Fat Herd

I don’t even know what to say about this:

But here are some options:

(1) This guy, likely, is not the dumbest person in Congress.

(L) The fact that he voted for ObamaCare should make everyone shit the bed and then tattoo “REPEAL” on their head with a pitchfork tine.

(7) If I was a Harry-Reid-approved light-skinned negro, I would take a hit out on this guy to thin the herd and raise the collective IQ of the race by 4.398%.  And I’m talking about the human race.

(&) Even if I was a 5-star General, if I was questioned by that dumbass POS, I would stand up and say that I refuse to further embarrass and degrade the armed services of the United States of America by listening to an obvious crackhead piece of douche.

RACIST TEABAGGER!!!!

Lest you thing I’m a real racist, when you’re as dumb as those fucks, I can’t see what color you are because I’m blinded by your white-hot stupidity.  And given the chance, I would stuff you in a fucking wood chipper.  No offense to wood chippers.

Fucking idiots.

439 Comments

  1. jebus, I stay up for this?

    *drinks gasoline to ease the pain*

  2. OBAMA MONEY!!!!

  3. Aww, Eddie, don’t drink the gasoline. Douse yourself in it and light yourself on fire. You’ll forget all about your brain hurting.

  4. FIST!!!

    (And, yes, I’m aware that I wasn’t first.)

  5. &

  6. RAAAAAACCCCEEEEEEEtrack.

  7. Rosetta, I knew you’d be on this like stink on Puka’s turds.

    Well done, friend douche!

  8. Obama has a ‘stache?

    http://tinyurl.com/yg6tx7c

    RACIST TEABAGGER!!!!

  9. “Lest you thing I’m a real racist, when you’re as dumb as those fucks, I can’t see what color you are because I’m blinded by your white-hot stupidity.”

    hahahahahahahaah……That’s the kind of line that keeps me coming back to Hostages.

  10. Wondertwin powers–form of…DOUCHE!!!

  11. This post will surely give me…

    http://tinyurl.com/yf2s5kw

  12. From the other thread
    The funny thing is, you can’t “ma’am” women in the North. They will be insulted. They interpret it as sexist, or a derogatory comment about her age.

    New lady, a contractor, got all miffed when one of the Southern gentlemen opened the door for her. “I can do it myself!” Well, lady, you just pissed off your best hope for getting your project done. Next time, smile, say thank you, even jiggle a bit as you step through.

  13. Hey, I don’t stuff.

    It’s all natural, baby.

  14. Obama has a ’stache?

    Yay!!! Sean M.

  15. “Wondertwin powers–form of…DOUCHE!!!”

    Sean, you are too smart for my own good. Once I typed it, I knew that it could be taken two ways. Leave it to smarty pants Cal hippy to call me on it.

    (Just another reason I love you.)

  16. Roamy, I’ve never had a woman get pissed at me about opening a door for them, anywhere. Not even in Berkeley. Then again, I hold doors open for both men and women, young and old. Aside from the drinking and smoking and swearing, my mom raised me kind of right.

    That contractor was just a bitch who doesn’t appreciate politeness.

  17. That contractor was just a bitch who doesn’t appreciate politeness.

    I don’t see how she can walk straight with the chip she has on her shoulder. She shit in her mess kit with me by going over my head to the team lead and branch chief, without even talking to me first.

  18. Dang, two positive comments in a row!

    If I give you both my checking account information, can I be sure that you’ll donate a few bucks instead of cleaning me out?

    (I should mention that I’m very trusting and not at all a law enforcement agent.)

  19. She shit in her mess kit …

    HHAHAHHAHAHHA\\

    I haven’t heard that one in a long, loooooong time.

  20. Rosetta, that first “thumbs up” rating was me.

    A big part of our racial problem in America is that, in fact, we are not having an honest conversation about race, as Obama urged.

    We’re not actually talking about the systemic poisons that foster black dependency and stupidity.

  21. I hold doors open for everyone too. I am especially conscience of doing it for teenagers.

    A) I like the surprised look on their face.

    B) It’s fun to say, “You’re welcome, have a nice day.”

    C) When they don’t respond with a, “Thank you.” I use it as a learning tool for my daughter who is always with me. The lesson is lost on her because she would do it anyway. She’s the type that returns carts to their proper place, picks up garbage in front of her and feels responsible to do the right thing even when people aren’t looking.

  22. Roamy, simply enjoy your mental superiority over this twit.

    (Then get her when she least expects it.)

  23. Um, mesa, there’s a thing that a few people here use occasionally called TinyURL.com. You might want to look into that.

  24. Might try this, Mesa:

    http://tinyurl.com/u

  25. I like shady url — http://www.shadyurl.com/

  26. Damn you, Sean.

  27. (Just another reason I love you.)

    I see you right there trying to make me jealous.

    I know the game you’re playing, missy.

    What pisses me off is that it works.

  28. Apparently you like it, but you two aren’t close.

  29. XBrad, there are a large number of former military men at NASA, mostly Army, but the other services are represented, too. And, no, the Navy men do not dance with the Marines.

  30. It’s fun to say, “You’re welcome, have a nice day.”

    I prefer to say, “FUCKING HURRY UP, ASSHOLE!!! DON’T YOU KNOW THAT SLOTH IS ONE OF THE SEVEN FUCKING DEADLY SINS!!?? AND I DON’T MEAN THE FUCKING ANIMAL!!!”

    (I always get weird looks at church weddings, funerals, and baptisms for some reason.)

  31. Of course the squids don’t dance with the Marines.

    They dance with the Air Force guys.

  32. hahahaha, CongresswoMAN!!!

  33. I love that tune:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHgQ6oHne3M

  34. They dance with the Air Force guys.

    We do them like Superman.

  35. If I give you both my checking account information, can I be sure that you’ll donate a few bucks instead of cleaning me out?

    Dude, whoa, be careful.

    Send me an email. I know this Nigerian banker who has a great deal for you.

  36. Batman, you realize that I made that comment, not Sky?

    When I sit back and think about it, run the numbers, assess the pros and cons, review the generosity, thoughtfulness, caring and willingness to help, I’ve decided I do indeed love the Hostages.

  37. do them like Superman? what do you do, wear a cape?

  38. do them like Superman? what do you do, wear a cape?

    It’s not like we’re going to take it off.

  39. He leaps on them in a single bound.

  40. ah. I’ll remember that.

  41. (Even Michael.)

  42. Is this wrong?

  43. Batman, you realize that I made that comment, not Sky?

    It doesn’t matter which woman compliments me. Bruce just didn’t get enough love from his mother when he was a little kid.

    (Too soon?)

  44. They finish faster than a speeding bullet.

  45. Batman, you realize that I made that comment, not Sky?

    *scrolls up*

    Uh, no.

    I fucked up.

    Maybe I can fix this with a display of emotion.

    Here is how I feel about Sky (who is Stella to me):

  46. Larry Niven’s version of Superman love.

  47. Sean, wtf is up with your dog?

  48. Aww, I love you too Batman.

  49. That is wrong.

    (not the chicken/snake/perv)

    the doguin.

  50. Well, she is young, attractive, fun and a good sport. I approve your fantasy girl.

    I do want to meet Cathy. Did I ever remind you when I was commenting at IB, you were discussing a previous IB get-together. Cathy gave me the link of the fun and I remember thinking these look like terrific people. If appropriate, I would love to see those pictures again.

    I remember Eddie and his daughter were going to stay in one of your guest rooms.
    Everyone was talking about what they were going to bring to eat. I was envious. It sounded great.

  51. Sean, wtf is up with your dog?

    http://i.imgur.com/bsQeq.jpg

    My dog is a cocker spaniel. That was Danny DeVito.

  52. Aww, I love you too Batman.

    Thank you.

    It is hard for me to display my true feelings in public.

  53. Sean, wtf is up with your dog?

    Reminds me of the zombie denguin from One Piece.

  54. It is hard for me to display my true feelings in public.

    Take heart. Someday NAMBLA will prevail.

  55. Take heart. Someday NAMBLA will prevail.

    That was probably too rude. How ’bout “the Richard Simmons fan club will come into its own?”

  56. I remember Eddie and his daughter were going to stay in one of your guest rooms.

    They did. Eddie actually has sired the most precious daughter on the planet, next to mine. She is amazing.

  57. Take heart. Someday NAMBLA will prevail.

    I had no Idea that Bruce was a member of the North American Marlon Brando Lookalikes Association.

