Equal or Not?

*puts on helmet*

Here’s a thought…Homosexual relationships and working for the public sector are similar in one important aspect.

Both choices (don’t bust my hump about homosexuality not being a choice because you’ll miss the point) should be protected and those choosing either should never be discriminated against.

However, to equate gay relationships as equal to heterosexual relationships is problematic in the same way as equating work in the public sector to work in the private sector.  If everyone elected the former, it would ultimately lead to the destruction of the former and the latter.

If everyone chose to work for government, no one would be left to pay for government.  If everyone was gay, that would leave no one to procreate.

As I see it, these are indisputable facts.  Again, this is not to say that homosexuals or public sector employees should be discriminated against, but there is a fundamental difference between them and their opposites.  Which, I think, is to say that there is a difference between these things and one should be encouraged as it allows the existence of its opposite.

Comments are welcome.

*

Now playing the part of every man, dog.

338 Comments

  1. That dog gots skilz.

  2. Does this mean Rosetta is coming out? Will we be driving to Mass. on Saturday so he can marry Wiserdouche?

  3. Hahahaha. He’s the Sting of dogs.

  4. that dog is gay

  5. I like how MCPO is going to Mass. for the meat-up.

    Early onset.

  6. Wow, that’s fucking profound. Did you think of that all by yourself?

  7. Gravity- It’s not the law, just a good idea…

    http://tinyurl.com/2cs47lo

  8. Government workers should absolutely be discriminated against. Why? Because they have a level of power that private workers do not. For all intents and purposes, a government worker is not at all accountable. Remember, the government has a monopoly on the “legitimate” use of force. Exxon does not.

  9. I like how MCPO is going to Mass. for the meat-up.

    Reading, muthafucka. . . it’s FUNDAMENTAL!!

  10. Wow, that’s fucking profound. Did you think of that all by yourself?

    I heard it on Sponge Bob Square Douche.

  11. Actually MCPO I think they can marry here.

  12. I’m with XBrad, government workers (non-military) should be subject to schoolyard taunts, cold shoulders at parties, impolite laughter after he “so what do you do?” question, and should never, ever get oral sex.

    Ever.

    Gays? Hey man, do what you want in your own bedroom, just don’t demand I call it “normal” and we’ll get along fine.

  13. Seriously, when I used to work in Chicago, I was right next to the Federal building. Whenever we’d go to the food court there for lunch, it was astonishing what a collection of fucked up people we would see there.

    Every variant of physical, emotional and intellectual deficiency was on display. And they were universally ugly. I mean, when I walk into a place and I’m the paragon of good looks and fashion sense (and this was when I was drinking a quart of bourbon daily!) you know there’s some fucked up peeps there.

  14. Union guys can marry in Massachusetts?

  15. Government workers should be locked in a stockade in the public square where you can throw tomatoes at them.

  16. That, xbrad, plus the fact that their salaries are paid with dollars stolen with the force of law.

    Brings me full circle to my first comment of the morn when Paul Ryan was kicking Jan Schakowsky’s ass on Squawk Box. She trotted out the fucking Keynesian multiplier and applied it to unemployment benefits. Ryan made the simple point that if $1.00 of unemployment benefits results in $1.60 of economic activity, then we ought to put everyone on unemployment.

    Same goes for government jobs. As long as they’re necessary for the legitimate functions of government, fine, but how many are just make-work or are being performed in waste?

  17. When I see Gov’t plates they get the bird, been doing it for a while. Just make sure they aren’t military.

  18. Paul Ryan is a badass.

  19. His blue ox is cool too.

  20. Yep, leon. He’s part of the handful that I’d spare the guillotine.

  21. Is the the one with the appleseeds?

  22. I fail to see how Paul Ryan voting for Barney Frank and Chris Dodd’s financial fucking clusterfuck makes him anything other than any squishy douche.

  23. HHD is ready for tomorrow AM.

  24. Fuck, Ryan voted for FauxFinReg? Dammit. I liked him, too.

  25. That, xbrad, plus the fact that their salaries are paid with dollars stolen with the force of law.

    I would say “taken” as opposed to “stolen” as taxation is a legitimate role of government. By my heartburn comes from the fact that govt. workers are increasingly making better salaries than private sector workers, all while their benefits are MUCH better than the private sectors. Used to be that one of the prime attractions of working for the govt. was that even if it had crappy salaries, it had great benefits. But when you have working for the govt. being more attractive than working for the private sector, nothing good will come of it.

    Unless you think EVERYONE should work for the govt. Comrade.

  26. His blue ox is cool too.

    Hahahahahahaha.

    His ox was in a porn with Dick?

    SHAME!!!!

  27. Rosetta – What color unitard are you wearing this evening?

  28. HaHa,
    AnitaP in in The Hostages Double Secret group on FaceChimp! Take that, Clintbird!

    /Nelson Muntz

  29. By my heartburn comes from the fact that govt. workers are increasingly making better salaries than private sector workers, all while their benefits are MUCH better than the private sectors.

    Add to the fact that they are union and cannot be fired for incompetence.

  30. Time to take off. I’ll catch you guys later.

  31. BANGLAR POST OFFICE!!!

  32. Where will we be in CT I am talking to a guy from Niantic CT

  33. Rosetta – What color unitard are you wearing this evening?

    Gangsta Puce.

