Call It What You Like, Illegal Is Still Illegal

With so many dead-tree media publications competing for a new life as toilet paper, fire starters, bird cage liners, and packing materials, it is sometimes difficult to figure out why one has chosen to be more idiotic than others.  But the venerable red-rimmed rag known as ‘Newsweek’ gets my vote for this self-penned story by an ‘undocumented’ student who was no longer able to stay at UC Bezerkerly, no matter how hard she was working, and feels that this is somehow a tradgedy that we should all wring our hands over and act like something must be done.

To the editors of Newsweek, why is this a story worth telling? Did you offer the counterpoint of students who were citizens who were not able to get scholarships because of the illegals, sorry, “undocumented” who are taking scholarship money from them?  Really, the only point of this ‘story’ is to make the average person think “Oh, this is so sad.  If we would just GIVE them citizenship, then they can take even more of our tax money and get a college education.   If we stop enforcing a law for some, then we have to stop enforcing them for all.

I went to law school with a guy who was finishing getting his citizenship.  He and his family had done it the right way, and it was a years long process.  He had some choice words for people like this, and they were not sympathetic by any stretch of the imagination.   There are distinctions between U.S. Citizens and non-citizens.  Citizenship has a price, which thanks to the party of tax and spend, is going up precipitously.

The benefits that we pay for should be reserved to citizens alone, as should the rights.  And yet, the people at Snoozeweek obviously feel that our birthright, yours and mine, means so little that you ought to be talked into giving it away, with propaganda that includes all the cliches, and written in a way to cloy at your heart.  Unless you are one of those rrrrrrrracist! conservatives who actually gives thought to what is said.

This story is an example of why it is not enough that such publications are tanking with declining readership.  The people who give column inches to this kind of story will always land somewhere, either other publications, or in the ivy covered walls of academia, ready to cripple another generation of minds with the doctrine of “feeling” trumping the bedrock of logic and law.

In the spring of 2008, I sat at my high-school graduation ceremony, wearing my navy-blue robes, with every stole and honorary pin achievable, looking every bit like the overachiever that I am. My enthusiasm surely made me look like a typical graduate. But my future appeared very different from that of my classmates. I am an undocumented person. Six months after I was born, my family emigrated from Mexico to Los Angeles illegally—with little more than one suitcase but great hopes for the future. My parents wanted to give their two daughters opportunities that weren’t available back home.

Hard worker…check.

But still here illegally…check.

Still, for most of high school, one opportunity seemed like a farfetched dream. Though I had a great deal of support from many different people, nobody seemed sure how I could navigate the system to gain a college education. Information on all aspects of that process was sketchy, so I was stepping onto an unmarked path. It was difficult to live without any assurance that high school would lead, as it would for most of my classmates, to the next stage. I found solace in my studies. I took seven AP classes to test my abilities as a student and delighted in the fact that I could walk into AP English ready to dissect a Shakespeare play. I played the cello to calm my soul, dreaming of a place where music filled the air. I joined my school’s leadership ranks and took pride in my ability to motivate people. And I joined clubs that enabled me to give back to a place I loved, organizing two toy drives and devoting more than 300 hours to community service.

Intellectual and gifted…check.

College could be a problem since you are here illegally…check.

Willing to give of time and effort to enhance the lives of others…Check.

Every activity allowed me to cling to some sense of normalcy in a life that was changing. My parents’ marriage had begun to crumble, slowly and painfully. I had to learn to stand on my own, to be accountable to myself. School felt safe, and I was fortunate to have a support system in a special program for economically disadvantaged students who hoped to attend college. Every student in the program had a story of hardship, so I no longer felt quite so alone and isolated in my struggle.

Broken home and overcame hardships…check.

(But STILL here illegally.)

I eventually came up with a small list of possible colleges—state schools that I might be able to afford or schools that offered scholarships for undocumented students. That April, I received my acceptance to UC Berkeley, and soon after, a few small scholarships. It was a bittersweet triumph. Though I was qualified to attend the best public university in the nation, I couldn’t afford it. My funds barely totaled $5,000, only about one semester’s tuition. Still, I wanted to attend my dream school for at least that first semester. So after graduation I hopped on a Greyhound bus with two suitcases and headed to Berkeley.

So you, Ms. Smart Person, knew you couldn’t stay, but went anyway.

I found a tiny room near the campus, enrolled in classes, and landed a job selling jewelry in a San Francisco mall. From Friday through Monday, I worked full-time, waking up at 6:30 a.m. to get to work by 9. I couldn’t spend the weekends like other students, lazing in the sun or exploring neighborhoods. Still, for two glorious days each week, Tuesday and Thursday, I had classes from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. and was taught by some amazing professors. I would run from one class to the next, using my breaks to stop by the library. I slept odd hours, many days finishing homework at the crack of dawn. I was very well organized. Wednesday was the day I took care of business—everything from food shopping to laundry to paying bills.

So like so many others, you had to work hard and manage your time while you were in school, and you managed to find an employer that didn’t bother to see if it was hiring illegals.

Surprisingly, I found time to make friends and, perhaps more surprisingly, mostly with political conservatives. They proved to be remarkably open-minded, and I loved their outlandish conversations and unabashed candor. They never questioned my odd hours, nor did I offer to explain. They apparently believed that I was simply another workaholic. Perhaps not so “simply,” but I was a workaholic for sure. I had no choice.

A ‘conservative’ at Bezerkerly?  Isn’t that like ‘post-racial’ president?  And don’t give me the “no choice” whine, missy.  You could have not taken the opportunity from another student who could afford it.

As expected, my funds ran out right after that first semester, forcing me to leave that very special school. I am back home now and attending community college. And I am back on the same taxing schedule—two days of classes and four days of work. My goal is to save some money while finishing up my associate’s degree. I still enjoy school, but dream about someday attending Berkeley again.

Cheer up.  Maybe La Raza will come up with a scofflaws scholarship program.  In the meantime, you might try NOT whining to me about not being able to enjoy the benefits available to citizens while you obviously have no problem whatsoever disrespecting our laws.  I have no use for you, and no use for a state that allows its schools and employers to aid and abet such flagrant violations of our laws.

355 Comments

  1. Racist!

  2. Nice Job! How many fingers did you sprain typing that?

  3. Paragraphs, BiW.

    BiW, paragraphs.

  4. Go Bears!

  5. Someone wake me when it’s over….

    (Just kidding. It’s good stuff. It is just so Un-Hostagesque.)

  6. Blockquotes, bite Rosetta.

    Rosetta, be bitten by blockquotes.

  7. Meatloaf, can I go in and edit this?

    You’re setting my Evelyn Woods on fire.