    Huh. You learn something every day.

    Oh, wait…

  58. Michael, do you have just the one daughter?

  59. Off to bed. See you hosefuckers tomorrow.

  60. I’m not kidding. It takes about seven minutes for Eddie’s daughter to own you.

    (I’m talking about male reaction time; women may be more resistant.)

  61. Michael, do you have just the one daughter?

    Unfortunately for malekind…

  62. Sweet dreams, Sky.

  63. Michael, do you have just the one daughter?

    Yeah. She is in Colorado. Fortunately, we have lots of family there on Cathy’s side.

  64. Also, I have a son in Boston.

    He just got a new job that was a promotion, so that looks good. But his GF is about to graduate, and her rich Daddy wants her to go back to Toronto, so he is all uptight.

    I told him: Tell her how you feel, but don’t directly compete with Daddy.

  65. It’s never a good idea to make a decision that is love related without being married.

    Moving.

    Changing Schools/colleges.

    Adopting….etc..

  66. Unfortunately for malekind…

    Geoff has met my daughter. She’s gorgeous,. Geoff will back me up on this.

    She recently broke up with her long-time BF, and has been down in the dumps about this.

    Good move on her part, really, but we are a little worried about her.

  67. Also, I have a son in Boston.

    Does Cathy know about him?

  68. Mare: You are so right.

    The next time my daughter has a crisis, I am going to give her your phone number. She doesn’t listen to me.

    What is your phone number?

  69. Send her my number

  70. It’s never a good idea to make a decision that is love related without being married.

    Never been married personally, but two words…

    Larry King.

  71. Does Cathy know about him?

    Yeah, Son Michael was 8 lbs. 9 oz. through the birth canal, so I’m pretty sure that Cathy noticed.

  72. Yeah, Son Michael was 8 lbs. 9 oz. through the birth canal, so I’m pretty sure that Cathy noticed.

    So, Cathy was a nurse?

  73. “She recently broke up with her long-time BF, and has been down in the dumps about this.
    Good move on her part, really, but we are a little worried about her.”

    I can be a very cold hearted bitch about this kind of stuff. He was probably not good enough for her. She invested a lot of time in him. She’s really mourning her effort. If she is everything you say she is, she will run into the one she is meant to be with.

    DON’T LET HER SETTLE.

    I know you want to stay out of it but…..was he good enough? I’ll trust your judgment.

  74. Send her my number

    Brad, the last thing I could possibly want in this life is you hitting on my daughter.

    That is like a nightmare for me.

  75. OB/GYN?

  76. Geoff has met my daughter. She’s gorgeous,. Geoff will back me up on this.

    I will back him up on this.

    She recently broke up with her long-time BF, and has been down in the dumps about this.

    That’s a real shame, but she seems pretty lively and resilient.

    Heading to Boston for a week tomorrow. Will let you know if I see Michael’s son.

  77. DON’T LET HER SETTLE.

    Damnit, Mare, pipe down!

  78. Heading to Boston for a week tomorrow. Will let you know if I see Michael’s son.

    RUN, BRUCE JUNIOR!!! RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIFE!!!!

  79. I can be a very cold hearted bitch about this kind of stuff. He was probably not good enough for her. She invested a lot of time in him. She’s really mourning her effort.

    You pretty much nailed it. He’s a really nice kid with a severe case commitmentphobia. His own family is severely fucked up with multiple divorces.

  80. So, Cathy was a nurse?

    Sean, do you know that I own a Kimber 1911 .45 caliber?

  81. Wrong or right, I’ve made the decision and told my two girls that if they bring home a loser, I will tell them whether they like it or not.

    Not MY dream guy, but if this guy is destined to make either of my daughters unhappy, well, they know, I’m going to be honest.

    Hope they bring home a good guy the first time…could be AWKWARD.

  82. Sean, do you know that I own a Kimber 1911 .45 caliber?

    Nope. That’s news to me.

    Do you know where I live?

  83. Heading to Boston for a week tomorrow. Will let you know if I see Michael’s son.

    He’s already the sous chef at the restaurant on top of the Prudential building.

    This place.

  84. He’s already the sous chef at the restaurant on top of the Prudential building.

    Heh. My son and I went to the floor just below that (the Skywalk) to look out over the city – only 6 weeks ago. I usually go to the observatory at the Hancock building, but that’s been closed since 9/11. The view was awesome from the Pru.

  85. Good on your son for making it up there to the top (both literally and figuratively).

    Have you ever read Anthony Bourdain’s Kitchen Confidential?

  86. **sends Michael Sean’s address**

  87. *reminds b-rad that he doesn’t actually know my address*

  88. If you go to that restaurant, ask if Andy is on duty. If so, make sure that your server tells him he is cooking for friends of his father and mother.

    After graduation, Andy was trained by the Ritz-Carlton chain. He will make sure you are treated right.

  89. If so, make sure that they tell him he is cooking for friends of his father and mother.

    Just might. I hate to go to ‘spensive places without the Mrs., but I may be meeting Kent out there (you remember his brief appearance at IB?). Mebbe we’ll head up that way.

  90. **sends Michael Sean’s address**

    Thanks.

    *oils Kimber and deer rifles*

  91. You must be seriously proud of that your son has achieved, Bruce. It’s a a tough business full of tough (and crazy) people.

  92. *oils Kimber and deer rifles*

    *hides in forest*

    *takes off antler hat*

    *on second thought, decides to just hide in bedroom*

  93. You must be seriously proud of that your son has achieved, Bruce. It’s a a tough business full of tough (and crazy) people.

    Thanks. I am proud of him. He’s got the bachelor’s degree from the Culinary Institute of America, but that does not guarantee success.

    You are right — cooking is a tough business. It takes a tough person to deal with the heat.

  94. You are right — cooking is a tough business. It takes a tough person to deal with the heat.

    Seriously, if you haven’t read Kitchen Confidential, you really should. Cooking isn’t necessarily seen as a macho profession by a lot of people, but it’s a tough job.

  95. It’s interesting to listen to Andy talk about his job. He’s into stuff like knife skills, mise en place (which sorta means how you prepare your station on the line to deliver food on time), kitchen hygiene and safety, menu diversity, and so forth.

    I used to cook for a living. He is operating at a level I never imagined.

  96. He is operating at a level I never imagined.

    Tarragon?

  97. Seriously, if you haven’t read Kitchen Confidential, you really should. Cooking isn’t necessarily seen as a macho profession by a lot of people, but it’s a tough job.

    I have read “Kitchen Confidential,” which is a fun book for anyone, but mostly it informs you of the brutal macho culture in restaurant kitchens.

  98. Tarragon?

    Sage.

  99. *obvious point goes flying way over cowl’s bat ears*

  100. Sage.

    He is wise beyond his years.

  101. I can make a mean PB&J.

  102. Hot Pockets? I can microwave the shit out of ’em.

  103. Also, this thread? It looks like I killed the shit out of it.

    (Until Cari n or b-rad’s pet cat shows up, that is.)

  104. Wakey wakey WHORES.

    The funny thing is, you can’t “ma’am” women in the North. They will be insulted. They interpret it as sexist, or a derogatory comment about her age.

    They “ma’am” me up here in Lapeer. Took a bit to get used to.

  105. I woke at 5 am for this shit?

  106. No, you woke up at 5am because you’re

    a.) Not drinking anymore

    b.) Still drinking and passed out early

    c.) There’s no rational explanation for waking up at that time which doesn’t involve drinking.

    d.) Meth.

  107. I’m going with meth. Normal people don’t run unless something’s chasing them.

  108. And here’s where I zzzz zzzz zzzzz zzz

    (seriously, can’t one of you get me one of those Breathe Right Strips?)

    zzzz zzzzz zzzz zzz zzzzzz zzzzz…

  109. C.

    I have to work today, and I like to have some special “me” time in the morning before I go to work and fuck-off on the inter-tubes.

    (actually, I josh, because today is statements day so I’ll be busy)

  110. How ’bout instead of being a late-night blog, we could become an “early morning” blog?

    WHO’S WITH ME?

  111. Well, whatever hosefuckers.

  112. Mornin’. Did any islands tip over while we were asleep?

    You know you hear about this happening once or twice a week.