  34. Please don’t throw tomatoes at Mrs. Peel and me. (I was going to say something about not denying us oral sex, but I figure that’s trouble for sure.)

    As long as they’re necessary for the legitimate functions of government, fine, but how many are just make-work or are being performed in waste?

    Way too many. We used to have one person for the lab who handled financial stuff. With full cost accounting, it’s now eight. It’s bullshit.

    The biggest problem is not being able to fire someone for incompetency. I had a secretary that my boss tried for well over a year to fire. She was stupid with the files but knew how to work the system to her advantage. I laughed at the union rep cooling his heels in her office, waiting for her to show up, so they could go over what was going to happen at her hearing. She filed an EEO complaint. We finally got rid of her with a buyout.

  35. frackin’ html

  36. Paul Ryan didn’t vote for Dodd-Frank.

  37. BANGLAR POST OFFICE!!!

    Though postal services have existed on American territory before the United States’ establishment, the USPS’s first incarnation was established by Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia in 1775 by decree of the Second Continental Congress.

  38. Shut up, Clavin.

  39. >> Where will we be in CT I am talking to a guy from Niantic CT

    SOHOS! THAT COMMENT THREAD IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE! GET OUT! GET OUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!

  40. Anyone? Anyone?

  41. Andy, he gots Paul Ryan confused with Scott Brown, ix-nay on the ake-way from the ap-nay… you know how he gets.

  42. Hartford

  43. Windsor CT

  44. Hell, I gotta map out a route to CT. I have no idea where Niantic is?!?!?

  45. Cleveland Ohio

  46. The Sea of Tranquility. Which still has slippery rocks.

  47. Thank u

  48. That route is wrong and anyone from Niantic will spot it.

    Rt 2 is the way to go.

  49. Rocket science = physics

    HTML = quantum physics

  50. Route 66

  51. Fuck! I actually know where Niantic is.

    I’m begging one of you Texans to kidnap me when you’re here. Please.

  52. Generalizations are always wrong.

    Me: http://tinyurl.com/28ygs83

    You: http://tinyurl.com/29b5n6a

    Me meeting Sohos: http://tinyurl.com/27hjr5l

  53. Rosie, I took quantum. Trust me when I say HTML is easier.

    It might be less intuitive, but it’s easier.

  54. MCPO should know about that neck of the woods. Nuke subs are built there.

  55. I once tried to take a girl up Rt 2 but she wasn’t having it.

  56. >>That route is wrong

    Well duh! It’s Mapquest, isn’t it?

  57. Need to distract them with Rt 7 first.

  58. ICEBERG, DEAD AHEAD!!

  59. I once tried to take dork a girl up Rt 2 but she wasn’t having it.

    ficst

  60. ScottW – I’d rather have a sister in a whorehouse than a brother who was a bubblehead!

  61. It might be less intuitive, but it’s easier.

    Hahahahaha. Less intuitive indeed.

    MCPO: What? I have to shove a monkey fist up my squeakhole to do italics? Well that’s not a big deal.

  62. Hahahahahahaha.

    OUT: The Minivan

    IN: Rt 7

  63. Generalizations are always wrong.

    DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

    *head asplodes*

  64. Uh oh…….sausage fest…..

  65. That’s it! I’m filing a complaint against the authors of this book. They’re calling. Vietnamese people Oriental and they’re not, they’re Asian. I’m offended.

  66. I would say “taken” as opposed to “stolen” as taxation is a legitimate role of government.

    IMO, we’re past the point at which our current system of taxation can be considered anything other than theft with the force of law.

  67. Uh oh…….sausage fest…..

    Johnsonville.

  68. I’m offended.

    I thought you was a Catlick??

  69. Jimmy Dean, RIP

  70. I once tried to take a girl up Rt 2 but she wasn’t having it.

    That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

  71. As someone living in Oriental Michigan, I’m also offended.

  72. That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

    No no. I was at a bar, not the zoo.

  73. Jimmy Dean made some good sausage.

    BANGLAR PIGS PIECES!!!

  74. >> That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

    Hey, I was at a bar, not the morgue.

  75. Jimmy Dean???

    NOOOOOO!!

    Oh wait, nevermind. I like Farmer John

  76. That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

    Hey, I was at a bar, not an elementary school playground.

  77. I thought Farmer John was arrested for putting his “junk” in his “sausage”.

    And by “junk” I mean “twig and berries” and by “sausage” I mean “the sausage the Bread buys at the store”.

    ZOMGROSS!!!!!!!!

  78. Can’t Fox find someone else for the All-Star Game? Fuck Joe Buck and Tim McCarver. Shit.

  79. Joe Buck is a prissy sissy and McCarver is incontinent.

  80. That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

    Hey, I was at a bar, not Little Green Footballs.

  81. Don’t act like you don’t eat pieces of junk for breakfast!

  82. Zomg soooo excited

  83. MCPO, exactly. And God forbid, Joe Morgan. If Joe says the pitcher will throw a fastball, you can be sure it will be anything but. Give me Chip Carey or someone who knows which end of the bat to hold.

  84. >> That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

    Hey, I was at a bar, not the Eagles’ locker room.

  85. Wow. Simmer down there interplanet janet.

    Hey look! It’s Joe Buck’s rental car!

    http://tinyurl.com/2a2peqj

  86. Dave u are waiting for me at airport bar right? I will email u my flight info tomorrow you will be able to pick me out of a crowd right?

