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May 12, 2012
Categories: asshole, cat blogging, cereal, funny, racist, Your mom likes this, Z - we don't have a Z . . Author: Jewstin

327 Comments

Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 9:31 am

Fist!
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 9:37 am

Good morn. Continuing to send well wishes in MCPO and family’s general direction.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 9:45 am

7 cm at 9:16 am – she’s in the home stretch now!

Our neighborhood’s “Tour of Homes” is this weekend, and they kick it off with a Neighborhood Parade. Our street is along the parade route, so DD#3 had to move her car from the street to the driveway last night.

It starts in about an hour – hopefully Rebecca will get up in time to see it pass by….
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 9:46 am

>> she’s in the home stretch now!

Probably could’ve been phrased better.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 9:52 am

Carol Burnett said “if you want to see what labor feels like, imagine pulling your lower lip over your head”.

Somebody else said “it’s a lot like pulling a pot roast through your nostril.”
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 9:55 am

well, since it’s early and I feel like stirring the pot:

I’m actually pro-gay marriage, as long as churches are not forced to perform them if it against their beliefs.

It’s not about normalizing anything (gays are pretty much already normalized into society, whether you know it or not, which is kind of the definition of “normalized”)

It’s about issues such as visitation rights, inheritance rights, and other things that married couples take for granted. Decisions that would normally be made by a spouse cannot be made by a gay partner. And yes, even health insurance coverage which is taken for granted by hetero married couples can be ridiculously difficult, if not impossible, for a gay person to get for their significant other.

My only issue with this whole argument is that the militant, “in-your-face” gays won’t stop there. They will demand that churches perform their weddings and, if they refuse, they will attempt to bring the power of the government down on the offending church.

Unfortunately, this is where the gays do themselves no favors and make no friends.

So yeah, until someone can give me a really good explanation as to how two gays marrying will impact my marriage on iota, without getting into the “slippery slope” argument, I’m in support of people being able to marry, regardless of their being straight or gay.

Of course, I’m just a NE RINO, so what do I know?
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 9:56 am

**butt wiggles in anticipation of a new baby**

HURRY UP!!
Comment by clintbird on May 12, 2012 9:59 am

So wiser, why won’t all encompassing civil unions handle the issues your raised?
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 10:05 am

Wiser, virtually all the concerns of gays you mention above can be addressed today by way of good estate planning. In fact, that same level of estate planning should be done my heterosexual couples as well.

Heck, there are estate planning attorneys in CA that work the niche market of gay couples quite successfully.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:06 am

So wiser, why won’t all encompassing civil unions handle the issues your raised?

I believe they would indeed. I’ve long said that the government needs to get out the marriage business, and instead of issuing marriage licenses, issue civil union licenses, and only the church would perform and sanctify a marriage.

That would certainly resolve a lot of the “equal rights” arguments, doncha think?
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 10:07 am

What wiser said. I actually had a shorter version of some of that same thought on my comment in the dead thread.

I’m nominally supportive of gay marriage, but after watching the “we just want civil unions” bait-and-switch pulled by the activists, I don’t think the slippery slope on religious freedom can just be ignored either.

Wonder NE RINO! Twin powers: ACTIVATE!
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 10:07 am

I think I know why gay marriage polls so well, yet gets whipped in actual voter referendums so badly each time.

There’s a disconnect between a person’s own opinion, and whether they believe public policy must reflect it. It has to be pretty important, for them to think they need to change law over it.

They personally do not care if gays marry, in an *individual* sense, and do not really care to intrude on other people’s personal lives. So that’s how they answer the opinion polls. Because it is not important to them, what other people do. Most ordinary folks want to be left alone, and want to leave others alone.

But when asked to actually shift long-established public policy to accommodate what is, at its core (forgive me, but it is true) just a noisy and bitchy minority, THEN people dig in their heels and refuse to give the vital assist. Because even though they personally do not oppose gay marriage they do not believe it is important enough to enshrine or protect in law.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 10:08 am

Heh.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/05/472-ann-romney-blouses-1-michelle-obama-spanish-vacation/
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 10:10 am

On some of this stuff, too, we need to look at the root issue and not compound one mistake with another.