  113. Andy, I’m worried about Michigan. I mean, it’s surrouned on three sides by water. It should be pretty dang tippy too. I mean, the bridge up north doesn’t really have much holding power. It could prolly teeter on the axis, right? Am I right?

  114. WHO’S WITH ME?

    I’m in. You’ve got me for at least an hour while I watch last night’s Red Eye.

    John Gibson!

  115. If MI flips completely, I’ll have to start using my other hand to give directions.

  116. Michigan will continue to float. When was the last time anyone, much less 25,000 people, moved there?

  117. Quick question for the techies:

    Why the fuck would my wireless router choke my internet speed? It’s Belkin, and I’ve called India on 5 different occassions since I bought it a year ago to go through the arcane reset steps for it.

    When I bypass and connect the cable modem directly to the PC, everything is fine. But then I lose my home network and wifi. WTF! grrrrr.

  118. Hey now, 25k people could leave and totally throw off the balance. Pretty sure we’re losing something like 4 times that a year nowadays. Luckily, so far it’s been an equal number from both sides of the Mackinaxis.

  119. Cuffy, your router is fail. Take it back to the factory and launch it at them a mach 7.

  120. Cuffy, it could be interference on the same Wi-Fi channel. Try making the router use a different one.

    Also, I had some weird issues with mine (LinkSys) recently where the connection would be lost intermittently, even though it looked like it was still connected based on the ststus indicator on the computer. I wound up just replacing the router a month or so ago and haven’t had any problems since.

  121. Hahaha. Good morning, Carin.

  122. it could be interference on the same Wi-Fi channel.

    I’m talking about my desktop’s direct wired connection through the router. I could see how a wireless signal could get messed up, but this is copper, baby. It craaaaawls. Haven’t even tried my wireless stuff.

    Funny thing is, I cussed out Comcast earlier in the week to COME OUT AND FIX THEIR SHIT. Then I experimented with the router bypass this AM and the desktop connects fine. BELLLLLLKIIIINNNNN!!!!

  123. Cuffy, is it plugged in?

  124. Dave, do you work in a Mumbai call center?

  125. Belkin is fine for mouses (mice?), but for a router I’d go D-Link or LinkSys.

  126. Dave, I’ll field this one.

    Cuffy, did you restart your computer?

  127. Here, let me give you more detailed instructions.

    Shut down your computer. Then unplug everything and count to 30. Plug everything back in, restart. VOILA. fixed, right?

    You’re welcome 😉

  128. Yeah, leon, I’m leaning that way. I shelled out over a hundred for this POS, so it’s kinda painful to trash it.

    The silver lining: while bitching at Comcast, they informed me that our broadband market had been recently upgraded to take advantage of some “docsis 3” shit that quadruples an already fast cable connection. So there’s that.

  129. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62U50F20100331

  130. I think cuffy is ignoring me.

  131. Routers Eddie, not reuters.

  132. heh

  133. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8597300.stm

  134. I think cuffy is ignoring me.

    Nah, hon — I’m just having violent flashbacks to both my half-hour long calls to Belkin and Comcast. All were variations of the “unplug everything” magic (which I had already done before picking up the phone). But they *insisted* I follow their fingerpainted call center flowcharts.

  135. Good morning, sons.

    Every time I visit this site, my heart shrinks three sizes. Too often, the thought crosses my mind that if I could be given just one superpower, it would the ability to raise my hand and bitch-slap the stupid out of people.

  136. heh. see, that’s what I was making fun of.

    My humor is subtle retarded. It should grow on you. Like a fungus.

  137. what happened to my strikethrought? damn.

  138. You know, I’m not sure I’m going to be able to sleep safely at night until mare is off of Hawaii.

  139. Time to head out. Good day to those who also suffer under our toddler despot.

  140. Comment by Eddie The Bear on April 1, 2010 8:56 am
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62U50F20100331

    A nice palate cleanser after last night’s spaniard sausagefest.

  141. I wouldn’t worry about Hawaii tipping over, volcanoes are very floaty.

  142. Oh shit, not sure why I assumed the issue was with wifi.

    Try swapping out the cables. A bad wire/connection in the jack will cause your problem.

    You might also try different ports on the router. It’s possible for one to have issues when others work.

    And reboot. Don’t forget to reboot. 50 or 60 times even.

    If that doesn’t work, your router may have teh AIDS.

  143. Cuffy, inre your computer problems.

    1) Find your computer’s dick.
    2) Punch it in the dick.
    3) Repeatedly.
    4) If that doesn’t work…….I got nuthin.

  144. volcanoes are very floaty.

    And very stable, what with the wide base and narrow tops. Just look at Krakatoa….Oh, wait.

  145. Volcanos set off my gaydar.

  146. Cuffy, you should disconnect all the wires and iron out any bendy places.

  147. Cuffy, try power washing the router then feed it some peanut butter. That should make it feel better.

  148. Volcanos set off my gaydar.

    I’m glad something does. You should get that looked at.

  149. Electricity hates acute angles.

  150. is it lunchtime yet?

  151. Routers have feelings, you know. They aren’t mindless workhorses. Calling it a POS isn’t going to make it work any harder.

    You should hold the router in your arms and tell it how lovely it is, make it a romantic candlelit dinner, and then hump it like a twisted satyr all night long.

  152. In the morning I just scroll down in the top poat until I see Car in or Sox. Then I know it’s the new day.

    Mornin’

  153. Mornin’

  154. We kilt it dead, laura.

    What should we do now?

  155. Maybe the router is thirsty. Try pouring a glass of water on it.

  156. Let’s dance!

  157. Put on your red shoes and dance the blues…..

  158. Now that we have Obamacre, our Easter dinner is in the header.

  159. So what?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKcY75LIkRw

  160. TalkingPointsMemo = teh Stupid!

    http://tinyurl.com/yh3dge7

  161. Nice picture, hotspur. Next time, change the tagline to match.

  162. TalkingPointsMemo = teh Stupid!

    http://tinyurl.com/yh3dge7

    Hahahaha. Hoist by their own petard. Fuckers.

  163. What’s the tagline?

  164. “What’s the tagline, Kenneth?” is the correct form for that question, I believe…

  165. Just popping in to say that as a flaming liberal, even I am embarrassed by Hank Johnson.

    Thank you and have a nice day.

  166. What’s the tagline?

    Top left of the page. Now reads “Taste the rainbow.”

  167. I know this is going to make me sound ignorant, but what the fuck difference does the tagline make?

  168. Today’s blog title reminds me … if you can find a clip of Dennis Miller’s rant from O’Reilly’s show last night about Fred Phelps and his band of idiots that protest soldiers’ funerals, it’s one for the ages.

  169. Fuck that shit. Routers need to know who’s the boss around here.

    Don’t bother writing it up or any of that pussy HR shit either. Shut the door, bend that non-routing bitch over the conference room table and give it the Viking business.

  170. I know this is going to make me sound ignorant, but what the fuck difference does the tagline make?

    Syncing it with the picture is the standard around here. Despite all appearances, there are some standards.

  171. There. Tagline coordinated with header.

    Man, I’m a sooper snooper dooper technogenius.

  172. You all go read now. Spread far and wide. Excellent blog post from former marine and MA State Senator David A. Hall.

    http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2009/02/robert.html

    YOU GO READ NOW!!!!

  173. Maybe someday I’ll even do a poat. Or maybe not.

  174. Maybe someday I’ll even do a poat. Or maybe not.

    pace yourself…..

  175. Great link wiserhimer.

    Loved this:

    “What’s next? Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”?”

    Great snarc.

  176. “You know, I’m not sure I’m going to be able to sleep safely at night until mare is off of Hawaii.”

    HA! Thanks Carin, it feels a little tippy.

  177. It’s old.

  178. Just popping in to say that as a flaming liberal, even I am embarrassed by Hank Johnson.

    Thank you and have a nice day.

    That amused me.

  179. PD, people sometimes go missing and their body parts are found later when they say, “It’s old.”

  180. I don’t guess I realised that flaming liberals were capable of embarasment. Learn something new every day. Wait……he’s probably lying.

  181. Great!

    “In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the religious freedom and women’s rights of Saudi Arabia, the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Gay people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela. Won’t multiculturalism be beautiful?”

  182. As often as I can, I find a reason to say, Burkas make me sick. Screw you, Islam, Sharia and anything else that requires 12th century thinking.