  87. That’s what you get for trying one of Uniball’s lines.

    Hey, I was at a bar, not a highway rest stop men’s room.

  88. Sohos, is the Niantic person Navy?

  89. Maritime something or other 😉

  90. SoHoS – Are you flying in before PJM??

  91. Yessir

  92. >> Dave u are waiting for me at airport bar right? I will email u my flight info tomorrow you will be able to pick me out of a crowd right?

    Yes sweetness. Head outside after you pick up your luggage, we’ll be out there on the curb, we’ll take the rental car shuttle over to the Avis place together.. you’re only a few minutes behind us.

    I might be smoking.

    cigarettes, ya silly!

  93. President Obama, White House: Al Qaeda Is Racist

    Hey, maybe now he’ll be interested in going after them.

  94. Ok hotstuff I am NOT checking luggage I am leaving the bar now headed home this lady is next wasted and fuckin’ CRAZY

  95. Hahahahahaha, I love starting shit.

  96. ok babe.. we’ll drive over with Cyn and put our drink on post haste.. no reason to hang out at the airport bar (it sucks. I know. Been there).

  97. SoHos/DinTejas – I’ll meet you guys at the Doubleweed bar and drink ginger-ale until I have to go get PJM.

  98. This is so very wrong.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9y4zFEr0V8

    but it’s still better than listening to McCarver.

  99. MCPO, I admire your logistical expertise. We execute at 1800.

  100. Luggage? That is old school.

  101. DaveinTejas – Roger, 1800 at the bar in the Doubleweed. I’ll be the bald guy in the chartreuse unitard.

  102. I would say “taken” as opposed to “stolen” as taxation is a legitimate role of government.

    It retains its legitimacy only as long as it it put to legitimate purposes. Once we started to get jacked up for some people’s medical care, mid-night basketball, and transferring my tax payments to people who didn’t pay taxes with “refundable credits”, it kinda went off the rails.

  103. Scott, I’d ship it to you, but what if sometime Friday night I needed to grab the emerald green thong? And Fedex fucked it up?

    I’d feel naked without it.

    I’d be naked without it.

  104. I need help pondering this:

    According to kelman and Hamilton, social processes can create conditions under which usual restraints against violence are weakened.

    Can you think of incidents in your own life when you’ve done something – perhaps harmed or humiliated another person – because of the powerful influence of others?

    How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

  105. Both choices (don’t bust my hump about homosexuality not being a choice because you’ll miss the point) should be protected and those choosing either should never be discriminated against.

    Why would I bust your hump about it? The burden of proof lies with them.

  106. I wish Rutherford was here, he’d help me

  107. >> How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

    Totally false premise. On two counts, first, the 9/11 hijack-death attacks were pre-meditated, years in the making. Second, the moral equivalence of the 9/11 murders as compared to the abuses of Iraqi prisoners. These things are not in the same zip code.

    This is not a serious question.

  108. How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

    Because those are exactly the same thing, right?

  109. Thisx All Star Game is pretty dull. Gonna go watch Jeopardy.

  110. This is a serious question Dave, I took it straight out of my text book, scary eh?

  111. I need help pondering this:

    According to kelman and Hamilton, social processes can create conditions under which usual restraints against violence are weakened.

    Can you think of incidents in your own life when you’ve done something – perhaps harmed or humiliated another person – because of the powerful influence of others?

    How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

    Kelman and Hamilton are douchebag assholes who want to provide excuses for people who never learned self-control or restraint and therefore never learned that unless provoked to the extent that no civilized person could be expected to endure (such as watching your nation’s leader apologize to people who are owed no apology, watching a kleptocratic government generously reward freinds and allies with large amounts of the public fisk, intentionally use the mechanisms of government to fuck with anyone who goes against their policy initiaitves and agendas, lecture them constantly about things that don’t exist, like their racism because they have realized that asshattery knows no skin color, and their bigotry because they are possessed of the curious notion that borders and citizenship mean something) that no societal process will condone or excuse the cold-blooded murder of thousands of civilians by flying jetliners into skyscrapers.

    Did that help?

  112. Kinda gripes to have to pay for this, doesn’t it?

    The underlying premise is “they just went along with their encouragers”. There’s a certain level of commitment in the first that is absent from the second.

  113. Rutherford would get you an A.

  114. This is a serious question Dave, I took it straight out of my text book, scary eh?

    Serious or not, it’s based on the false premise that the hijackers did what they did out of peer pressure. They might have a point with Abu Grhaib, though.

  115. This class costs a LOT of money and pretty much any degree you want to get, requires this class.

    Business
    Nursing
    Teaching
    Geography
    Computer science

  116. Who the fuck wrote your textbook? Your teacher? That’s not EVEN a serious question. Someone who asked such a thing should be examined, then incarcerated.

  117. Someone who asked such a thing should be examined, then incarcerated.

    In the “fuck-me-in-the-ass-until-I-bleed-out” prison.

  118. I understand PJ. I paid for one of those.

    I get it, it’s galling.

  119. How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

    They might blame Bush for both events. I bet they would. They’d be wrong, but that’s what they might say, so it’s an objectively correct answer to the question as posed.