  8. Sean, take a lead pipe and beat Rosieposie with it.

    Rosie, run over Sean with your Geo Metro.

  9. It is just so Un-Hostagesque

    Maybe La Raza will come up with a scofflaws scholarship program. In the meantime, you might try NOT whining to me about not being able to enjoy the benefits available to citizens while you obviously have no problem whatsoever disrespecting our laws.

    Dude, if Rosetta had written that, you’d stand up and clap.

  10. Oh great. Cassidy is here.

    *watches in horror as shiv is plunged into belly of thread*

  11. ‘Sup, pendejos y mariposas?

  12. You’re setting my Evelyn Woods on fire.

    Didn’t the swimmer drown her, too?

  13. Just because you might have missed it
    We were joking with my mom today about her scooter.
    We decided she needed spinners for her Jazzy. Gotta pimp her ride and keep up with the homeys like MCPO.

  14. It needs a picture or sommin to break it up ;)

    Hey, related – I knew about this, but kinda forgot, and someone brought it up on local radio; the squirrely dealo about foreigners/tax/business.

    Basically, they get five years w/o having to pay taxes. They move to Detroit, open a Beer/wine/liquor store (or a gas station) – enjoy those tax free goodies, then when their five years are up, they sell it to their cousin who just moved here. WTF?!?

  15. I SAW THAT, YOU FILTHY MOTHER FUCKER!!! I’LL SHOW YOU A FUCKING SHIV BEING PLUNGED INTO SOMEONE’S FUCKING BELLY!!!

  16. Vmax – Tell her she needs it to be candy apple red with 3 coats of clear!

  17. v-max, we’re always talking scooters here. My dad only has one leg, and my grandpa’s 93. He wants a scooter so he can go to the grocery store by himself (can’t drive anymore.)

    Scooters aren’t recommended for one-legged-men ’cause they’ll stop moving as much. At least with a chair he gets the “workout” from moving the chair.

  18. (what’s up with Sean?)

  19. Vmax – Tell her she needs it to be candy apple red with 3 coats of clear!

    How’s that Mirage paint working out on your’s, MCPOLD? You gettin’ fewer tickets now?

  20. Sean thinks if he can act crazy, the rest of the cool kids will accept him.

  21. That was directed at Rosie, Carin.

  22. I SAW THAT, YOU FILTHY MOTHER FUCKER!!! I’LL SHOW YOU A FUCKING SHIV BEING PLUNGED INTO SOMEONE’S FUCKING BELLY!!!

    Hahahahahaha!!!

    *calls doctor*

    “No, the Diprivan seems not to be having any effect on Sean”

  23. Sean is off his meds, Pie In.

    And by “meds” I mean the model airplane glue he’s sniffed since he was 12.

  24. We were joking with my mom today about her scooter.
    We decided she needed spinners for her Jazzy. Gotta pimp her ride and keep up with the homeys like MCPO.

    I think that’s awesome, Vmax. If I was in a scooter, I would have all kinds of fun stuff on it.

    It would be more tricked out than Car In after prom.

    I don’t really even know what that means but it sounds like it would piss Car In off.

    *runs away*

  25. It is metal flake red MCPO!

    In reply to the undocumented crybaby Mr BiW brought to our attention. I went to community college FIRST. Worked and scraped and saved and made it into UF Engineering school.

    I then was divorced and could not afford Ex wife payments as well as school. So I worked 3 jobs and 100 hours a week for 3 years to pay off the debt the ex put me in. I was so tired I would blink and start dreaming.

    So cry me a river.

  26. Whew!
    I thought Sean was pissed because he saw my spinners thing 2x!

  27. Because we’re both pretty much bald, I know sometimes people get me and MCPO mixed up

    Here’s me:

    http://tinyurl.com/lfnowx

    Now here’s a picture of MCPO:

    http://tinyurl.com/l3l9l8

  28. Carin
    My mom had polio in the 1940’s. She is paralyzed from her shoulders down. She was 8 when she sat down and never got back up again.

  29. I have a customer who has a snow plow rigged to his wheel chair.

  30. Rosie – I would never let a filthy Llama kiss me!!!
    .
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    Now, an Alpaca, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  31. You look like an error message, Rosie.

  32. Rosie looks like an error, Sean.

  33. Two thumbs up? You bastards.

    Get busy beating this piece of shit down with thumbs down, you lazy so in sos!

  34. I’m a little surprised someone used just a thumb, and not the whole fist.

  35. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Is there a way to give this thread a fist down?

    *records in ledger that xbrad made teh funneh in August*

  36. *records in ledger that Rosetta made an inappropriate proposition to a housecat*

  37. Rosie???

    http://tinyurl.com/mlg8oo

  38. Yikes!
    Did you see this at Theos?
    http://www.theospark.net/2009/08/video-spike-strips-speed-bullets.html
    If you do not watch anything watch the last 30 seconds. I am amazed all 3 of them are alive.
    And I want to know about the guy that bailed out the window while doing 95. Was that better than getting caught in the crossfire?

  39. Also, BiW, on the topic of your post:

    I took seven AP classes to test my abilities as a student and delighted in the fact that I could walk into AP English ready to dissect a Shakespeare play. I played the cello to calm my soul, dreaming of a place where music filled the air. I joined my school’s leadership ranks and took pride in my ability to motivate people. And I joined clubs that enabled me to give back to a place I loved, organizing two toy drives and devoting more than 300 hours to community service.

    I, for one, would be damn proud to have you as a citizen of this great country.

    Now put down the fucking cello and apply for citizenship you fucking whining baby.

    I will welcome you with open arms when you are a brilliant hard-working over-achiever that respects the laws of the country.

    Until then STFU. Get the fuck in line like my great-grandparents did.

    She brags about how smart and diligent she is with not one mention of the inconvenient truth that you apply, wait and then take a fucking test to enjoy the fruits of this country.

  40. “Boss”, you forgot Sodium Chloride Fornication as opposed to “F**K SALT”. He has been at IB a bunch, and starting to get High Brow on us….

  41. Rosie???

    http://tinyurl.com/mlg8oo

    Silence of the Rabbits. But with love.

  42. PJM, whatcha doing??

    http://tinyurl.com/nj7z3d

  43. Sox, I hate to say it, but I didn’t read the previous thread. I’ve got limited access, and I’d rather spend time rubbing your fur the wrong way than reading about Rosie’s sex habits.

  44. I mean, frankly, it isn’t like Rosetta is gonna say anything profound.

  45. I dint realize that hostages did serious shit. Good for ya. I’ll probably read it tomorrow when I’m sober.

  46. Read it twice, Pendejo. Once for me. I’ll be busy tomorrow huffing Dow Scrubbing Bubbles and smoking dried frog turds…

    *yes, there really are quite a few frog turds around the house.