  183. Thanks for the tip, Mare. Now STFU!!!11!!

  184. Hey, all you sausage-smokers.

  185. PD, people sometimes go missing and their body parts are found later when they say, “It’s old.”

    HAHAHAHA!

  186. It’s old.

    No, he’s right. Hell, it’s so old, there’s a comment there by Dave in Texas.

    Now why would he not have enlightened us to that way back in the beginning of March when he saw it, Hmmmmm?

  187. So what if it’s old? I knew it was old but the message was good.

    PD, may find his chicken eggs cracked tomorrow morning.

  188. Hey, all you sausage-smokers.

    Yo, whattup, h8er?

  189. What? What’d I do now?

  190. PD, may find his chicken eggs cracked tomorrow morning.

    He has chickens too? That’s so cool!

    PD, you really shouldn’t be so coy about such things. I would have loved to discuss your “eggs” with you.

    I’d like to hold them in my hand and roll them around a bit. I’d like to see if there as firm as my eggs.

  191. There is not the same as they’re.

    There.

  192. As often as I can, I find a reason to say, Burkas make me sick.

    Don’t underestimate the pulchritude that you could bring to burqa fashion, mare. I’m sure you’d look fabulous in one. Were I a burqameister, I’d give you a down burqa just to downplay your womanhood and give you all the appeal of a be-sheeted ghost.

    Actually, I’m glad American women don’t wear burqas. If I started to associate shapeless sacks with the glories that are womanhood, I could see a rather Pavlovian response developing wherein any shapeless, amorphous fabric would become a sexual cue, and the next thing you know, potatoes in burlap sacks, cars covered with dust-covers, furniture covered in paint tarps, and – who knows – draperies wouldn’t be safe.

  193. MOM!!!! PJM IS SPEAKING IN CODE AGAIN!!!

    FTR: I do not currently own chickens. I do however live in a town where it is the custom for some of the recent immigrants to keep chickens in their back yards. The city council passed an ordinance against it several years ago, but it is routinely ignored and unenforced.

  194. PJM. Have you ever awoken to the sound of a cock crowing? I’m just asking.

  195. Who. the. fuck. is. PD?

  196. Pen Dejo

  197. What? What’d I do now?

    Oh, you know…..

  198. Todays quote is from H L Mencken
    If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.

  199. Hey, all you sausage-smokers.

    Mmmmmm … smoked sausage.

  200. Yo, whattup, h8er?

    Nothin’, brother. How about you? I had insomnia last night and was up until almost four. I feel like shit on a shoe today.

  201. >> Oh, you know…..

    *goes to look*

    That was not me. That is an impostor Dave in Texas.

  202. Pendejo? Really? Is it too hard to use his ACTUAL initials and type a “G”? God, a guy takes a break for a few weeks and all sense of rational thought leaves this place. Good thing I’m back to restore a little order.

    Now, someone get me a root beer.

  203. I bit the bullet and got a new router. Though I never ever ever get the extended warranty crap from Best Buy, this time I did.

    Now I shall destroy the Belkin. Suggestions?

    On my list already was the glass of water mentioned above, plus a large rock and/or sledge hammer. I’d like to introduce FIRE to the mix, but I don’t really have a good place to torch the fucker.

  204. Man, I feel you JANN. I sleep pretty well for the first 3-4 hours of the night, but then I wake up about 2:30 to take a piss, and can’t go back to sleep. I lay there tired but wide assed awake and it’s torture. Sometimes aspirin helps and sometimes it doesn’t.

  205. Now I shall destroy the Belkin. Suggestions?

    I’d go Office Space on it with a baseball bat.

  206. That is an impostor Dave in Texas.

    Just like that imposter “Cuffy Meigs” that we ran into. Seems an awful lot of Hostages have internet doppelgangers running around.

  207. There is not the same as they’re.

    There.

    Wow, you’re really done told me.

  208. Sometimes aspirin helps and sometimes it doesn’t.

    Yeah, it’s enough to make a reformed alky pine for the days of blackouts.

  209. That was not me. That is an impostor Dave in Texas.

    {{{{{{{GASP!!!!!}}}}}}}}

    Something must be done about this!!!!

  210. *waits for a root beer*

  211. Maybe this order of battle will work:

    1. Fire
    2. Smash it
    3. Extinguish flaming bits with water and/or my urine.

  212. Now I shall destroy the Belkin. Suggestions?

    Whatever you do, be sure to get video.

    Microwave?

  213. Routers are great for sighting in that new AK clone. One would think.

  214. I hate Belkin.

  215. Sometimes aspirin helps and sometimes it doesn’t.

    Nyquil.

  216. >> Now I shall destroy the Belkin. Suggestions?

    Will it blend?

  217. Maybe this order of battle will work:

    1. Fire
    2. Smash it
    3. Extinguish flaming bits with water and/or
    4. Drink my urine.

    FTFY, Cuffs.

  218. I don’t know why I thought that was funny. It’s pretty gross and puerile.

  219. Because you’re a guy?

    I’m just spitballin here.

  220. Funny you should mention insomnia. I’m actually at this very moment looking at this for my own sleeping difficulties.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7R6ZS/ref=pd_luc_mri?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    The doctor told me to buy some melatonin, but I don’t think it’s working very well.

  221. Public Service Announcement:

    Nyquil is a death sentence for people with high blood pressure. Like me. I took some about 4 years ago. About 2:00pm the next day I felt my face kinda humming. I went and looked in the mirror and my face was flushed like crazy. Went to see my doc and she hooked up the BP sleeve and turned it on and it kept pumping and pumping and pumping until I thought it was gonna amputate my arm. 218/185 baby. She sent me straight to the pharmacy to get some kinda shit they give to stroke victims in the ER. It took about 10 days to get my bp back to “normal”. Whatever chemical it is in OTC cough meds that dries up your drainage, does so by constricting the mucous producing system. So obviously it constricts all your other plumbing as well. Including your circulatory system.

    But you’re right, Nyquil does make a person sleep good.

  222. But you’re right, Nyquil does make a person sleep good permanently.

  223. researching ways to kill yourself b-rad?

  224. I liked this story. I like family values.

    http://tinyurl.com/ygcm488

  225. researching ways to kill yourself b-rad?

    Yup.

    Gonna test ’em out on you.

  226. Anyone else reading the excellent Petraeus profile at Vanity Fair?

  227. I liked it too Jazz. I think the commenters are fucking idiots because they can’t grasp the difference between grinding on a woman half naked and kissing her and pretend shooting someone.

  228. I think the commenters are fucking idiots because they can’t grasp the difference between grinding on a woman half naked and kissing her and pretend shooting someone..

    It’s a complicated topic for hedonists and those with defective moral compasses.

  229. There are actually two Petraeus stories there. One’s a fluffy bio that I haven’t gotten to yet and the other is this one:

    http://is.gd/b9VIh

    So far it’s great.

  230. I used to wonder how Hollywood actors managed to do a love scene, and have to do it 4 or 5 takes in order to get it right, and not be sporting some serious wood when it was all over with. A set of blueballs is a high price to pay for making a living. Finallly I realised that most of them don’t like chicks anyway.

  231. Anyone else reading the excellent Petraeus profile at Vanity Fair?

    I’m not literate.

  232. thanks for linking cuffy. My hand is still too sore from one of BiW’s posts the other day

  233. Thanks for linking that, Cuffy.

    Cuz I sure as hell woudn’t have found anything in Vanity Fair any other way.

  234. not be sporting some serious wood when it was all over with

    It’s impossible I’d think. And yes, I think about it too.

    makes me hawt

  235. It’s by Mark Bowden (Black Hawk Down, Killing Pablo, etc.). Great non-fiction writer.

  236. I’m definitely reading it now. Both those books are superb.

  237. Bowden is something of a lib, but he’s a good writer, and he’s pretty damn fair.

  238. Neal McDonough needs to have his own HHD. Bunk!

  239. Hey PJM, did Will email you about meeting? Is it Fri or Sat that we’re planning to meet?

  240. It appears this VF thing is an excerpt from his new book on the general.

  241. Will did not email me, but I think he asked me to email him when I’m heading out there. It’d have to be Friday if that’s ok with you.

    The Beer Olympics that we’re attending is on Saturday night.

    and yeppers, Neal McDonough is teh hawt.

  242. But you’re right, Nyquil does make a person sleep good.

    And isn’t that the most important thing?