  120. I was told there would be math in this course.

  121. I just KNEW the hostages would brainwash my pathetic wee mind with the appropriate…….

    Wait, those responses will get me in trouble

  122. you really have to find your inner goober and not ask us questions. we’re not helpful

  123. Beer.

  124. Vodka, lime, tonic water.

  125. I was told there would be math in this course.

    Maths, I only get maths.

  126. Wut kinda vodka?

  127. what kind you got?

  128. Wut kinda vodka?

    Very Strong.

  129. Maths, I only get maths.

    There’s always a Brit-wannabe in the crowd.

  130. Dirty martini

  131. You’re a dirty, dirty little martini and you deserve a spanking.

  132. There’s always a Brit-wannabe in the crowd.

    No, I just never got math unless it was plural.

  133. you deserve a spanking.

    Yes, I do Dave.

  134. I get in a little earlier than the rest of y’all, so I’ll be sitting in the lobby (if there is a good place to sit in the lobby) reading on my Nook.

    PJ, that sounds like a fancy way of saying peer pressure is bad.

  135. What’s all this PolitiFact stuff from AoS today?

    Should I read through it?

  136. mesa, it’s good stuff.

  137. Peelie, I’ll call ya when we hit the ground

  138. I’ll be sitting in the lobby (if there is a good place to sit in the lobby) reading on my Nook.

    Don’t mind me, I’ll be leering from the corner…

    Don’t think about that while you are sitting there.

  139. Dave, seems like it — gonna go reed sum stuf.

  140. OT, and sure to get you to laugh out loud:

  141. Yeah that is good stuff. I’ll have to buy Slu a beer or two Saturday for that detective work.

  142. I get in a little earlier than the rest of y’all, so I’ll be sitting in the lobby (if there is a good place to sit in the lobby) reading on my Nook.

    Your Cranny feels left out.

  143. Slublog was on fire today.

  144. What’s all this PolitiFact stuff from AoS today?

    He’s defending The Chart against PolitiFact (what is this “barely true” business? Is it true or not, PolitiFact? Oh it is? Then hesh up.).

  145. barely true. gotta love that.

  146. OT, and sure to get you to laugh out loud:

    Why would we laugh at Dave’s wedding picture?

    Smoove.

  147. Thanks Geoff, I readed all the stuff — time for our austerity programs.

    That’s what the federal government is for.

  148. Don’t mind me, I’ll be leering from the corner…

    for some reason, that makes me think of Aqualung.

  149. Hell Daddy! She’s barely pregnant!

  150. barely true

    The new Ratherism.

  151. for some reason, that makes me think of Aqualung.

    We’ll bring some kleenex.

  152. Sitting on an airport bench…

    With Michael’s clarinet….

  153. How bout this one peel?

    …..the defoliation of vast forest areas helped legitimize acts of massive violence of the kind occurring at My Lai.

    Seriously, I can’t even pretend to understand that one

  154. Snot running down his nose,
    Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. . .

  155. I barely kilt him!

  156. Thick as a Taser…

  157. AD,
    It probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
    Can you imagine looking at it 20 years later? Maybe with your children, without covering your face in shame and thinking, “What The Fuck Was I Thinking” when I did that?

  158. Sitting on an airport bench…

    With Michael’s clarinet….

    C’mon, sing that to the song.

    Classic.

  159. HAHAHAHA!!!

    I just saw agiledog’s wedding photo. What’s with the fake fur on your shoulders? Did your dogs hunt and kill that?

  160. Plus, It digs on Michael.

    Awesomeness.

  161. I can’t be there next weekend to do it in person — well, he probably wouldn’t look at me anyway. Oh, well.

  162. I actually had to look up the word defoliation in case it meant something other than what I thought it did

  163. PJM – It just means getting rid of your bush.

  164. Wait. That’s really AD?

    Your wife is hot.

  165. Except Aqualung makes Michael seem almost, I dunno, human.

  166. Bungle in the airport?

  167. Dammit — MC beat me.

    STOP BEATING ME!!!!

  168. Did your dogs hunt and kill that?

    Nope. I caught it and kilt it and skin’d it myself. 🙂

    Chris, the funny thing was, it was in the Austin Rose Garden – a very public place. A Japanese tour group came through at the time – they took a million pictures of the “native American ritual”.

    Yes, I got married outside, in Austin TX, in July (103 that day). Glad I rented that tux.

  169. Bungle in the airport?

    That’s alright with me.

  170. jazz clarinet is for sissyboys.

  171. AD – Don’t worry. Everyone looks like a dork in a monkey suit:

  172. Heheh Mesa

    Aeroplane Breath? or Locomotive Peel?

  173. Don’t worry. Everyone looks like a dork in a monkey suit:

    Well, hello thir…

  174. Umm…well…trees are awesome, so if people kill awesome, they’ll be ok with killing people? I guess?

    You should write something about how whales’ massive consumption of krill legitimizes Japanese overfishing. That would kick ass.

  175. I like your thripes.

  176. Krill could feed everyone on the planet — if they didn’t have feeeeelings!!!

  177. Mesa – Don’t be jealous.

  178. Everyone looks like a dork in a monkey suit:

    With shiny gold stripes, even!

    Serious question: What are the five decorations (plus some kind of wings? it’s a little blurry) you wore?

  179. …..the defoliation of vast forest areas helped legitimize acts of massive violence of the kind occurring at My Lai.