  47. Gotta run. See you shits in a day or two.

  48. I know of no exclusive organization that doesn’t require some sort of exercise that must be performed to become a member.

    Even the stupid AARP requires that you not get eaten by a bear before you turn 50.

    Getting carried over an imaginary line when you were pooping in a diaper doesn’t quite cut it.

    One thing that I think is driving all the pissed off racist bitter-clinging Nazis is that we’ve allowed small liberal encroachments without any protest.

    The right’s acquiesence in the face of those encroachments has obvioulsy been assumed to indicate a lack of passion at best or a lack of disagreement at worst.

    I don’t believe it once crossed the mind of liberals that the right would view with a harsh eye, like a parent does with a child playing in the yard but near the street, that a lack of a spanking up to this point means lack of spanking forever.

    The left didn’t expect the ass-whipping that would occur immediately before the child runs into the street in the path of an oncoming truck.

    The left has pushed and pushed and pushed and I think a lot of people in this country have had it.

    I think that it’s possible, before political stasis is restored, that the post office will be gone, Big Bird will have to find a private pimp and all sundry of liberal incrementalisms will be beaten to hell where they belong.

    And 70% of the members of Congress will be out of a job by 2016.

    I also like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory as a possible documentary.

  49. I think this post is a violation of The Hostages EULA.

  50. and I’d rather spend time rubbing your fur the wrong way than reading about Rosie’s sex habits.

    Just don’t forget about the Static Electricity Thing and go juggling Gas Cans again. Had the whole neighborhood in an uproar.

  51. And 70% of the members of Congress will be out of a job by 2016.

    From your keyboard to the Monitor of All Mighty GOD.

  52. Well now, let’s not be hasty! After all, Mel Martinez and many Latinos in the Republican Party *cough*RINO*cough* are threatening to leave because we are all racists for not allowing a total amnesty and open borders.

    My response: Que lastima, putos!

  53. What the hell happened??

  54. Stop feeding rat poison to the poats!

  55. Dude! What did I say??

  56. I think it was that Spanish bit. Everybody went hunting for Messican to translate for them.

  57. The local pet shop has delivered some delicious hot braised chicken and egg roll.

    bbl

    *answers door*

    Hey! I ordered extra hot mustard!

    http://tinyurl.com/lem2k4

  58. MCPO

    You’r meskin is pretty good. Are you from TX or one of the other disputed territories?

  59. no cerveza, no trabajo!

  60. I see this thing is dying a slow and painful death.

  61. MCPO?

  62. Pendejo – fey 6 anos por la Provincia de Cadiz.

  63. Lauraw is hot in a disturbing kind of way.
    das Talent, meinen Kopf zu verlieren, hat mich weit gebracht, naja, auf jeden Fall hier her.

  64. Get out the crash cart! Charge to 250! Clear!
    Kzzzzap

  65. *flatline*

  66. Charge to 300!
    Clear!
    Kzzzzap!

  67. Dunk it in a water tank. It will reflexively take a breath.

  68. —————————————————————————-

  69. They speak meskin in Cadiz???? I’ll be go to hell.

  70. I almost called TOD, that was close

  71. wow I had no idea you guys were over here

  72. Where did you think we were lovely sOhOs!

  73. I’m not here.

  74. back on the other thread. I hadnt refreshed

  75. No I did not, so go kill someone else’s poat, ok?

    Aw. But I want to kill this poat.

  76. Excellent post, BiW.

    My wife and I watched a movie called Crossing Over last night, which addresses this topic. It starts out pretty one-sided (pro-illegal), with the typical “bad white American” stereotypes, but it made some real brave choices as well, such as having a Muslim family honor-kill their daughter, because she tries to be ‘too American.” Lots of fuel for discussion.

    One part of the movie that kind of bothered me was the sympathy they were trying to elicit for some of the illegals. While their stories are heart-breaking, they are also due to their bad choices through-out, starting with living here illegally. Not that we all don;t make bad choices in our lives, the only sympathy I have for those who do are are those who then try to correct their mistakes, not make them worse with even more bad decisions.

    All in all, a decent flick, which wasn’t as infuriating as it could have been. Of course, the tag line of the movie is offensive in the extreme:

    Every day thousands of people illegally cross our borders… only one thing stands in their way. America.

    Yeah. How dare we try to maintain our sovereignty and protect our country and resources from illegals who simply want what we have, yet refuse to follow the rules to become a contributing part of it?

  77. Um. Does WordPress have dysentery again?

  78. Sohos?
    4

  79. I likes me some girls what wear glasses.

  80. Yeah. How dare we try to maintain our sovereignty and protect our country and resources from illegals who simply want what we have, yet refuse to follow the rules to become a contributing part of it?

    Racist!

  81. Your rules are so bourgeois.

  82. My glasses sota look like that.

  83. Also, this lovely lady was naked quite a bit in the movie.

    http://tinyurl.com/mn8sw2

    My wife said to me, at one point, “This is kinda slow. We can turn it off if you want.” I said “I’ve thought about that, but as long as they keep showing her in the nude, I’m good with sticking with it.”

    :)

  84. I am forbidden

  85. Remember the trick soohoo–delete the http:// part.

  86. I always forget thanks sweetie

  87. WTF????

  88. What it boils down to is we are a nation of LAWS, and every citizen (well most Repubs) know that from the time they are born. It is in our DNA.

    The rest of the world?
    Not.
    So.
    Much.

    They think graft and corruption are normal.
    They think that the laws only apply if you are caught.
    They think nothing of LAW.

    They are not Americans.

    They may be hard working determined individuals that want to succeed. But America is more than that. We all want to succeed but we play by the rules, and the very first rule is that you do not come here illegally!

  89. Tonight…..on the ManLez CinePlex big screen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWCAf-xLV2k

    Show begins in 15 minutes so hurry up.

    And BYOC*

    *bring your own Chianti

  90. Sorry, the blank one was supposed to be the law one, but wordpress has teh aids

  91. It rubs the lotion on its scalp…

  92. You DVDing it, Rosie?

  93. Tonight…..on the ManLez CinePlex big screen:

    What, did you leave your copy of “Sex in the City” at the Y?

  94. Cassidy brings teh funneh!?!!!?

  95. ooooh sounds like fun rosie Ive got the fava beans

  96. He loaned it to DiT

  97. Dick! I asked you to keep that private!

  98. Yeah, I brought teh funneh, YOU DIRTY OLD MOTHER FUCKER!!!

    *sharpens screwdriver*

  99. Silence of the Lambs is a terrific film. I like all of those movies.

  100. One of the seven signs of the apocalypse just happened. Mr. RFH is facechimping. First reading The Hostages, then making a joke about going to the combination Taco Bell and Pizza Hut for dinner tomorrow, now this. WHAT HAVE I DONE??????