Take, for example, the unlimited marital exemption afforded to hetero couples but not gays under the estate tax.

This isn’t a hetero/gay issue so much as it is another example of the immorality of the estate tax itself. Get rid of that fucker and, problem solved.
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 10:12 am

Yeah, and they say they only want one thing, but they show they were lying all along when they pivot and make like a bee for the next prize. If this goes through, churches will be under relentless assault. We already saw how much regard lefties have for religious freedom with the health care mandates.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:12 am

Wiser, virtually all the concerns of gays you mention above can be addressed today by way of good estate planning.

But in cases where that planning is not done, in a marriage, the spouse has more say in how things are handled than the person’s parents/siblings, etc. Not so in a gay relationship, unless there is some government sanction of their union.

Again, the types of things that a straight married couple takes for granted are not available to a gay “married” couple without some sort of legal sanction. As soon as a hetero couple marries, all sorts of legal rights are automatically bestowed upon to each other. But those same rights are denied to gay couples, without some carefully crafted and expensive legal wranglings, simply because they are denied the right to marry (or join into a legally sanctioned civil union, which, just for the sake of brevity, I am defining as “marriage”).
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:13 am

Wonder NE RINO! Twin powers: ACTIVATE!

FORM OF FABIO!
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 10:20 am

If the militant gay community had put 1% of the effort they’ve put into legalizing gay marriage into tweaking the estate and inheritance laws, they may have had a good deal of success.

And it takes about as much effort to do the estate planning as it does to get a marriage license.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:20 am

If this goes through, churches will be under relentless assault.

I would like to believe that their relentless push to have churches sanction their union is a negotiating ploy. Ask for more than you want, then concede that to get what you wanted in the first place.

I would like to believe that, but I know it isn’t true. For too many on the left, religious institutions are always going to be targets.
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 10:20 am

Here’s your Masters champ, folks:

http://twitter.com/#!/bubbawatson/status/201314298084081664
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:21 am

And it takes about as much effort to do the estate planning as it does to get a marriage license.

bzzzt!

marriage license: $20 and a single form at city hall.

You ever see what a lawyer charges by the hour?
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 10:22 am

I will marry a reasonably nice looking gay guy if he’s willing to do my laundry.

I hate doing the laundry.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:23 am

And, as the family situation changes, the estate planning option requires constant updating.

Not so in a marriage. Those changes are inherent in the marriage agreement and are recognized by law without having to do anything at all.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 10:24 am

I’m sorry, I just don’t care. The case hasn’t been made to my satisfaction to redefine a cornerstone of civilization for the sake of a precious few fragile snowflakes. Change it for this, and the definition becomes permanently plastic until it becomes meaningless, which is the real end-goal anyhow.
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 10:26 am

You can find free estate planning software online!
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:26 am

I will marry a reasonably nice looking gay guy if he’s willing to do my laundry.

Well, from what I’ve seen, you do have the ability to make a man very happy….
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 10:32 am

For all of their “But look at Europe!!!!!” blather, they’ve chosen to overlook a few Inconvenient Truths – the European Court of Human Rights won’t “approve” gay marriage, either:

Judges also said that if same-sex unions became lawful, any church that refuses to marry gay couples could be charged with discrimination.

http://thewesternexperience.com/2012/03/21/european-court-denies-gay-marriage-a-human-right/
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 10:42 am

I suspect the ACLU and the HRC are the ones beating the drum for gay marriage in order to have a bludgeon they can use to bully churches.

Replace marriage licenses with civil union contracts, and then let the churches and their congregations decide what sort of ceremonies are in keeping with their doctrine.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 10:43 am

If the “moderate” gays could wrest control of the “movement” back from the extremists, I think they would find that most people would be fine with a “live and let live” attitude. But it’s those few turds who are polluting the punchbowl and making it so that the rest of them “can’t have nice things”.

If it weren’t for the ones – like Dan Savage – who insist on living loud and flaunting their lifestyle in our faces, this probably would have been resolved a long time ago.