    Rice, it was always about the rice…

  180. Hahaha, that sounds like a great master’s thesis peel!

    You guys only have to put up with this class till July 31st, then we’ll move onto a new class in September.

    No class in august

  181. Mesa – Don’t be jealous.

    Why, because your thripes are purtier?

    I don’t have no stinking thripes.

    Blues? A Sword?

    Yup.

  182. (plus some kind of wings? it’s a little blurry)

    “Blurry wings to rule them all
    Blurry wings to find them…”

  183. Your fist’s in the gutter, your goatse’s in the sink

  184. Rice, it was always about the rice…

    I’m having at whatever that goofball’s name was in Antarctica flashback. Some of Dave’s best work. Where is that hiding?

  185. Wings are used to hold your maxipad in place

  186. AD – EAWS Wings

    Navy Commendation Medal, Navy Achievement, Good Conduct, Navy/Marine Corps Expeditionary, and National Defense.

  187. Kinda sad when I have to explain my own stuff and then credit it.

  188. If everyone chose to work for government, no one would be left to pay for government. If everyone was gay, that would leave no one to procreate. As I see it, these are indisputable facts. Again, this is not to say that homosexuals or public sector employees should be discriminated against, but there is a fundamental difference between them and their opposites.

    *scratches head*

    Did Rosetta just say something intelligent?

    Somebody help my out. My world is turning upside down. I was gonna give him a wedgie in Connecticut, but now I’m not so sure that’s a good idea.

  189. …..the defoliation of vast forest areas helped legitimize acts of massive violence of the kind occurring at My Lai.

    I was in…Sang Bang… Dang Gong… I was all over the place, a lot of places.

    I was with the Green Berets, Special Unit Battalions… Commando Airborne Tactics… Specialist Tactics Unit Battalion.

    Yeah, it was real hush hush. I was Agent Orange, Special Agent Orange, that was me.

  190. Good Conduct,

    You? Good Conduct? Really? Must be the definition of “Good” that goes something like “didn’t get caught with the Admiral’s daughter or the Captain’s wife”

  191. Wings are used to hold your maxipad in place

    Not a staple gun?

  192. Can you think of incidents in your own life when you’ve done something – perhaps harmed or humiliated another person – because of the powerful influence of others?

    I made Bart go away, and I don’t regret it.

  193. AD – I never got caught after my first tour.

  194. Kinda sad when I have to explain my own stuff and then credit it.

    I caught it the first time. He republished that at one point in its entirety, but I don’t recall where.

  195. All kidding aside, that a pretty smoking pic, FMC.

    Yes, I’m not hitting on you.

  196. I made Bart go away, and I don’t regret it.

    Does this look like the confessional on some MTV reality show? No, I didn’t think so either.

  197. Mesa – I was but a young Senior Chief at the time. Hell, I didn’t have a gray hair or an EEO complaint filed against me yet!

  198. Proud Liberal Vet, mesa. I saved Antarctica Now here: http://skylarkofvaleron.blogspot.com/2006/03/antarctica-now.html

  199. I made Bart go away, and I don’t regret it.

    I regret it and you know I like you.

    He was what he was.

    Couldn’t you have tried to save him with a casserole?

  200. Peel — you rock.

    There was also an audio version. Not kidding.

  201. Who missed me?

  202. Wow – Antarctica Now is from December 2005? How long have we been doing this?

  203. Oh yea. Right. I hate you all.

  204. […] Inspired by my good friend, Rosetta the Racist, by his latest post at the H2. […]

  205. And, everyone that doesn’t know the back story on what Peelie just linked, there was a troll at AoS four years ago that claimed all kinds of incredible experience to justify his strawman arguments — and even less than strawman. Just crazy stuff.

    Served in Antarctica — it goes from there.

    Beautiful work by Dave. That’s when I knew I lurved him.

  206. PJM – It just means getting rid of your bush.

    After I week of camping … I might need that.

  207. *looking at old blog* Huh. Apparently I supported Israel “too much” – I had a ton of anti-Israel trolls show up even on unrelated posts.

    For example, see the comments here: http://skylarkofvaleron.blogspot.com/2006/07/i-just-saw-my-first.html

  208. Antarctica Now is one of the funniest things ever put on the Interwebz. Ever.

  209. YAY! It’s Carin!!

    Where are you??

  210. Michael,

    I liked Bart, you dick.

    Also: What are the dates for the Texas meat-up? I already got a place to flop.

  211. Mesa – I was but a young Senior Chief at the time.

    Heh, I tried to tell, couldn’t see for sure — also, always had a hard time remembering senior Navy enlisted ratings. Didn’t have enough experience with them.

    Still looks slick.

  212. Who missed me?

    It wasn’t any of us. We’re all good shots.

  213. I regret it and you know I like you.

    He was what he was.

    True. Sorta like Doug. We both like him, but . . .

    You know I like you too, by the way. Just want to get that on the record.

    I actually really liked Bart, as a man, with some solid Christian values, never mind that he was as fucked up as he was.

    But, I was forced to turn on him by peer pressure.

    OK, not actually peer pressure. He started in on Gabe, a hot button for me, and I lost my cool.

  214. Lapeer, Michigan, Chief.

  215. [notes Agile Dog down for exta barefoot ass-kicking]

  216. and I lost my cool

    I think the word you’re looking for is “composure”. I’m not sure you ever had any “cool”. You started IB for cryin out loud.