  243. Tell us more about this Beer Olympics. If there’s a pissing every 10 minutes event, I declare myself to be the early favorite.

  244. I don’t really know what’s going on. It’s our friend’s 40th birthday and they’re having a “beer olympics” unfortunately I can’t participate because of my diet.

    Oh and Cyn, not sure if I told you, my mom offered to watch the kids for us that weekend so we’ll be footloose and kid free!

  245. And isn’t that the most important thing?

    Waking up rates right up there for me. I realize that opinions may differ.

  246. Brad?

  247. Nice to see this:
    http://tinyurl.com/y9d5l4z

    Those fucking pussies at Power Line (whom I generally like, with the exception of Paul Mirengoff, who’s a Downer Dave) and Volokh (whom I generally dislike, because every fucking one of them has more ego than sense, it seems) all seem inclined to lay down for this PoS. Add the developing slack Republican stance, and I think we may have to rely on the courts to fix this, which is okay, but a last resort. I’d prefer to get this resolved appropriately BEFORE it goes to the last resort.

  248. […] H/T to Cuffy Meigs, again at H2. […]

  249. Waking up rates right up there for me. I realize that opinions may differ.

    meh.

  250. Lunch time. BBIAB

  251. Mesa, for an elder god of the internet, you’re a little slow today.

    Not only did Eddie post a link to it earlier, I’ve already poated it at my place.

  252. PJM – i’m sure your kids will have fun with grandma! Friday night actually works great for me, otherwise I’d have to miss our couple’s bunko on Sat. Last weekend I actually won $40!

    You’ll be in the Peoria area, was that right?

  253. Cyn and PJM YOU MUST TAKE PICTURES!

  254. Add the developing slack Republican stance,

    I’m wondering if this is a bad strategy over all. You can’t keep people at 11 forever (unless your a liberal, and 11!! is a normal everyday state of mind.) Normal, rational intelligent people simply cannot maintain that level of outrage constantly. So there’s nothing that can be done while the lawsuits and everything else plays out, until we really start ramping up for the Nov. 2010 elections. And that doesn’t happen until after August.

    I think that taking a step back, reassessing the landscape, give people a chance to regroup, then come out with both barrels blazing in September might be the way to go here.

    People are pissed. They won’t get unpissed as this POS bill starts having an impact on them. Does it really make a lot of sense to burn everyone out now?

  255. Pics for sure, Sohos!

  256. Finished both Bowden articles & Petraeus gets very fair treatment.

    Actually, I’d say it borders on hagiographic, but I don’t think that really applies when you’re reporting straight facts like Bowden did. Petraeus is just a stellar individual, no way around it.

  257. 18-24 inches of snow fell last night.

    Took the morning off.

    Knee deep powder.

  258. 93 and breezy here. A bit breezier than I like.

  259. That Patraeus article was good.

    Cuffy’s right, the guy is in a class of his own.

  260. Just got an email from my wife. Seems our favorite grocery sacker down at the grocery store is in trouble for getting caught red-handed nailing his girlfriend. He’s 18, she’s 15 and her parents are filing on him. My daughter’s known him since they had the same kindergartedn class together 13 years ago. He seems like a pretty good kid, but this may cause a hitch in his gitalong.

  261. PJM/Cyn – Are you still talking about April 16 as your meeting date? Because I definitely will be in Phoenix that week – the wedding is Saturday at 4. If you are meeting on Friday the 16th, I’d be willing to stalk meet you.

  262. 18-24 inches of snow fell last night.

    You are welcome to it – sunny and 60s here after two weeks of damp, dark weather.
    And more freaking rain than I care for.

  263. PG, you need to feel sorry for the girl. The guy is a pig.

  264. I’ve got daughters also, so I don’t need any reminders of how important it is to protect them from horndogs. He does seem like a pretty good kid though. He’s humble and helpful at the grocery store. But good kids let their dicks do their thinnking for them all the time. It’s an epidemic I tell ya.

  265. http://thecanyons.com/camfull.html?id=1063

    This shot doesn’t do it justice. If you headed out to the steeper and higher elevation terrain you get face shots on almost every turn.

    Fun but exhausting.

    Someone has to do it.

    Now I am ready for mountain biking and golf season.

  266. Sorry, PG. That was a bit harsh of me.

  267. Pendejo,
    Sounds like he has low self esteem if he is hooking up with a 15 year old. He should be hooking up with girls his own age.

    Not sure it’s such a big deal but IMO boys who hooked up with girls who were substantially younger, in both age and development, always had self esteem issues. Like the girls their own age either intimidated them or wouldn’t give them the time of day.

  268. I bet there’s some damned good trout fishing in your neighborhood in the late spring and early summer.

  269. No blood, No foul, hotspur.

  270. I was surprised at how long that article was, but it was very good.
    It is also good to know that Obama is letting him do things his way instead of trying to mess with him.

  271. If you can say one good thing about Obama, and I’m not about to, but if you could, it would be that he’s so committed to trying to ram his vision of social justice down are throat in the domestic theater that he has to basically let the foriegn policy end of it, including the military, run itself. This country is to big and complex for one man to fuck up all of it at the same time, I guess.

  272. I don’t see that big of an age difference between an 18 year old boy and a 15 year old girl. Girls mature faster than boys. I always dated older guys. That 18 year old could still be in high scoop for pete’s sake. Or he met her his senior year and her freshman or sophomore. This isn’t like it’s a 21 year old hooking up with a 15 year old.

    Agile it would be fun to meet with you!

  273. PG, Uni, Hotspur – I think you have all turned into a bunch of old fucking men with daugthers, and forgot what it was like to be male and 18.

    When I was a senior in high school, I was dating a sophmore. On average, that is 2 years apart, but depending on birthdays, can be over 3. My girlfriend was 2 years younger than me, but that was only because my birthday was in October, and I didn’t turn 18 until I was a freshman in college. It is quite possible that the a 15 yo girl and a 18 yo boy are at roughly the same maturity level.

    And if you’ve forgotten that, it shows just how fucking old you’ve become.

    Sorry – don’t mean to sound so flippant, but you are soundling like a bunch of prudes.

  274. He’s 18 people!! He could have just turned 18 and she’s on her way to 16 any day now.

    This is not a substantial difference and for him to be considered a sex offender now is horrific!

  275. “I always dated older guys.”

    They all had low self esteem.

  276. The sad thing about that Petraeus article? While I was first reading it on my iPhone waiting on an oil change, two local Army soldiers were in the garage waiting room with me. They had brought in a van from Redstone for service.

    One was (apparently) on her way home afterwards. She was wearing sneakers with her fatigues. They bitched about military life and how the only good thing was the free healthcare. I’ll let you guess their shared demographic. Or you can just ask Jazz.

    This was happening as I read about Petraeus excelling at every fucking thing he’s touched. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing/hearing.

  277. agile,
    You had low self esteem.

  278. As the father of a 15 year old girl who is currently dating an 18 year old boy, all I can say is ….

    {{{{{{{{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    He just turned 18 2 weeks ago and she turns 16 in about two months, so it’s not as bad as it sounds, but still……

  279. I’m with Agile and PJM on this. Not the namecalling parts – we all know Uni, and Hotspur are hosefuckers – just on the age thing. 3 years is no big deal, especially without more info.

  280. AD, when you come home and find your fifteen year old daughter in the sack with an eighteen year old guy, get back to me.

  281. Hardly

  282. I’ll let you guess their shared demographic. Or you can just ask Jazz.

    BWhahahahahahahah! *gasp* bwahahahahahahaha!

    Seriously, I laughing myself silly here! Thanks for the chuckle side-splitter, Tuck. 🙂

  283. 3 years does not a pedophile make

  284. I’ll admit that having daughters will damned sure change your perspective about teen aged boys. I’ve gone from being one to wanting to shoot some of them in the face with an RPG. But then again, I was one of those teen age boys who only pawed at a girls hooters in a most respectful manner.

  285. AD, when you come home and find your fifteen year old daughter in the sack with an eighteen year old guy, get back to me.

    I think dad’s going to be pissed no matter what the guy’s age is.

  286. 3 years does not a pedophile make

    That’s not what the law says in my state.

  287. get back to me

    And when you come home and find your 18 yo son in jail because he had sex with his 15 yo girlfriend (when last week, before his 18th birthday, it was fine), do you:

    1) Help him.

    2) Tell him you hope he has a good lawyer.

    3) Rail about the pedophile you raised?