But you’ve got the militant gays who insist on filing suit against EVERY SINGLE COMPANY that politely refuses their business – even if they offer to find another company that will perform the same service at the same rate:

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/homosexuals-file-human-rights-complaint-against-t-shirt-company.html.

Or who flagrantly flaunt their homosexuality to a priest BEFORE their mother’s funeral, insist that they be served communion at said funeral (even though they haven’t attended church in years), and then make an unholy stink about it – without giving the entire story to their eager audience – because they want to force a religion to go against its core beliefs:

http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=27899

They don’t understand that this wins them NO friends in the community at large, and makes it harder for most people to put up with them.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:43 am

Change it for this, and the definition becomes permanently plastic until it becomes meaningless,

Not trying to be a dick here, but …. why?
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 10:51 am

BTW, lets not forget that we aren’t wholly representative of the conservative community.

There’s still a lot of people in the Bible Belt that find mere homosexual conduct, let alone marriage, an abomination, and think it should be prohibited.
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 10:55 am

Hate to say it, but I’m kinda with Wiser on this.

In the civil sense, marriage is a contract, and any two parties can make a contract that is binding. There is nothing plastic about it.

Legally, marriage is just a contract where many of the terms and conditions have already been written by statute.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:55 am

There’s still a lot of people in the Bible Belt that find mere homosexual conduct, let alone marriage, an abomination, and think it should be prohibited.

Understood. Which I also believe is not a very conservative position. Yannow, the whole “you stay out of my life and I will stay out of yours” thing.

Used to be that blacks were considered to be sub-humans, but that attitude has changed (for the vast majority of people, anyway.)

Societies evolve.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 10:57 am

Hate to say it, but I’m kinda with Wiser on this.

I can only imagine how much it hurt you to write that.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 10:57 am

We’ve had this conversation with DD#2 – who, ironically enough, is the one of our children who found her soulmate while still in high school – about “marriage”.

“By the power vested in me by the state of….”

Most people forget that clergy are given the “right” by the civil government to perform both a religious ceremony AND a civil ceremony in one fell swoop.

In the eyes of the “state”, a ceremony performed at City Hall meets the LEGAL definition of “marriage”; a church ceremony is a religious commitment – a marriage in the eyes of your God.

Mind you, the gay community COULD – if they wanted to – start their own churches; it’s done all the time in other religious communities. But that isn’t enough for them – they want to FORCE existing religions to ACCEPT them, and they throw a hissy fit when they don’t get their way.

It’s the behavior of a 3-year-old who doesn’t get their way, and any parent will tell you that you don’t give into a 3-year-old if you want long-term peace.

I’m willing to work with the members of the gay community who “get” this and who want to be allowed to live their lives in peace. We had a couple who lived behind us who had been together for years. It was truly sad when Tom passed away from cancer; Ted still lives there – they were/are very lovely people who just lived a quiet life and didn’t “insist upon themselves”.

I would LOVE for there to be some sort of accomodation for couples like Ted and Tom – and I guarantee you both of them respected a church’s beliefs and would never have insisted on having their way.

We even have a “gay” church in our neighborhood, and most people – myself included – never realized that it was “that” kind of church.

Because they are very low-key about the whole thing.
Comment by clintbird on May 12, 2012 10:57 am

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GRANDMOTHERS & GRANDFATHERS:
Have you ever wondered what the difference is between Grandmothers and Grandfathers? Well, here it is:
There was this loving grandfather who always made a special effort to spend time with his son’s family on weekends. Every Saturday morning he would take his 7-year-old granddaughter out for a drive in the car for some quality time – pancakes, ice cr…eam, candy? — just him and his granddaughter.
One particular Saturday, however, he had a bad cold and really didn’t feel like being up at all. He knew his granddaughter always looked forward to their drives and would be disappointed. Luckily, his wife came to the rescue and said that she would take their granddaughter for the drive and breakfast.
When they returned, the little girl anxiously ran upstairs to see her grandfather who was still in bed. “Well, did you enjoy your ride with grandma?” he asked. “Not really, Pop Pop , it was really boring. We didn’t see a single asshole, queer, lesbian, piece of crap, horse’s ass, liberal pinko democrat Obama lover, blind bastard, dipshit, Muslim camel humper or son of a bitch anywhere we went!”
I hope you feel better by next Saturday.
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 11:01 am

Lot’s of things are an abomination in they eyes of God, but not illegal. The top example, from a scriptural perspective, would be taking the Lord’s name in vain. Sexual conduct is way down the list.
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 11:03 am

I don’t care I don’t care I don’t care.