  217. We both like him, but . . . You know I like you too,

    The prospect of repealing DADT is having more widespread repercussions than I’d thought it would..

  218. Who missed me?

    Nobody.

    Stop being such an attention whore.

  219. Lapeer, Michigan, Chief.

    Home of a prison and a lame Saturday night cruise.

  220. are you jewish or just mad

    Both?

  221. I went to :

    Ohiopyle – white water rafting (pictures to follow)
    Gettysburg
    Philadelphia
    Hershey

    home again home again.

    I LOVED Gettysburg.

    LOVED it.

  222. Nobody.
    Stop being such an attention whore.

    Eat me, Batman.

  223. I’m not sure you ever had any “cool”. You started IB for cryin out loud.

    Just to keep the record straight, I did not start IB. Retired Geezer did it as a joke. He was copying my comments from AOSHQ onto this blog he made.

    Long story short — the IBers were talking to each other on this Jack Michaels blog, and Jack crapped out on us. So that traffic moved to IB, which became the legend it now is.

  224. Eat me, Batman.

    *cringes*

    Carin – you might want to try a different tack.

  225. Lapeer, Michigan, Chief.
    Home of a prison and a lame Saturday night cruise.

    LIAR. They don’t have any Saturday night cruses up here.

  226. True. Sorta like Doug. We both like him, but . . .

    Yes, just talked to him on the phone for the first time in over a year and we are back on great terms — like we never took a break from talking.

    But, I know him in real life and we will always be friends.

    Bart was an eccentric wit. That’s what I liked about him.

    He was wrong on the Gabe thing.

    You tore him up here.

    I forgive you.

  227. LIAR. They don’t have any Saturday night cruses up here.

    The Hell you say. I participated in many a one there in between 1988 and 1990.

  228. Eat me, Batman.

    OK. Are you going to be in Connecticut?

  229. Eat me, Batman.
    *cringes*
    Carin – you might want to try a different tack.

    Huh. Lemme try again..

    Suck my dick, Batman

    how’s that?

    Look, i’ve driven ten hours, then drank the better part of a bottle of wine after 10 days of sobriety. I can take this to eleven if I have to.

  230. When I read bungle in the airport I said its alright by me… But SOMEONE beat me to it

  231. after 10 days of sobriety

    Obama says we don’t do torture anymore. You Lie!

  232. Night all. Have to work tomorrow.

  233. Yes, just talked to him on the phone for the first time in over a year and we are back on great terms — like we never took a break from talking.

    Doug and I have stayed in touch by email. He actually has tipped me to some stuff I posted at IB.

    You tore him up here. I forgive you.

    Well, thanks for that, Mesa. I appreciate that.

    It was not me at my Lutheran best.

    It’s not a moment I am proud of.

  234. Carin – So, you were 25 minutes from my hobbit hole and didn’t bother to call me??

  235. So, you were 25 minutes from my hobbit hole

    I think most people would steer a wide berth around MCPO’s “hobbit hole.”

  236. I want to go in so many directions with the doug conversationa anD he and mesa being “friends” but I guess I shouldnt

  237. I can take this to eleven if I have to.

    Look, sugartits, I really really don’t think you want to challenge me like that. Go to sleep.

    Love you.

  238. I missed you, Carin. Go ahead, say it. I’ve missed hearing it.

  239. I think most people would steer a wide berth around MCPO’s “hobbit hole.”

    Tolkeinist!!

  240. Nobody has woken up on time in about a wk around here. And it’s all your fuckin’ fault Car in. Get your ass back in the groove girl.

  241. But SOMEONE beat me to it

    Me!!!

    I understand on the Doug stuff, Sohos.

    It’s been a year since I talked to him because of that stuff.

    He’s admitted his wrong doing in that to me — and, we’re getting back to the good stuff. Outside of here.

  242. I’ll say it PA. Tomorrow morning:)

    Chief – yes. 25 min from you and I didn’t bring your phone number because i’m a loser.

    But we were so rushed everywhere it would have sucked anyway.

    And I ran the whole “I could spend a day in a bar with the Chief getting drunk while you take the kids on a tour of the battlefield” and my husband wasn’t exactly cool with that.

    But it really was frackin amazing. We stayed at …. crap. Some park south of town? Caladone or something? sound familiar?

  243. It’s “Tolkien,” Chief. The “i” comes before the “e.”

    No problem. We don’t expect Navy to be smart.

  244. Well, thanks for that, Mesa. I appreciate that.

    Never any worries.

  245. I can take this to eleven if I have to.
    Look, sugartits, I really really don’t think you want to challenge me like that. Go to sleep

    YOU’RE NOT MY REAL DAD.

  246. Well that’s all you can ask for isn’t it babe?

  247. Doug is also getting over his totally unrealistic Tasha thing, which is all good. That was never going to work.

  248. How you doin’ PA?

  249. No problem. We don’t expect Navy to be smart.

    Fuck you.

  250. That was with a wink, btw.

  251. That isn’t her blog name is it?

  252. Carin – Caledonia State Park. It’s on South Mountain. . . really nice place.

  253. Not to kiss up, but I fricken love the navy.

    Honestly, I love all the branches of the military. I’m a slut like that.

  254. Michael, that was the worst thing about that whole situation.

  255. YOU’RE NOT MY REAL DAD.

    Car in, there is no way you can know that for sure. I am old enough, and your Mom was a fine lookin’ woman.