  288. I think dad’s going to be pissed no matter what the guy’s age is.

    There ya go.

  289. (when last week, before his 18th birthday, it was fine)

    Somehow I missed that in PG’s description. Old eyes, I guess.

  290. I think dad’s going to be pissed no matter what the guy’s age is.

    I think we can all agree about that!

  291. When my girls is 15, I will be highly pissed if some 18 year old comes sniffing around.

    3 years is huge in that age range, huge developmental differences.

  292. I just got a 2nd census thing in the mail. They must not have liked me putting american on the last one.

  293. Just because that’s the law doesn’t make it right. I’m speaking from a psychological standpoint

  294. Somehow I missed that in PG’s description. Old eyes, I guess.

    No, it’s not there. But that is exactly the point – we don’t know all the details. And so you are doing your own version of “The police acted stupidly.”

  295. I love it when you and I agree at the outset, wiser. Even when we do fer realz, our discussions hardly ever start out in complete agreement. You obviously have occasional moments of lucidity – no matter what anyone else says.

  296. I’ve got a pretty good friend, and coworker, who I’ve heard in person tell his then 15 y/o son to get as much pussy as he can, but be smart and wear a raincoat, cause there’ll come a time when he has to settle down. I looked right straight at the kid and said, “If you come around my house looking for pussy, you better have more than a raincoat, cause raincoats are useless against 12 guage shotguns.” The boy and the daddy both smiled at me like a couple of jackasses eating stickers and I never blinked. That kid is 19 now and has a bastard child with a 15 y/o. As far as I know he never spoke a word to my daughter. And she’s about a year away form gratuating from a fairly decent university.

  297. You obviously have occasional moments of lucidity – no matter what anyone else says.

    I’m so glad that I have a person who is filled with such vile hatred on my side…..

  298. You’re right uni there is a difference. 18 year old boys have the maturity of a 15 year old girl

  299. Off to do some yoga.

  300. This reminds me of the time when I was 18 and that condom fell out of my wallet in front of my 16-year-old girlfriend’s mother.

    Awwwwwwkward……

  301. Not to mention the status an 18 year old can use to woo a 15 year old. Any 15 year old girl will see dating an 18 year old as either a chance to graduate into adulthood, instant popularity, it makes her interesting, or its the fact that he may have money. It’s an unfair advantage.

  302. No, AD, I am going by the FACTS. And the fact is that it is statutory rape and it’s a crime. It’s a crime for a reason. The difference in maturity makes the guy a predator.

  303. faaack. It’s 3:25 and statements are just printing NOW. I’ll be here all night.

  304. No one here, at least I hope thinks it’s ok for a 15 year old girl to be sleeping around. Her parents were fools to not realize what would happen, but to punish the boy for the rest of life for this is wrong

  305. Uni – 3 years CAN be a big difference, and it MIGHT not be. And is it really 3 years age difference, or 2 years and 2 months? We don’t know, and so to say 18 – 15 = 3 Hang em! is jumping to a conclusion based on facts not in evidence. Now, if you have a 15 yo daughter, and an 18 yo boy starts sniffing around her, load the shotgun. But what if you have a 14 yo girl, and she dates a 16yo boy, and then he turns 17, and then she turns 15 and then he turns 18, and they get caught having sex and you don’t know when they started and, and, and…He’s a pedo. Plain and simple, the law says. Was he suppose to break up with her the day before he turns 18 to comply with the law?

  306. No one here, at least I hope thinks it’s ok for a 15 year old girl to be sleeping around.

    Depends. Are they related?

  307. What would Mohammed do?

  308. PJM,
    We will probably disagree on this subject. My boy, at 15, was far more mature than most 15 year old girls. The girls may have been physically more developed but not emotionally.

    15 year old girls are still just kids, an 18 year old boy is a man, literally.

    We probably won’t agree on this. I felt this way even when I was a teenager, I always saw guys who were that much older, who dated girls that much younger, as strange, almost predatory.

    I am probably wrong a lot of the time, but it’s a gut instinct that has worked well for me.

    I hope I don’t offend anyone, it’s just the way I have always viewed this subject.

  309. Nobody is saying “Hang em!” At least I’m not anyway, but having him prosecuted is is the right of the parents of the girl. So, saying that they are doing the wrong thing is like saying “The police acted stupidly.”

  310. No, AD, I am going by the FACTS.

    No, Mr. SmartPants, you’re going by the LAW, and not the FACTS.

    See my example above.

  311. Off to do some yoga.

    Oh, so Pendejo really is a woman?

  312. No, Mr. SmartPants, you’re going by the LAW, and not the FACTS.

    And you’re going by the assumption that the parents haven’t taken that into consideration, and that the prosecutor will not take those things into consideration if they are indeed part of the facts.

    That’s a lot of assuming there, AD.

  313. Hey PG! You started this damn argument – don’t you dare run off “to do yoga” now, you pussy! Stay and join the fight!

  314. “But what if you have a 14 yo girl, and she dates a 16yo boy, and then he turns 17, and then she turns 15 and then he turns 18, ”

    Any 16 year old boy who is sniffing around a 14 year old girl needs his head checked. 14 is so fucking young compared to 16. I don’t care how physically developed the girl is, she is still just a child.

    I am not saying he should be branded a pedo, but the parents, maybe both parents, should sit down with the boy and let him know how creepy his behavior is, find out why he is drawn to a child, both physically and emotionally.

  315. I think saying the parents are doing the wrong thing is a personal opinion. So there’s really no point in discussing it because there’s no way you guys will change my opinion on this and it’s obvious I won’t change yours………but it’s sure fun to disagree with you guys!

  316. I’m so glad that I have a person who is filled with such vile hatred on my side…..

    You forgot the racist part. That’s where I get my best hatred.

  317. IIRC, in Washington when I was growing up, there was a “rolling” exception to statutory rape. That is, the age of consent was 16, but provided the parties were not 3 or more years apart in age, there was no crime.

    That is, if an 18 y/o taps a 15, it wasn’t a crime. But 19 y/o was.

  318. You have a daughter, PJM?

  319. If my son, at 18, was caught fucking a 15 year old I would be so pissed at him.

  320. Any 16 year old boy who is sniffing around a 14 year old girl needs his head checked.

    Unless they are related.

    amiright?

  321. Nobody is saying “Hang em!”

    and

    but having him prosecuted

    Same damn thing in today’s society. Try being involved in society with a sex offender crime on your record. In this case, we’d be better killing the kid now. Otherwise he’ll go through all of his adult life (maybe 50 years or more) paying for a crime (yes, technically it is a crime) that he basically committed on his 18th birthday. 50 years of grief for 1 pleasure session. That’s appropriate, right?

  322. You forgot the racist part. That’s where I get my best hatred.

    I believe that was implied….

    h8er

  323. Wow uni, I reaaaaaaaaaally don’t agree with you on that part.

    There’s a crapload of reading out there about how boys and girls mature differently, especially in their teenaged years.

    Boys my same age were WAY too immature for me when I was in my teens.

  324. Boys my same age were WAY too immature for me when I was in my teens.

    So, we basing all of this on PJM’s sexual drive and behavior?

    uh oh….

  325. You have a daughter, PJM?

    yes I do.

  326. Yummmmm:
    https://www.bourgeoissmokehouse.com/Home_Page.php

  327. amiright?

    Cousins, maybe, but sisters are off limits.

  328. Cousins, maybe, but sisters are off limits.

    Damn Yankee.

  329. Agile,
    You make a good point.

    PJM,
    You make a good point as well.

  330. Unless they are related.

    amiright?

    In Dixie, yeah. Not so much elsewhere.

  331. AD, don’t be a tool. I already said that the prosecutor will take the facts into consideration.

    Why do you have to take the most extreme things like “committed on his 18th birthday” and lay them on me like I’m some kind of dick? You have no idea of the facts. The prosecutor will.

  332. “Unless they are related.

    amiright?”

    That’s different.

    Ain’t nothing wrong there, it’s a safe and traditional method for entering into adulthood.

    *sniffs

    *takes a sip of iced tea

  333. I think most girls are attracted to older boys, but there is a power difference there. Older guys simply have way to much of it. I don’t know what I think the cut off should be (while in high school) but I’m sure I’ll have an opinion when my daughers are 15.

  334. Ain’t nothing wrong there, it’s a safe and traditional method for entering into adulthood.

    ???