I don’t believe the bs that gays are living this horrible life because they can’t get married. I remember the days when they rejected the hetero trappings.
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 11:03 am

I can only imagine how much it hurt you to write that.

It hurt bad.

Real bad.
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 11:03 am

I don’t like changing the meaning of words.
Comment by clintbird on May 12, 2012 11:05 am

I don’t like no nipples rules.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 11:07 am

Show us your nipples, Clint.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:07 am

Lot’s of things are an abomination in they eyes of God, but not illegal.

Masturbation. (look out Xbrad….)
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 11:10 am

Yeah, who made up the “no nipples” rule anyway?

Let’s just ban that person.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:10 am

Which reminded me of this excellent bit by Father Guido Sarducci:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbSZlqKxAE4
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:10 am

Let’s just ban that person.

I’m on it.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:11 am

I don’t like changing the meaning of words.

That’s because you’re a cranky old man now.
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 11:12 am

Those changes are inherent in the marriage agreement and are recognized by law without having to do anything at all.

And?

I fail to see how having to do extra legal work is so onerous as to be considered a violation of human rights that requires a change in law and public policy.

Although, if this change does go through, I think it will be interesting and funny, how many extremely wealthy people turn homo right at the end of their lives.
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 11:13 am

Heh:

http://tinyurl.com/84awbzj
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 11:14 am

I can’t work up an iota of give a shit. The “live and let live” approach offered civil unions, the militant gay sisterhood won’t be satisfied until they can prance into the Vatican and force the Pope to marry them with the full power of government behind it.

We’re here. We’re queer, and we’re in. Your. Face.

This is not an issue of homosexuality, it is a political fight.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:15 am

damn, that video cuts off before the best line of the bit:

I had this dream. I went to heaven and started to pay for my sins.

And I came up 35 cents short.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:18 am

I fail to see how having to do extra legal work is so onerous as to be considered a violation of human rights that requires a change in law and public policy.

Imagine if, being a woman, you had to go through all of those same additional steps just so you could get a license to drive a car. Would you consider it fair?
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 11:19 am

Yeah, it’s just leftism. Leftism is jealous of all other sources of cultural power and tries to co-opt and exterminate them, one by one.
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 11:21 am

>> the militant gay sisterhood won’t be satisfied until they can prance into the Vatican

Kinkyyyy
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 11:24 am

>> Leftism is jealous of all other sources of cultural power and tries to co-opt and exterminate them, one by one.

Bingo. It’s the same as the global warmenin crowd. Even before their so-called science began to fall apart and was exposed as the sloppy pseudo crap that it is, I doubted the message because the messengers were all commies.

I tend to be distrustful of the motivations of commies.
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 11:25 am

Imagine if, being a woman, you had to go through all of those same additional steps just so you could get a license to drive a car. Would you consider it fair?

Well, actually, women should not be allowed to drive cars. The Saudis are right about this.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:25 am

Leftism is jealous of all other sources of cultural power and tries to co-opt and exterminate them, one by one.

Bingo.

My argument cuts as much against the left as it does the right.

I see no reason why the state can’t simply sanction civil unions and leave marriage to the churches. But it seems there are way too many children on the left who are never satisfied.

And yes, I’m quite sure their argument has more to do with attempting to tear down societal norms than it does with fairness or equality.

Doesn’t make the argument against gay “marriage” any more valid, imo.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:26 am

Well, actually, women should not be allowed to drive cars.

Yeah, that wasn’t too much of a softball, was it?
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 11:27 am

Imagine if, being a woman, you had to go through all of those same additional steps just so you could get a license to drive a car. Would you consider it fair?

No, I would drive a big rig through the state house and machine-gun down all the survivors I could, before turning the bullets on my own gas tank, creating a massive explosion that would burn for days.