  101. I am watching A Time To Kill

  102. Now this is serious racism

  103. Yankees-Red Sox game.

  104. WHAT HAVE I DONE??????

    One of us. One of us.

  105. Romy?
    Lady In Red

  106. Whut? Ha!

  107. I wonder what happened to all those galaxies when I trimmed my fingernails today?

  108. she is very pretty

  109. Mr. RFH?
    a sense of calm.

  110. WHAT HAVE I DONE??????

    Is Mr. Firehyrdrant working on his nic yet?

  111. If anybody here was lazier than me today you had to work at it.

  112. Make sure he picks out a good avatar instead of just letting WordPress assign him one of their lame ones.

  113. Wiser, he would if he hadn’t started reading BiW’s dissertation above.

  114. Romy – Probably only you and I will enjoy this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mERbQIvgJXs

  115. If anybody here was lazier than me today you had to work at it.

    Not me. I was busy, busy, busy.

    Painted the new front porch, both kids were elsewhere, so I had some very nice alone time with the wife, figured out how I had fucked up the Olds carb (I plan to have that sucker running soon!), nice dinner this evening at a restaurant that makes what the wife and I agreed was the best Mojito we’ve had since we went to Cartegena….

    All in all, a very nice day.

  116. Wiser, he would if he hadn’t started reading BiW’s dissertation above.

    nothing lazy. We expect some real creativity here…….

    Like “Shawn.” That’s a great one.

  117. That is an awesome day wiser

  118. I woke up, fell outta bed, dragged a comb across my head. . .

  119. Sox is a slut.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9f-6jygRJk

  120. Nice one, Chief. How about this one?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-DVi0ugelc

  121. I would love to see Rosie’s Gettysburg address done by a clown on xtranormal.
    Or a poodle.

  122. From Michel LeGrand:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMxX5MGuHI

  123. I would love to see Rosie’s Gettysburg address done by a clown on xtranormal.

    You mean this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vow-NwDMJs

  124. I’m watching this tonight:

  125. From Michel LeGrand:

    Jennifer O’Neil was smoking hot in that movie.

  126. Painting the porch – heh

  127. Wiser – I concur!

  128. Some British guys hear that Mare’s in a bikini farther down the beach

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7Vu7cqB20

  129. Wiser, no (though I do quite fondly remember that one), the more recent one from the poon thread.

  130. My grandfather that is still alive ran with those guys Romy.

  131. Some British guys hear that Mare’s in a bikini farther down the beach

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7Vu7cqB20

    I remember watching that movie in the theatre with my Grandpa when it came out, Romy. I was 10, but it is one of those experiences etched in my memory.

  132. Wiser, no (though I do quite fondly remember that one), the more recent one from the poon thread.

    I must have missed that one. Throw me a link and I think I can give you what you want.

  133. He has medals showing he places 2nd or 3rd in a few of the races depicted in the movie. He is 105 and still kicking even after a stroke last year.

  134. so I have been doing a lot of reading tonight on my grandmothers great grandfather who was Nathan Bedford Forrest. This is very interesting to be a direct descendant of his.

  135. Throw me a link and I think I can give you what you want.

    DON’T FALL FOR IT!!! He’s got duct tape and some cheap lotion on him!

  136. He is 105 and still kicking even after a stroke last year.

    That’s freaking awesome, Vmax. Seriously. My wife’s grandmother just hit 98 this summer and she could probably still dance me off the dance floor. I love listening to her stories.

  137. My great Uncle just passed at 102

  138. Nathan Bedford Forrest = Real American Hero!

  139. DON’T FALL FOR IT!!! He’s got duct tape and some cheap lotion on him!

    Cheap? CHEAP???

    I only go for the best, Oldy McOlderson.

  140. DON’T FALL FOR IT!!! He’s got duct tape and some cheap lotion on him

    Yeah, and the cheap lotion chaffes. Badly.

  141. Vmax, that is major league cool.

  142. Wiser, I’ll pay you for the bandwidth to post it again.

    Comment by Rosetta on August 15, 2009 10:09 pm
    Four score and seven poon ago our fathers brought forth on this continent while our mothers were baking pies, a new nation, conceived in some poon, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal except for the Mexicans.

    Now we are engaged in a great poon war (the episode with Jar Jar Binks) testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of oh look, a penny. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. Take me home to a final resting place for those who here gave their poon that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should buy slap chop and get a free graty.

    But, in a larger poon, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men and cookie monsters, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poon power to add or detract. from the chikens –coming home to roost in this world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated are you still reading this – what the fuck is wrong with you, also, poon here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced like boner in growing pains. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us , namely tapping some hot negra (that’s what my grandma calls those people) poon– that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of my pen is huge — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in a van down by the river — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the poon, shall not perish from the earth like what happens at the end of Mario Brothers.

  143. Those British guys?

    Bunch a pussies. Kept running away from all the French and German guys in the race. Americans would have kicked their asses, then strolled the rest of the way.

  144. I have been asking him all kinds of questions about the depression Wiser.
    He has never owned a stock after 1930. It shaped that generations life. I have always heard that you should have 3-6 months of reserve available in your finances. I have never had that, and really really wish I did now!

  145. And duct tape is amazingly useful, no matter what you are trying to accomplish.

    http://tinyurl.com/cvsfcp

  146. Did you all know that BiW used to be a model?

    It’s TRUE!

    http://tinyurl.com/oxmdej

  147. mcpo its just so weird. I have always know he was my great, great, great grandfather maybe one more great. I know how it goes down. His daughter had my grandma’s dad…

  148. Sohos – I read his biography for the first time in 7th grade. He was an amazing man.

    http://tinyurl.com/kp3he4

  149. We have a real photograph of him. It is OLD…..I am doing a lot of internet reading now.

  150. well, fuck. The clown is no longer available on Xtranormal.

    At least not without dropping $40.

  151. wiser, not worth $40.

  152. I have always heard that you should have 3-6 months of reserve available in your finances.

    Make it at least a year.

  153. why does he have duct tape there?

  154. wiser, not worth $40.

    If I had more time to do that more often, I would pay it. If I could do it without net access, like on my 6 hour flight this week, that would be great.

    I’m gonna have to think about this…..

  155. Well fuck me. I knew I’d busted the DVD drive on the laptop, so I bought an external. Now the laptop won’t let me use it.

    The “new hardware” shows, and the device manager says it’s fine, but when I click on “My Computer” it won’t show it.

  156. The “new hardware” shows, and the device manager says it’s fine, but when I click on “My Computer” it won’t show it.