  256. Yes. That’s it. I did a few nice runs there. Loverly. My only work-outs in a week.

    The next place we stayed, near Phili- OMG, it was teh biggest fricken up-hill walk to the bathrooms.

    Sucked.

    Hershey actually had a nice campground. I was pleasantly surprised.

  257. How were the bathrooms in Hershey?

  258. How were the bathrooms in Hershey?

    Conveniently located just under the Hersey Highway.

  259. Yes his whole fight With me was b/c he mistakenly thought there had been some slight against natasha on my part as if something to do with actually HERS are bigger lol

  260. Carin, I missed you. I tried to do the wakey wakey in your place and got called turkey bacon for it.

  261. How were the bathrooms in Hershey?

    Heh. They weren’t uphill, so that was a plus.

  262. Michael, that was the worst thing about that whole situation.

    No shit. It was just Doug’s latest excuse not to get on with his life. Can’t have been good for Tasha either. I’m glad she got over it.

  263. Roamy, I’m sorry to hear that happened to you.

    [[[[[Roamy]]]]]]

  264. Batman, I’m pretty sure you’re not my father. I mean, my dad looks amazingly like me, and then there was that whole 4 point genetic mat-up.

    I’m just saying. I’m pretty sure you’re not my real dad.

    But my mom prolly was pretty easy back when I was conceived.

  265. Honestly, I love all the branches of the military. I’m a slut like that.

    May I assume that this attitude includes the heroic veterans of a Boy Scout Marching Band?

  266. Almost midnight thirty here. Going out to see how far west Ursa Major has gotten this evening and then off to dreamland.

    Good night, all.

  267. Derp.

  268. I’m glad she got over it.

    Yup, talked to her on the phone a few times, as well, and she is an awesome person. I think she just wanted to help him and remembered something that couldn’t be recaptured.

  269. May I assume that this attitude includes the heroic veterans of a Boy Scout Marching Band?

    You know what happens when you assume …

    I think I’m gonna gonna join chief in bed.

    see you folks for the wakey wakey. Sean , can you stay up until then?

  270. Goodnight fibf hug herself for me pleas

  271. May I assume that this attitude includes the heroic veterans of a Boy Scout Marching Band?

    DADT in effect.

  272. I hear the mosquito spraying trucks driving around — THANK YOU GOD!!!

  273. Sean , can you stay up until then?

    Meth is a hell of a drug.

  274. Sean are u coming to CT?

  275. I think I’m gonna gonna join chief in bed.

    Whoa, big mistake.

    Let’s face it, Car in, you want me and I want you.

    We should not miss out on the opportunity to have 45 seconds of ecstasy together.

  276. We should not miss out on the opportunity to have 45 seconds of ecstasy together.

    Does that come before or after she asks “Is it in yet?”

  277. Ass U Me

  278. We should not miss out on the opportunity to have 45 seconds of ecstasy together.

    15 seconds of ecstasy and 30 seconds of pretending it was ecstasy.

    But, who am I to judge?

  279. But, who am I to judge?

    You’re Gumby, Dammit!

  280. So?

  281. 30 seconds of pretending it was ecstasy.

    Such women exist?

  282. Such women exist?

    Long ago, in a far, far place.

    I think.

    Maybe.

    If I wish really hard.

  283. There are negroes in the header picture!

    *Covers mouth in utter shock.*

  284. Pictured somewhere to somewhere else: Random Hostages, This Poat

  285. Fucking TCM. They are showing “Captain Horatio Hornblower” at 8 next Monday. Eastern Time.

    It will be half over by the time I get home.

  286. I missed carin.

    I needed her to help me write my paper.

  287. There are negroes in the header picture!

    I’m not sure that they’re authentic though. I’ll check and get back to ya.

  288. Goodnight 2 more days!!!

  289. It will be half over by the time I get home.

    Quit talking about your wife’s sex life on the tittyweb jenkins.

  290. I think she just wanted to help him and remembered something that couldn’t be recaptured.

    Yeah, well.

    You, me, Cathy and Tasha all know that helping Doug is a fool’s errand. It actually has adverse consequences for him.

    He has to help himself.

  291. *pats self on back

    I was able to work in the “greed of the oil companies” into my paper.

    I had NO idea it was going to be this hard to pretend to be a liberal.

  292. I’m not sayin’ that it is wrong to be Doug’s friend.

    Just don’t be his rescuer.

  293. Soohoo is prolly in bed by now (I had to finish an article that will actually pay) but, no, I’m not going to the meat-up.

    The money I have right now barely folds.

  294. 15 seconds of ecstasy and 30 seconds of pretending it was ecstasy.

    OK, look, Cathy says it’s like 20 seconds of mildly amusing before she gets sleepy.

    So, I’m just sayin’, I can deliver for 20 seconds.

    I’m a stud.

  295. I was able to work in the “greed of the oil companies” into my paper.

    If you forgot to mention Halliburton, you don’t deserve more than a B-.

  296. I’m a stud.

    So Cathy is tired of having sex with you, so she sent you off to Kentucky?

  297. If you forgot to mention Halliburton, you don’t deserve more than a B-.

    but I’m talking about the evil military and how they create murderers AND the destruction of the earth because of all that oil.

    Doesn’t that count for sumpin’?