    Entering into adulthood?

    Hell, if she’s still a virgin at 14, then her daddy just ain’t doing his job right!

  335. I mean, the maturity issue aside. yea an 18 y/o boy may have the maturity of a 16 y/o girl. But he still has that “older” thing going.

  336. I dated guys my own age until I graduated from high school. Older guys wanted to date me, but I didn’t go for that.

  337. I already said that the prosecutor will take the facts into consideration.

    I’ve seen cases where the prosecutor didn’t take the facts into consideration.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Dixon

  338. Older guys wanted to date me, but I didn’t go for that.

    Hows ’bout now, baby?

    *licks eyebrows and winks at Car In…..

  339. Car in,
    Exactly!

    It’s about power. An older boy with low self esteem can’t wield that power on a girl his own age because she is immune, for the most part. A younger girl is susceptible. Maturity be damned, younger girls are still younger girls, almost children. They are highly susceptible to an older boy wielding his power.

    I agree with YOU car in.

    Girls around his age or older = harder to manipulate and more threatening to the ego
    Younger girls = easier and more impressionable, easier to manipulate

  340. Also, I seemed to find plenty of guys who were “mature” enough for me. Honestly, maturity seemed more dependant on the individual. I’m not buying into the generalization.

  341. but I didn’t go for that

    you forgot to say, “oh no” after that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccenFp_3kq8

  342. I was surprised at how long that article was, but it was very good.

    Oh sure. When a NOVELIST writes something long, its very good. When I do it, you all order another round and wail about the misfortunate day I fell in with you sorry lot. I see how you are. Bitches.

  343. Fucking teenagers, I hate em all.

    Except for my own.

  344. If she ain’t good enough for her kin, she ain’t good enough for our kin.

  345. If you’re relying on the prosecutor to exercise some sort of reasonable discretion, Hotspur, I think you’re misguided. I have never, ever, EVER met a prosecutor who exercised any sort of meaningful compassion for – or mercy on – the defendants they prosecuted. Never. Ever. Prosecutors always prosecute at the farthest edges of what the law allows. Yeah, they make take pleas, but if the facts present a case for 1st Degree Criminal Sexual Conduct, that’s what the prosecutors will charge. Relying on well-intentioned and conscientious civil servants to arrive at a reasonable solution to any problem is pure, unadulterated folly in my book.

  346. ‘Sup, haters?

    Some sad news. #1 son’s Mother-in-law died early this morning. For those so inclined, prayers for Margaret and my lovely daughter-in-law, Breana.

  347. Good thing the charachter and fitness board on the Michigan State Bar was more understanding, huh, jazz? 😉

  348. I’m sorry to hear that, MCPO :(((

  349. When a NOVELIST writes something long, its very good. When I do it, you all order another round and wail about the misfortunate day I fell in with you sorry lot.

    That’s because you make James Joyce look like a positively cogent, light read.

  350. PJM, if we’re supposed to operate on the premise that prosecutors are not infallible (which they aren’t) then why prosecute any crimes? You could use the example of the Duke lacrosse players to argue that prosecutors are crooked.

    I’m actually kind of surprised that as a staunch conservative, you have such disdain for the rule of law.

  351. I highly recommend this book:
    Once Upon The River Love
    http://www.amazon.com/Once-upon-River-Andrei-Makine/dp/0140283625

    It’s a heartwarming coming of age story about three Russian teenagers growing up in Siberia.

    One hilarious scene is when the main character looses his virginity to the town prostitute. Zero emotion, just an act to move on to the next step, which is love.

    It’s how it should be done. If a boy hasn’t fucked by the age of 18 he needs to go to the town whore to get it over with. Take away the mystery and give him access, and he will stay away from young girls/children.

    Yet another reason to legalize prostitution.

  352. Uni – More libertarian than conservative.

  353. You have no idea of the facts.

    And you have them? Please share them with the class, sir.

    The prosecutor will.

    Ha. Haha. hahahahahahahah. Is this like the prosecutor, who it was announced yesterday here in Boston, that after 5 FUCKING months, decided that a private citizen who killed a pyscho as he attacked his shrink, won’t face any chagres? This guy saves the doctor from certain death at the hands of a deranged lunatic, and it takes this prosecutor 5 months to decide that he shouldn’t face any charges. BTW, he was a private security guard that worked somewhere else, and was lawfully carrying his gun, but he used that mean scary gun to kill somebody.

    Or maybe the prosecutor who charged those Duke lacrosse players? That kind of prosecutor?

    This is NOT a case for the courts – this is a matter for two families.

  354. Good thing the charachter and fitness board on the Michigan State Bar was more understanding, huh, jazz?

    Hahahahaha! I actually was called in for a couple of “sessions” with a Character & Fitness panel before the bar would confer a license upon me. I rode a Harley for a while and, in line with adopting the stereotypical biker lifestyle, consistently made some rather poor choices at one point in my life.

  355. God, Chief, that’s awful. So sorry.

  356. I think cousins taste great. Much better than brothers and waaay more filling.

  357. I’m actually kind of surprised that as a staunch conservative, you have such disdain for the rule of law

    Obama care will be the rule of law and I will have absolute disdain for it as well.

  358. I think cases such as these should be taken out of the hands of “law” and back into the hands of angry fathers and brothers.

  359. MCPO,
    Just on some issues, not on all.

    Sorry about the loss MCPO.

  360. I think cousins taste great. Much better than brothers and waaay more filling.

    This is right up the street from where I grew up, PJ.

  361. Sorry MCPO.

  362. This is right up the street from where I grew up, PJ.

    Yeah

    *cough

    that’s what I meant.

    *cough cough

  363. I’m actually kind of surprised that as a staunch conservative, you have such disdain for the rule of law.

    Hotspur,

    As an officer of the court, I have to tell you that there is a difference believing in the rule of law and how it is typically enforced. And no, that isn’t a good thing.

  364. you have such disdain for the rule of law

    Obamacare is law. I have disdain for BAD law.

  365. Obama care will be the rule of law and I will have absolute disdain for it as well.

    Well, I hope you won’t have disdain for the states’ attorneys general who want to take it all of the way to the SCOTUS.

  366. Obamacare is law. I have disdain for BAD law.

    copy cat

    did you get my response about meeting up with you?

  367. There’s a big difference between disdain for rule of law and disdain for the rulekeepers. I respect the law. I hold cops and, most especially, prosecuting attorneys in exceptionally low regard, and that’s based on my own personal experience on both sides of the law. I respect the power those people wield, but I have very little respect for the people that wield that power.

  368. Well, I hope you won’t have disdain for the states’ attorneys general who want to take it all of the way to the SCOTUS.

    what on earth does that have to do with my so called disdain for the “rule of law”?

    Here in San Diego I have seen far too many cases where the prosecutor and the police were dirty. In fact, yes, I do have disdain for a huge portion of government. Guess that’s the libertarian in me.

  369. I’m actually kind of surprised that as a staunch conservative, you have such disdain for the rule of law.

    As a staunch conservative, I’m always, always leery of the power of the state.

  370. Well, I hope you won’t have disdain for the states’ attorneys general

    Strawman alert! We said nothing about the people trying to change any given law. We were talking about the law.

  371. so sorry MCPO prayers headed that way

  372. I AM THE LAW!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo

  373. There is a guy who lives one town over from me that made the news a few years ago. He was trying to get off of the sex offender registry. The poor guy got caught doing the exact same thing about 15 years earlier. Even though he married the girl and is raising a family with her he is still branded as a sex offender.

  374. what on earth does that have to do with my so called disdain for the “rule of law”?

    Because the rule of law says that the states have the right to challenge this law on constitutional grounds. So I hope you won’t have disdain for that because it’s the only hope we have of getting it overturned.

    I was just wondering where you might draw the line as to when the law should be followed.

  375. Strawman alert!

    Fair enough, point conceded on that one.

    I still wonder where one draws the line.

  376. Sohita – How are you doing today, darling?

  377. eh ok I guess I am glad I get my stitches and staples out tomorrow and I can get out of this bed

  378. There are still sodomy laws and blue laws I don’t think those are ok either

  379. You can’t handle the law!

  380. Check this shit out!

    http://tinyurl.com/yj8hp4t

  381. Sohita- I am s-o-o rooting for you!!!

  382. PJM,
    Did I mention we had 1.5-2 feet of snow fall last night?

    Did I also mention that I took this morning off to sample the sweet sweet powder.