    Can you download the driver?

  157. I’m looking for it right now.

  158. Nathan Bedford Forrest = Real American Hero!

    Um, I’m not casting aspersions on sohos’ family here, but the man was a traitor and a racist. Not what I’d call an American Hero, real or otherwise.

  159. Mare?

    http://tinyurl.com/nmbkcr

  160. Fuck, I’ve found the product, and they don’t have any fucking drivers to download.

  161. but the man was a traitor and a racist. </i?

    Revisionist history, my boy.

  162. These are misconceptions Sean. He was the first grand wizard in the clan but it was in the beginning of the Klan before it morphed into hangings etc…

  163. Not that I am defending him

  164. Forrest may have been the first Grand Wizard of the KKK, but, according to wikipedia, he may have only joined because he opposed Reconstruction

    Forrest’s personal sentiments on the issue of race, however, were quite different from that of the KKK. Forrest was invited and gave a speech to organization of black Southerners called the “Jubilee of Pole-Bearers” in 1875. In this speech, Forrest espoused a radically progressive agenda of equality and harmony between black and white Americans.

    jus’ sayin’

  165. Revisionist history my ass. We can debate the racist stuff (though possibly being a founder of the Klan doesn’t give him any points in my book) but the man was a traitor, clear and simple. He took up arms against the United States.

    Gonna go have dinner now. I’ll be back to re-fight the Civil War later.

  166. Right wiserbud he was against reconstruction

  167. He took up arms against the United States.

    Hard to hold him to task for that, considering the time.

    Would you call any of us traitors if we take up arms against the current administration, should the situation call for it?

  168. The Constitution did not prohibit seceding from the Union. One must remember, at the time, loyalty to the state was more culturally important than fealty to the federal government.

  169. After the Civil War, Forrest lent his name to a group of enforcers of the Democratic Party known as the Ku Klux Klan. Disenchanted with the activities of the group he ordered it to disband in 1869, which did not happen. The Klan and Forrest went separate ways but the stigma of his days as slave trader, the Fort Pillow incident and his brief association with the Klan would forever raise questions about one of America’s greatest tactical minds.

  170. I was thinking the exact same thing Wiserbud if right now things got heated I would stand with Texas. That is the conversation with my grandma that started this whole thing off today.

  171. Would you call any of us traitors if we take up arms against the current administration, should the situation call for it?

    I don’t see that as ever being likely.

    Anybody boycotting the UK over the Lockerbie thing? I’m thinking that I’ll stop drinking my favorite beers (Bass, Fuller’s, Sam Smith’s) to help make a statement.

    It sure seemed to wake the French up when we boycotted their wine.

  172. 1/2 the country took up arms against the United States are all the Confederates traitors?

  173. Wasn’t that the Scottish government? Explain to me more Geoff please

  174. I’m boycotting driving on the left hand side of the road when I’m shit-faced.

  175. you might read this Sean:

    http://www.nathanbedfordforrest.net/

    and like I said not defending just learning

  176. we are going to Ireland next summer and everyone has elected ME the driver b/c none of them think they can drive on the wrong said of the road…YIKES

  177. It was indeed the Scottish Government, as opposed to the British Government. Having said that, they are very closely related entities. And I already gave up scotch, and giving up haggis isn’t going to be a real burden.

  178. I don’t see that as ever being likely.

    Perhaps not. And probably won’t happen. But considering some of the things this new crew is attempting, how far does it have to go before we do stand up and say “no more.”? And, if so, are we then traitors?

  179. what started this whole thing is last week I had the race card thrown in my face and was basically called a racist…it is a very strange thing to have happen to you by someone you know and how do you defend yourself? I have started saying that I only object to the WHITE part of OBAMA. I cant speak to the black part b/c I dont know about that but for the white part I say the guy is an incompetent idiot.

  180. If they were traitors, why were they not charged with treason? None of the Confederates were. They were all pardoned.

  181. Sohos – Had an old friend from HS do that to me on Facechimp. I just replied: “HAHAHAHA Yeah, right!”

  182. People are starting to say : No More! you can hear them in the town meetings and being called “AstroTurf” and “angry mobs”, but people are speaking out and I for one see that as our duty NOT as being a traitor. I swear we could make a shit load of money if we started selling t-shirts that said Astroturf or just had a big strip of Astroturf running through the middle.

  183. Thats where mine was mcpo

  184. Sohos, I was called a Southern racist, and I answered if I’m racist, why wouldn’t I send my kids to the 99% white public school instead of paying for tuition, uniforms, and every other damn thing at a 50% black private school.

  185. Its a weird feeling to be called that. It really makes you think.

  186. Sohos- It’s been thrown out there by the left so much in the last 18 months that it has about as much effect as someone shouting, “Fishsticks!” at me.

  187. Sohos, I think it’s a reflex action for liberals who can’t think for themselves.

  188. thats what my dad was saying tonight. It no longer holds water. You know after the OJ trial racism (the word and meaning) still had some effect, but now its so used up and everything is: well you don’t like that a black man is President well its cause YOUR racist and not that you are traditionalist and hate socialism…Lets not forget the bastard is HALF WHITE

  189. It’s been a while since I’ve been called a racist, and it is one of the more infuriating charges. There’s no defense. You can only protest your innocence, and that just makes you look guilty.

    And if you point out the ways that you act in a colorblind manner, well, that is just like saying “Some of my closest friends are black”

  190. thats exactly right xbrad

  191. And any black person who speaks out against him is a traitor and an Uncle Tom or an Oreo.

  192. What’s really incredible about the “racism” charge is that all of our objections have absolutely nothing to do with race. I couldn’t care less what the color is of the man or woman making the type of decisions that are currently being made.

    Am I a racist for being against the ideas of Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, etc? These are the people who are trying to destroy my country from within. Placing a black man at the forefront of these ideas does not change my opinion of them.

    In fact, the true racists are those on the left. They are so enamored with their leader because of his race that they are blind to what he is trying to do.

  193. Wiser, you are sexist for being against Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, etc. ;)

  194. it is such a catch 22

  195. Woot! Sohos agrees with me.

    Either I’m one smart motherfucker…

    Or the EndTimes are very, very near.

  196. I told my black “friend” that if he thought that Obama was a good President just b/c he is black IS racist

  197. Wiser, you are sexist for being against Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, etc.

    Well, that goes without saying….

  198. Am I a whitist because I think Harry Reid is a yammery, lying, douchebag?

    I’m okay with that, but I need to fill out this questionnaire. Not sure which box to check.

  199. I read that as Wiserbud you are sexiest for being against…

  200. Wiserbud up against Pelosi is sexy?

    Me, I’d try to stay as far away from her as possible.