Also, I reject your entire premise that the two issues are even remotely comparable.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 11:30 am

Also, I reject your entire premise that the two issues are even remotely comparable.

Why? It used to be that women were not allowed to vote. Was that fair?

(Okay, considering the results of that “evolution”, maybe that was a bad example.)
Comment by Michael on May 12, 2012 11:31 am

Wiser, if you lob one like that, I’m going to swing.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 11:35 am

>> Was that fair?

Maybe not, but it was smart.

Fair is for pussies.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 11:36 am

I fail to see how having to do extra legal work is so onerous as to be considered a violation of human rights that requires a change in law and public policy.

At a minimum a gay couple needs powers of attorney, medical powers of attorney, living wills, regular wills, life insurance benefactors changed, titles refiled with joint signatures, and possibly joint bank accounts.

You might as well forget about having a kid unless you’re raking in six figures a year.

When you die social security and some other benefits don’t go to the partner as they would to a spouse.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 11:38 am

beasn <3 lauraw

Though I may have to agree on the voting thing. Sorta, 'cause I'm a girl and I don't vote like a commie or with mushy feewings.

So, you neanderthals need my vote.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 11:42 am

At a minimum a gay couple needs powers of attorney, medical powers of attorney, living wills, regular wills, life insurance benefactors changed, titles refiled with joint signatures, and possibly joint bank accounts.

You might as well forget about having a kid unless you’re raking in six figures a year.

When you die social security and some other benefits don’t go to the partner as they would to a spouse.

It is entirely possible that I’m an ignoramous but I thought married couples or couple getting married, needed most of those things too.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 11:47 am

Yep, Mr. Beasn has to list me as benefactor for life insurance and we both have to sign for titles and bank accounts (when I made a separate beasn acct, I had to list him as benefactor)

- anyone can have a kid

- social security is unconstitutional anyways and going bust. Privatize it and list your benefactors to your heart’s content.
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 11:48 am

Your feel-good story of the day:

http://tinyurl.com/6vymyds
Comment by osoloco11 on May 12, 2012 11:48 am

I agree with Wiser. Civil unions for everybody and leave the ceremony to the church. I want the government to stay out of my church and its rituals.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 11:50 am

It’s recommended, Beasn, especially since the Terri Schiavo thing. But, marriage licenses still carry a lot of weight if those documents aren’t filed.
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 11:55 am

We’re getting killed.
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 11:57 am

Good morning, day trippers.
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 11:57 am

Yeah, the civil union is really the best solution.

But, that would require that people be happy with the actual meaningful and practical substance of a thing and leaving the rest of society the hell alone, so, not hap’nin.
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 12:00 pm

I believe in europe churches are now being attacked if the wont perform gay marriages.That will be next. As well as efforts to continue promoting alternative families in grade school Ed.
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 12:04 pm

Let’s just ban that person.

No need. She dumped us.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:06 pm

Imagine if, being a woman, you had to go through all of those same additional steps just so you could get a license to drive a car.

Being a woman, I had to jump through a LOT of hoops when I got married and had to change my name on EVERY SINGLE THING I had that was previously listed in my maiden name.

Surprisingly enough, I survived…..

And in the Terry Schiavo case, it was precisely BECAUSE she was married that her husband was able to pull the plug, no? It’s because she DIDN’T take the time to get a medical power of attorney and/or make her wishes known LEGALLY that the whole situation escalated in the first place.
Comment by osoloco11 on May 12, 2012 12:06 pm

Car in, European and Canadian churches are under siege. Mosques, not so much.
Comment by osoloco11 on May 12, 2012 12:08 pm

HS, between school and getting her ham radio license, I don’t think Peej has time for us anymore.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:08 pm

I believe in europe churches are now being attacked if the wont perform gay marriages.

Which is odd, because I was under the impression that many European countries have separate civil and religious ceremonies.

Didn’t Princess Grace and Prince Ranier have two “ceremonies”? A low-key civil ceremony and a full-out “wedding” with all of the bells and whistles, if I remember my history correctly…..
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 12:10 pm

What the fuck does she need a ham radio license for?
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 12:10 pm

I bet she doesn’t even make bread anymore.
Comment by ChrisP on May 12, 2012 12:11 pm

We had ‘Civil Unions’ in WA. ALL the benefits of marriage. It wasn’t enough.
The legislature had to change the definition of the word “marriage”.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:12 pm

Mosques, not so much.