  298. Silly Peej, don’t you know that it’s all connected? If not, you will.

    YOU. WILL.

  299. Doesn’t that count for sumpin’?

    Maybe, if you juice it up with horrific references to water-boarding by the CIA and atrocities committed at Gitmo.

  300. Just don’t be his rescuer.

    Nor an enabler.

    We all were for a short time.

    He’s finding a base through his brother’s kids. And his brother and his wife. All who he was very public about.

    Anyway, no reason to drag someone’s life out so publicly. It is what it is.

    Anyway, Miami Blue was just on.

    Alec Baldwin used to be the thin and good looking brother and play parts in somewhat sketchy films. Loved that movie when it first came out.

    It was pretty much just a horrible flick.

    Good thing I retired my raw silk blazers a couple of months ago when the dust stains got too much to deal with.

    Alec is now the big fat guy that plays second fiddle to some chick that used to be on the bad SNL in a bad show where he is the fake Republican who then calls into radio shows and promises to leave the country in real life.

  301. Previous comment was written after other comments.

    TTAIM

  302. Gitmo has already been included Michael.

    Did you see the quote from my textbook I gave the hostages today?

    According to kelman and Hamilton, social processes can create conditions under which usual restraints against violence are weakened.

    Can you think of incidents in your own life when you’ve done something – perhaps harmed or humiliated another person – because of the powerful influence of others?

    How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

  303. I’m a stud.

    You are the luckiest man on the planet.

    And you know it.

  304. I just changed the subject — did anyone notice?

  305. a subject?

    at the hostages?

  306. Yeah.

    What’s that?

    How many chickens got killed this week?

  307. How might kelman and Hamilton explain the actions of the individuals who carried out the hijackings and attacks of September 11, 2001, or of the American soldiers who abused Iraqi prisoners in their custody?

    1.) A coordinated conspiracy of murderous, hateful, fascist religious nutjobs.

    2.) Buncha fucking jagoffs.

  308. How many chickens got killed this week?

    Do voodoo sacrifices count?

  309. 1.) A coordinated conspiracy of murderous, hateful, fascist religious nutjobs.

    2.) Buncha fucking jagoffs.

    thanks, I’ll submit that answer

    *takes last two chicken feathers and creates conjoined mesa/seanm voodoo dolls

  310. Do voodoo sacrifices count?

    You moved away from Florida, so, yes. They count.

  311. *takes last two chicken feathers and creates conjoined mesa/seanm voodoo dolls

    You may have some of my feathers, but you ain’t got any of my hair, woman!!!

  312. You may have some of my feathers, but you ain’t got any of my hair, woman!!!

    You think b-rad didn’t hook me up?

    WRONG!!!!!!!!

  313. ok, paper is done. I’m going nighty night

    I’m not even sure what I wrote, but I think my final line ending with

    BUSHITLER!!!!!!

    was a masterpiece

  314. I think my final line ending with

    BUSHITLER!!!!!!

    was a masterpiece

    1.) A+

    2.) Coward

    3.) Good idea

  315. Not scared at all.

  316. Hmmm. I would think that she would be well rested after a week off.

  317. You would think so, wouldn’t you.

  318. I say we shun her.

    “I had NO idea it was going to be this hard to pretend to be a liberal.”
    That’s why we don’t see too many conservative trolls. It’s too damned hard.

  319. We should write her up.

  320. >> They are showing “Captain Horatio Hornblower” at 8 next Monday. Eastern Time.

    Pacific Time is for suckers.

  321. crap

  322. Oh, good grief. Vaseline skin-lightener for men

    http://is.gd/drBWq

  323. Wakey wakey.

    I needed to rest up/sleep in from my vacation.

  324. Thank you, Carin. And, BTW, I did tell Roamy no offense when I criticized her turkey bacon. I wasn’t bitchy about it. Needy, maybe, but not bitchy.

  325. I mean, I WAS in a campground in a pop-up. I woke up when the birds woke me up.

  326. OH, I so totally found some books I want to read while at Gettysburg. I’d already sent my husband with four books to the register, so I didn’t think he’d be happy about another pile. Anyone read the Shaara books on the Civil War?

  327. Yes, they’re quite good.

  328. Is this poat still around? It was being rolled up into little balls and pushed towards little miniature underground bunkers by nanobots when I left out of here last night. Somebody torch this corpse.

  329. Cool. Just ordered the first.

  330. Hey, I just read that Obama is claiming Al Queda is racist. Does that mean he’s gonna start calling them terrorists?

  331. Yes.

    Welcome back, nice little lady.

    Anyone interview you on your vacation?

  332. This is the reason my daughter is such a shitty mom. She says this is the best article ever.

    http://tinyurl.com/29g2euj

    I say, if she would just for one week make no mean no, she would have a little more time on her hands. Also, a three year old is not the cnter of an adult’s universe.

    *sigh*

  333. Not yet.

    We had a nice time. It was awesome to get home.

  334. “Gods and Generals”, and “The Last Full Measure” are Jeff Shaara’s prequel and sequel to his fathers book “The Killer Angels” (which won a Pulitzer I think). He did a great job melting them together, even though they were written many years after “The Killer Angels”, which is about Gettysburg. He used his dad’s style, which was to focus on the important officers in both armies to tell the stories.

    I heard he did a series on WWII that I want to take a look at.


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