.

    I worked a year as a math assistant in HS

    Sewed some outfits for one of the HS teachers my senior year (the Home Ec teacher always recommended her “best” student to this teacher; I’d been sewing since I was 11, and was pretty darn good at it if I do say so myself)

    Worked in the Deer Park Public Library a couple of summers (until the year I got Mononucleosis; I was out of commission for the rest of that summer)

    Met Mr. TiFW, became his “ornament” :P

    Co-op’ed throughout college (Houston Lighting and Power)

    Engineering analyst for 3 years at General Dynamics (now Lockheed Martin)

    Became a stay-at-home mom in 1988

    I guess now I’m what you’d call a “kept woman” – for the price of a few hot meals and the occasional roll in the hay, I’m living a life of middle-class pseudo-luxury in a drafty 100+-year-old house with questionable plumbing.

    Wouldn’t trade it for nuthin’……

  298. OTOH, of course… asking for ID… for more and more things… slippery slope.

  299. *looks at Jewstin and nods approvingly*

    Don’t forget that other spot.

  300. You people really shouldn’t let me play on YouTube:

  301. SRSLY?!?!?!?!?!?

    Puss in Boots kilt it? Fine…..

    CRAPPY NEW POAT!!!!!!!!

  302. Sunday links…

    Old ad via Doug Ross Look for Green Lights When Choosing a Partner (h/t Schneiderman) Can You Choose to be Gay? Meet the Marriage Killer- It’s More Common Than Adultery and Potentially As Toxic, So Why Is It So Hard to Stop Nagging? Does Sc…


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