  201. any of yall watch True Blood?

  202. Wiserbud up against Pelosi is sexy?

    Well, guess all that money I spent on the Cialis is wasted.

    Thanks, Xbitch.

  203. I saw something about True Blood, recently. I haven’t watched any of it yet.

  204. Hey, I can’t remember which, but either Boxer or Fienstien is worth a tab of Cialis if you can slam a fifth of tequila.

  205. any of yall watch True Blood?

    Didn’t we already have this conversation?

    I refuse to give money to HBO, as long as they continue to air Bill Maher’s anti-American crap.

  206. oooops sorry about that I think I was drinking THAT night

  207. I’ve heard TB is good, but I just don’t have time to watch it.

  208. Hey, I can’t remember which, but either Boxer or Fienstien is worth a tab of Cialis if you can slam a fifth of tequila.

    It would take a case. And that would be afterwards, so I can attempt to wipe the memory from my mind

  209. Of course, other than movies, I haven’t turned my television on in a couple of months.

  210. its so fun

  211. ‘k, I’m out. nite, ganglia.

  212. Okay, back from dinner.

    Yes, I would consider every Confederate a traitor. Did they consider themselves traitors? Of course not. Were they tried as traitors? No, because that wouldn’t have been practical or expedient. Many of them did face penalties such as the loss of their rights as citizens for a time, though.

    This is hardly the forum in which we should be having the discussion about historical standards or how we should judge the actions of people from the past through the lens of today’s morality.

    What I’m basically trying to say here is FUCK SALT!!!

  213. goodnight wiser

  214. As a Virginian, I’m not entirely sure a California native has any Constitutional right to even opine on the Civil War. I’m pretty sure when the topic comes up in conversation, their only job is to drop to their knees and start blowing people.

    A role Sean is singularly well suited to.

  215. Pelosi is teh suck! Harry Reid is teh suck! Next!

  216. fuck off, wiser.

    And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

  217. You mean the War of Northern Aggression?

  218. As a human male with testicles, I’m not entirely sure that Xbrad…well, you get the idea.

  219. No, DinT, I meant the South’s Gallant Struggle for States Rights.

  220. maybe sean is right this is a boobie blog

  221. South’s Gallant Struggle for States Rights.

    EXACTLY!

  222. ;) I think as a Southerner I feel differently respectively

  223. Sohos – are you calling me a boobie??

  224. yes

  225. I’ve always had a bit of a quandry studying the Civil War. I’m a Southerner, by the Grace of God, and love the South, and of course, I venerate my fellow Virginian, Robert E. Lee, possibly the greatest practitioner of the operational art our nation has ever had.

    But I abhor just the thought of the institution of slavery. It goes against the grain of my very fiber, as a Christian, and as a conservative who believes not only in individual responsibility, but individual opportunity.

  226. I think as a native of Wyoming, that I would like to sell all of you as much coal as you can shake a stick at.

  227. OUCH!

  228. Is it dirty, dirty coal? Does it produce smog? Will acid rain strip the leaves from every tree/

    Great!! Sign me up for a couple tons!

  229. that is why you cant really argue it b/c the outcome was the abolishment of slavery

  230. Oh, yeah. There’s all sorts of sulfur compounds and shit in this coal. It’ll strip your car if you apply it properly.

    Also, Lee was a bit of a stick. I mean, the man really didn’t have a lot of imagination. Stonewall Jackson had far more potential to actually win.

  231. Sohos, of course I can argue it.

    I can argue any side of any debate.

    Slavery was mostly a prop to keep the cotton economy strong. Once Whitney invented the cotton gin, and McCormick invented other mechanical agricultural products, slavery would have lost most of its appeal to Southerners. And non-slaveholders would have agitated to end it as it had the effect of depressing wages across the board, much as unskilled illegal immigrants do today. Sooner or later, slavery in the South was going away. But as a result of the war, much of the independence and sovereignty of the states was lost forever. In the short term, this had a salutory effect on our economy and our nation’s growth, but we now seeing the dangers of such a massive federal bureaucracy.

  232. agreed

  233. Jewstin, Stonewall was a damn fine tactician. Hell, Lee called him “my right arm.” But he was no Lee. Lee wasn’t fighting a battle. He was directing a campaign. That’s the operational level of warfare. Lee would have worked at the strategic level, but that option was closed to him, both by Davis, and the underlying fact that the South had no other option than to engage in a strategic defense.

  234. Der.

  235. Sean I take it you are a Yankee?

  236. Nope. I’m an Angels fan. Though I do hate the Yankees less than the Red Sox. Stupid Massholes.

  237. Sean’s a Californian. He’s not even worth cussing at.

  238. California sat out every war but WWII.

  239. I’ll bet when MCPO sailed into Manila Bay with Dewey, he was pissed that there weren’t any Calis on board.

  240. You know, in years past, I might’ve felt the need to defend my home state. Now…meh.

  241. Frankly, dear taintlickers, I don’t give a damn.

  242. As I recall, Stonewall discovered a technological and tactical loophole in warfare that existed at the time. Had Lee listened to him, the South would have won.

    General Lee was very staid and made little effort to change his strategies or to encourage creativity amongst his captains. I think Lee lost because he was ossified. He was tremendously successful at following the rules of warfare prior to the Civil War, but not so great at adapting to fairly big changes in those rules.

  243. Goodnight, history buffs, Civil War buffs and those of you in the buff!

  244. goodnight I am going to bed too

  245. Goodnight, history buffs, Civil War buffs and those of you in the buff!

    Whoot!!! I’m one of each. Though, amateurish in two of three.

    Happy sleeping, MCPO.

  246. “”You know, in years past, I might’ve felt the need to defend my home state. Now…meh.””

    Yeah, hell, I wasn’t even alive during the civil war times. And Wa. wasn’t a state then either.

  247. Goodnight Oldster and Sohoster.

  248. Justin, I think you’d better revisit your history books. Lee was a VERY innovative general. I’m unaware of any great technical innovation Jackson was in favor of (tho he was an incredible leader of troops- and his Shennandoah campaign is the textbook example of maneuver warfare).

    Was Jackson a better tactician than Lee? That’s a matter of opinion. But the record suggests more that Lee appreciated Jackson specifically because Jackson consistently saw exactly what it was that Lee wanted to accomplish, whereas most other generals were not able to make that leap, and instead took counsel of their fears.

  249. Rats! I can’t type itallics so I’m likely to be abed within the hour.

  250. Mom!!!

    Everybody is quitting.

  251. The minie-ball was very new at that time. Minie-balls were more accurate at greater distances than their counterparts and Jackson recognized the fact and used it to his advantage. Lee refused to recognize that and strategize with the additional information.