  383. every afternoon I hit this wall at like 2:45-3:15 and I just have to sleep. I dont know how I am going to work through it at the new job starting Monday

  384. There are still sodomy laws and blue laws I don’t think those are ok either

    Where were you when I was younger? 🙂

  385. Scott illustrates my point. They should raise the age to 21

  386. Take an energy drink or have a cup of tea BEFORE you get tired for the first few days.

  387. There are still sodomy laws and blue laws I don’t think those are ok either

    Victimless crimes don’t count.

  388. As the father of 0 children, I think that the girl’s family has the right to do what they wish. However the Nanny State has in it’s infinite Nannyness to protect us from sex abusers has produced the unintended consequence of ruining peoples lives that do not necessarily need to be ruined.

    We need to fix the nanny state.

  389. She wasn’t a victim

  390. 20 year old guy on 15 year old girl is okay?

    Wow.

  391. very nice:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLq7Aqd_H7g

  392. Did I also mention that I took this morning off to sample the sweet sweet powder.

    Have some coke and a smile.

  393. There are still sodomy laws and blue laws I don’t think those are ok either….

    Low hanging fruit alert!

  394. Already been picked, Vmax.

  395. Jazz,
    Another advantage to living out in the Rocky Mountain states is the easy access to outdoor recreation.

    It puts you in touch with nature and mellows your vibe. Makes for a nice life.

  396. Fair enough, point conceded on that one.

    I still wonder where one draws the line.

    Proving that conservatives (like Hotspur) are gracious even when bested on a point.

    As to your question of drawing the line, we have touched on drawing several lines and/or distinctions. Which one shall we try to dicuss? (I’ll try to be civil.) The question of having your 18th birthday magically make you an adult? Which laws are good and which ones are bad? What is the appropriate response to a bad law (civil disobedience, anyone?)

    Or the question of whether wiserbud is a sister-chasing, moonshine swilling, missing tooth hicktard?

  397. Here’s a clue for you deniers. Lots of 15 yo girls are sexually active. Lots of 15 yo girls like older guys. Some 18–20 young men like to sleep with young girls. It happens every day.

  398. Jazz,
    Can you handle the mellow:
    http://tinyurl.com/yhdtz4l

  399. It puts you in touch with nature and mellows your vibe. Makes for a nice life.

    I like where your head is at, Uni.

  400. Someone post a new thread. This one is getting stale (and really motherfucking slow).

  401. “What is the appropriate response to a bad law (civil disobedience, anyone?)”

    In this case is it fucking a 15 year old girl?

  402. Can you handle the mellow:

    Oh, come on – are you REALLY Pippi Longstocking?

  403. “are you REALLY Pippi Longstocking?”

    Not sure what that means.

  404. “What is the appropriate response to a bad law (civil disobedience, anyone?)”

    In this case is it fucking a 15 year old girl?

    If Uni’s suggestion is accurate, probably a big cheerleader orgy.

  405. Not sure what that means.

    I was joshing – you linked to a bucolic scene that reminds me of the Swiss Miss girl or Pippi Longstocking.

  406. Well, the debate is over between me and PJM, because her idea of a twenty year old (or nineteen) taking a fifteen year old to bed being okay puts us miles apart on the morality spectrum.

    But, AD, we could also build a premise that the girl turned fifteen on that day, and that the guy was to turn nineteen on the next. Would that change your mind?

  407. If Uni’s suggestion is accurate, probably a big cheerleader orgy.

    As long as they’re all related.

    amiright?

  408. The question of having your 18th birthday magically make you an adult? Which laws are good and which ones are bad?

    I thought that 26 was the “new” adulthood. . . then the state takes care of you until you are no longer productive. At that point you are given a pill and a guide to organ donation.

  409. so, we done here?

  410. But, AD, we could also build a premise that the girl turned fifteen on that day, and that the guy was to turn nineteen on the next. Would that change your mind?

    Yes, but then we’d have some actual facts to discuss, wouldn’t we? PG, the asshole :-), tossed some chum in the water and then split.

    My personal belief is that actual physical age has little to do with maturity. Why does turning 16 magically make it okay to be able to drive? 18 to vote/serve in the military? 21 to drink? These are arbitrary dates set by stodgy rulemakers, because it is easier than evaluating an individual’s ability to make mature decisions. (and for the record, I think, if they are gonna use age, those three particular ages should be reversed).

  411. when I was 15 my bf was 18. I was in the middle of my sophomore year and he had graduated the year before. He was dating a 22 yr old woman and broke up with her to start dating me. He NEVER pressured me into anything and was fine to wait as long as I wanted. He had a job where he worked offshore for two weeks and then was home a week. It was great b/c I was able to be in high school without the drama of a high school bf that all of my best girlfriends were dealing with and at the same time be attached to someone who loved and respected me. I was 17 when I graduated and he was then 20 and he asked me to marry him. Ring and all.

  412. This was also the mid 80’s

  413. For some reason this thread makes me want to read Lolita again.

  414. Victimless crimes don’t count.

    How is sodomy a victimless crime? Are you assuming it is always consensual?

  415. Let’s put it this way, I think the parents should have paid better attention to what their daughter was doing and it’d wrong that this teenager is going to be affected for the rest of his life because of this

  416. There are still sodomy laws and blue laws I don’t think those are ok either

    Yeah, we can argue some more in the next poat.

  417. so, we done here?

    Depends. Got any young sisters or cousins?

  418. By Nov of 88 I did the kindest thing I have ever done for someone and broke up with him. The next woman he dated (his age) he married and they have two beautiful kids and they have been married now for 19 years

  419. Oops, that was supposed to be a response to wiserbud. Don’t know what happened.

  420. We need to have a Hostages orgy, the sexual tension in this place is unbelievable.

  421. How is sodomy a victimless crime? Are you assuming it is always consensual?

    This question from a lawyer? If it isn’t consensual, then it is rape, not sodomy. Or xbad and Dolly.

  422. Sohos,
    This man you dated, by chance did his girlfriend before you, and the girl he ended up marrying, both have large boobs?

  423. BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! Best April Fool’s joke I’ve seen today.

    http://tinyurl.com/yheynql

  424. hahahaha! He is a tit man

  425. new drive-time post.

    enjoy. I’ll bbl.

  426. Why does turning 16 magically make it okay to be able to drive?
    It is the age when you are eligible. You still have to demonstrate proficiency by taking training and passing written and driving tests – at least in my state.

    18 to vote/serve in the military?
    It used to be 21 to vote, but in the wake of Vietnam, people said if you’re old enough to get drafted, you’re old enough to have the vote, and I agree with that.

    21 to drink?
    We tried lowering the age post-Vietnam as well, but the auto accident rates went off the charts, so the age was raised to 21.

  427. “hahahaha! He is a tit man”

    Ha!
    We all have our needs.

  428. This question from a lawyer? If it isn’t consensual, then it is rape, not sodomy.

    Funny. My legal dictionary states that rape is usually unconsensual intercorse with a female, and that sodomy covers a large swath of unnatural sexual intecourse, including beasteality and buggery, and that it can be consensual or by forcible compulsion.

    Huh. Imagine that. The Fucking lawyer asked the right question after all.

  429. I didn’t say it was ok for a 20 year old to hook up with a 15 year old. You said I did, nice try.

    In some states a 17 year old a
    date an 18. That is also wrong.

    I think a 21 year old is able to go to bars and clubs and things and should move on up

  430. I didn’t say it was ok for a 20 year old to hook up with a 15 year old. You said I did, nice try.

    I thought you said the age should be raised to 21. My bad.

  431. I did. Because I think a 20 year old should be able to date a 17 year old if they do choose. I think the parents should pay better attention to their children….. but you just enjoy your high horse hotspur. It’s obvious you’re a much moral person than I

  432. PJM, a 20 year old CAN date a 17 year old. States won’t apply statutory rape to 16 year olds or higher, at least as far as I know.

    We were talking about a 15 year old and an 18 year old. When you said the age should be raised to 21 I thought you meant as applied to 15 year olds, implying that 20 on 15 was okay.

    So, shut up woman and get on my horse.

  433. If a 18 year old went after my daughter when she was 15 — no court would have to deal with him.

    Fifteen is still a baby.

    Everyone thinks they were mature at 15.

    You weren’t.

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