    General Lee might have been an amazing captain in the prior war, but he failed in the Civil War.

  252. Sure, that’s why Lee lost so many battles. Because he didn’t adopt the Minie ball.

  253. Jewstin, Lee did ultimately fail. But he sure didn’t fail for a lack of generalship. Every Union general who tried to outfight him got his ass handed to him. It wasn’t until Grant just steamrolled over him that he lost.

  254. Because he didn’t adopt the Minie ball.

    I think that’s a pretty fair assessment. What might a fighting force do if their range, accuracy, and reload speed is greater than that of their enemy? Use those advantages? Win, perhaps? I really believe that Lee was really too set in his ways to use those advantages.

    Anyhow, I have no particular love for Grant. I think his greatest insight was to realize that the North had the wealth and population to hammer the South. I think Sherman was far more capable as a leader.

  255. Jewstin, there were any number of Confederate units equipped with the minie ball. Overall, the armament of the south was such a mishmash that just getting a musket into the hand of a trooper, much less getting the SAME TYPE of musket into every trooper’s hand, was a real challenge. The South had enormous logistical difficulties. Having said that, the minie ball was an incremental improvement, not an improvement of an order of magnitude. Further, Lee wasn’t the guy responsible for equipping his troops. That would have been the Secretary of War and the Quartermaster General.

    Now, if he’d had the opportunity to equip his entire army with with Spencer Carbines and turned that down, then you’d have a case.

  256. Neither Grant nor Sherman were particularly subtle. But that doesn’t mean they didn’t have a great deal of talent.

    Grant understood that with the size of his armies, he was never going to outmaneuver a smaller opponent with interior lines of communications. And while few generals would choose to pursue a strategy of attrition, Grant realized that his case was a rare instance where it would in fact be the correct strategy.

  257. I have to disagree Xbrad. The Minie-ball was pretty fundamental at the time. The idea of a head-long frontal assault ought to have died with the invention. Lee couldn’t let go of that idea.

    At Second Manassas Jackson kicked a hell of a lot of ass while Lee was busy whinging and doing a bunch of nothing. Lee out-right rejected Jackson’s tactics, and a new (possibly winning) strategy.

  258. I think it’s just because the USA had God on our side.

  259. Jewstin, the minie ball was an improvement in accuracy and range,, but not any great shakes in improving the rate of fire. You still had to load power, load the ball, ram it home (heh!), cap the lock, aim, and fire. The only step skipped was putting in a patch. Even the very best infantrymen would be hard pressed to get off six rounds a minute. 3 rounds would be a more likely rate.

    That meant you needed to have a large mass of men to achieve any great weight of fire.

    As to Jackson’s tactical success at Second Manassas (and elsewhere), you’re forgetting, he was implementing his slice of Lee’s plan. Lee was sorely tested by the inability of his other generals to measure up to Jackson.

    And like I said, Lee was a practitioner of the operational art. He knew that one battle wasn’t the campaign. He ALWAYS had his eye on the next battle. And further, he understood that his army could never destroy a Union Army. He just didn’t have enough people. But he did know how to maneuver to force the Union to dance to his tune. He was buying time. Why do you think he was all the way up at Gettysburg? To force the Union to break off any attempt to attack Richmond.

  260. I’m sticking with God on our side.

  261. It’s a bit surprising to me that we can start off with a post about immigration and end up discussing generals, strategy and tactics from more than a century past.

    Hostages are AWESOME!

  262. Well, we could discuss dinner and the wimmin’s cycles

  263. I don’t know if modesty permits me to claim that “I’m AWESOME!”, but I will allow that I am a prince among men.

  264. Dinner was my mom telling me how to take out the garbage and me finally losing my temper and telling her that if she didn’t like the way I emptied the garbage, she could take it out herself.

  265. You’re awesome, XBrad. (Note, not quite all-cap worthy, but certainly lowercase awesome)

  266. I’m thinking it’s about time I make a Hostage Round-Up Road Trip. I’ll crisscross the country, and instead of staying in a Motel 6, I’ll crash on the couch of whatever Hostage is closest.

  267. Xbrad, I think we’re just going to have to disagree about General Lee. I can believe that he was a tremendous captain, but he missed the boat on the Civil War.

    Now, I think I’m off to bed.

  268. Well, Xbrad, if you find yourself in Idaho I have a terribly comfy futon for your crashing pleasure.

    Try not to let doggy eat your brain. She gets gassy.

    Now I’m really off to bed.

  269. A FUTON?

    I want a couch, dammit.

    You really are gay, aren’t you, futon boy?

  270. And I can’t seem to find my teddy bear, so if someone could loan me one, that would be ncie.

  271. Surely Rosetta would loan you his “sleepytime potato”

    (I know. Stop calling you Shirley)

  272. I was hoping more for an inflatable goat.

  273. Oh, so you’ll be staying at the TBoM’s then?

  274. 13.5 hours of northeast traffic all the way thru DC and I finally can get out of my car. Holy Shit am I tired. X how about a Chucky doll? Snuggle up and he’ll fuckin kill you.

  275. Do I get to play with… whichever Tilly sister it was… before the doll kills me? Cuz if I do, that’s OK with me.

  276. Jewstin likes xbrad’s minie-balls.

  277. Who doesn’t, Mesa?

  278. You people are weird.

  279. Jeniffer Tilly, fat tits and all. Off to sleepy time-must ring chicken necks at Sun up. Later….Y’all.

  280. 1-800-CHK-NEKS?

  281. Jennifer, ah yes. Nothing wrong with Meg, either…. I guess I’ll have to put them in Load HEAT one of these days.

    Did shim really just tell us he was gonna choke the chicken?

  282. Polish his dolphin?

  283. Hey SHIM! welcome back.

  284. Wrestle with the one-eyed wonder weenie?

  285. Beat the Bishop?

  286. Shock the Monkey?

    No…. um, that’s Peter Gabriel.

  287. Wut?

  288. We need to recruit more West Coast Hostages.

  289. Or insomniacs.

  290. Yeah, or both. It is pretty thin on the ground tonight.

  291. Sorry Sean. Having computer issues.

  292. Ms. Tilly may not be the hottest thing around, but she looks a hell of a lot better in that dress than Leon does…

    http://tinyurl.com/5584w8

  293. Anybody would look better than Leon in just about any dress.

  294. I dunno, Sean, I think Leon might edge out BiW….

    Or PJ.

  295. Okay. Gonna go have a smoke and a beer and watch some crap on teh teevee.

  296. You people are weird.

    And you are a breath of fresh air….

    * hack *
    * cough *
    * snork *

  297. Okay. Gonna go have a smoke and a beer and watch some crap on teh teevee.

    SeaNm needs further LitterBox Training. Most folks watch shows…

  298. Well, Shimmy is back Strangling Chickens, and mocking their lack of Motor Skills while experiencing Mortal Terror. Rosetta has been off of South Beach, hasn’t lost any of them “Love Handles”, and is STILL going to jump off the roof with the “Mary Poppins” umbrella. Gravity still sucks, sure hope we don’t have to bury him in that gaudy outfit. Mr RFH has been lurking, Ms. LauraW is in the little girls room trying to end the suffering of yesterdays Sunday Brunch from hubby. DinT still has a keyboard. This won’t end well.

    Here is your coffee, Ms Car in. Mondays teh suck….

  299. Whew. Just in time sox…

  300. Its a weird feeling to be called that. It really makes you think.

    It always makes ME think that the person calling me a racist is an idiot.

    It’s the fallback position on my blog when OC’s got nothing else to argue.

  301. It’s been four years since I have walked into the ocean, it’s still salty.

  302. Is that a Dead Chicken in your pocket, or you just glad to see us, Shim?

  303. Sox, how are you at putting chickies to sleep, for good if necessary?

  304. Warning. My gym is closed for the next two weeks. After a few days, I’m prolly gonna have to kick someone’s ass. Mommy needs her couple of hours away or she gets cranky.

  305. Hi Shim, Carin, and Sox.

  306. Oops she is Ca Rin today. Still working on my coffee.

  307. Morning V, how’s life on the pennisula?

  308. We almost had a August cold front Shim!
    It was 77 here this am, but Brooksville was 67 and so was Gainsville. Thank owl gore for globullshit warming

  309. 53 here, vmax.

  310. Yup Ca rin, but you are up above the arctic circle aren’t you? (just kidding I know you are in Detroit) Does anyone expect a cold front in Florida in August? I have been here since 71, and That is far from ordinary.

  311. Hey, Shim. Welcome back. Weren’t you supposed to call me before you headed home?

  312. Wiserbuddy, you are correct. I had family pulling me to all kinds of fuctions. There were 2 funerals to boot. Unexpected.

  313. There were 2 funerals to boot. Unexpected.

    awesome. Sorry to hear that.

    Glad you had a safe, though long, trip home. It was great meeting you. Hopefully we can get more of us together at once at some point, as opposed to these one-on-one meetings.

  314. Hey Carin, are there any good hills near you? Hiking trails are nature’s gym.

    Welcome back to the interubes, Shim! It was very nice to meet you IRL.

    Don’t feel like you have to make all kinds of excuses about not getting together with wiserbud for a second time.

    We understand.

    *nod and a wink*

  315. We understand.

    *crosses lauraw off the Christmas card list

  316. “And I am back on the same taxing schedule”

    It’d be pretty hard to go anemic with that much irony in your diet.

  317. Wildfires in Athens, Greece.

    THE RUINS ARE IN RUINS!

  318. No excuses, I liked him. We laughed are asses off while drinking beers. That’s always fun.

  319. We laughed are asses off while drinking beers.

    And now I have no ass.

  320. http://www.weirdasianews.com/2009/08/21/brick-wielding-grandpa-attacks-redlight-runners/ Chief has been busy, I see.

  321. Sox, how are you at putting chickies to sleep, for good if necessary?

    Not real good. The “Boss” on the other hand is World Class. Years of Chicken Chokin’ practice. Just ask SeaNm. Is there any possibility of dressing them up like turtles? Ms. PJM could help out too. Failing that, if we could put a WW2 Japanese soldier uniform on them, give them a rifle, and toss them up a palm tree, MCPO could come through. You could double-dog dare TboM that he wouldn’t put them chickens where the sun don’t shine, problem solved. Lastly, make them wear EddieBears orange crocs. They will die laughing.

  322. “And now I have no ass.”

    Wet me pass some heawfcawe wefowm. I’w pewsonawwy see tew it that yew get the best covewwage poasibow.

  323. Carin put on your headphones and go for a walk each day for an hour…gets you out of the house ya know. Where the hell is cozmo today?

  324. wow its dead dead dead here….

  325. This poat is fetid and reeks of stale feet. Yucko.

  326. Oh, and greetings, lemmings.

  327. This poat is fetid and reeks of stale feet. Yucko.

    Then shower before you touch anything here after your long weekend of goat groping.

  328. This poat is fetid and reeks of stale feet. Yucko.

    BrewFan probably left his CheeseHead around here AGAIN…..

  329. I start grad school tonight woo hoo!!!!

  330. Then shower before you touch anything here after your long weekend of goat groping.

    Dude – I wore my waders.

  331. Yay, sohos! You’re gonna get smart! What’re you going to study (again)?

  332. Hey!, Grad School? I remember this!

    old school sox and sohos

    http://tinyurl.com/l4m89j

  333. L to R: Jazz, Sox

    http://tinyurl.com/6jg3pd

  334. Dude – I wore my waders.

    I don’t really think it counts if wiser is in one pant leg and wiserbud is in the other. What a time for Ms. PattyAnn to have the “Hostages Handbook”….

  335. My, what big teeth I have…

  336. My, what big teeth I have…

    No wonder I got fleas.

  337. WordPress has teh AIDS again. I blame Rosetta’s new avatar.

  338. WordPress has teh AIDS again. I blame Rosetta’s new avatar.

    RACIST AND POTENTIALLY SEXIST!!!!

  339. I’m thinking Rosetta’s new avatar, Caster Semenya, is not being marketed correctly in this Obama Economy. With health care now going to be lean and mean, efficiecy is at a premium. With Caster Semenya, there could be a three-way with two people.

    * Dons RainSuit for Rotten Tomato Onslaught *

  340. Rosetta:

    http://tinyurl.com/lke3g9

  341. Hostagettes:

    http://tinyurl.com/b4yy4f

  342. BRING BACK DINO!

    BRING BACK DINO!

    BRING BACK DINO!

  343. in Literature Jazz

  344. BRING BACK DINO!

    You axed for it.

  345. BRING BACK DINO!

    With or without the squirrel.

  346. Sorry, sohita. You mentioned that to me once. I have a brain like a sieve sometimes.

  347. Dino shall return.

    He’s is rehab for a short while.

  348. in Literature walking on level ground while giving Count a boot in the butt Jazz

    Fixed

  349. Dino shall return.

    He’s is rehab for a short while.

    Better hurry up, Titanium Livers may not be covered under socialized medicine.

  350. BRING BACK DINO!

    okey dokey.

    http://tinyurl.com/norkc9

  351. new poat

  352. That’s Too nice, when it comes in india hope it can make a Rocking place for youngster.. hope that come true.

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