Yeah – I want to tell the whole gay “movement” to take their fight to the Muslims FIRST. Whichever activists survive then have to go to the Black churches to plead their case.

After that, we can talk…..
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:13 pm

What the fuck does she need a ham radio license for?

To make sammiches?

*ducks and runs*
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:15 pm

We had ‘Civil Unions’ in WA. ALL the benefits of marriage. It wasn’t enough.
The legislature had to change the definition of the word “marriage”.

Which is exactly WHY states won’t pass amendments to approve gay “marriage”.

Idiot activists.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 12:17 pm

Yep, Chrispy. That’s why I have nothing to do with the gay community. They’re perpetually outraged and nothing will ever be good enough for them.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 12:18 pm

Yeah – I want to tell the whole gay “movement” to take their fight to the Muslims FIRST. Whichever activists survive then have to go to the Black churches to plead their case.

heh. I was just talking about that with one of the teachers here. I said that they should go to the mosques and have this conversation, and then, if they get out with their heads still attached to their bodies, we’ll talk.

We had ‘Civil Unions’ in WA. ALL the benefits of marriage. It wasn’t enough.

As I said earlier, my problem with this entire issue cuts as much against the left as the right. If gays would accept civil unions as an appropriate solution, this whole issue would disappear.

But they don’t want this issue to disappear. They need to be seen as the poor downtrodden victims, while showing absolutely zero respect for the beliefs or rights of others.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 12:21 pm

If only they would allow The Hostages to run the world.

All the problems of the world would be solved.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 12:23 pm

Good Morning Problem Solving Cool Kids
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 12:28 pm

Yep. Didn’t a British woman recently marry a dolphin?
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 12:29 pm

If only they would allow The Hostages to run the world.

All the problems of the world would be solved.

You’d ban the rest of us and install yourself as dictator until you were removed in a bloody coup led by beasn.
Comment by pepelp2 on May 12, 2012 12:30 pm

Is there ham in a ham radio?

Don’t really care about gay marriage. Immediate impact will be partners eligible for social security and health care benefits.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:30 pm

Well, there goes his chance to be Kenya’s next president:

“Simply because he has risen to be the President of a super power does not mean he can now start acting as God. He is nothing in the eyes of God and his plans will not succeed just like those who preceded him in such plans,” said Sheikh Khalifa.

He further accused the Kenya Human Rights Commission of propagating western values at the expense of religion by propagating for same sex marriages and abortion.

“God created man and woman so that we can procreate. How come we now want to behave worse than dogs who do not go for their own gender but know the difference between the two?” asked Sheikh Khalifa.

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/12/kenya-top-muslim-clerics-trash-obama-for-backing-gay-marriage-accuse-him-of-playing-god/
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 12:33 pm

You’d ban the rest of us and install yourself as dictator until you were removed in a bloody coup led by ~~beasn~~ KKA.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 12:41 pm

You’d ban the rest of us and install yourself as dictator until you were removed in a bloody coup led by beasn.

Liker I said, problems solved.

bloody coup led by ~~beasn~~ KKA.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

there’s a blast from the past…..
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 12:42 pm

3.8% of the US population is gay. 10% of the US population is left-handed (including me).

You ever heard a left-handed person making a stink about having to adapt to a predominantly right-handed culture?

No you have not.

(Mostly because they let us know where we stand in elementary school when they make us use those wimpy blunt-tipped scissors while all of the “normal” kids are allowed to use the pointy ones….)

I never saw a “left-handed” desk until my senior year in high school. It had never occurred to me that the attached “arm” was an ergonomic feature…..
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 12:44 pm

We’re at 10cm. Julia is already exhausted. . . napping between contractions.
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 12:44 pm

Good Morning Problem Solving Cool Kids

That sounds like an educational teevee show with a miniscule computer graphics budget.
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 12:45 pm

You ever heard a left-handed person making a stink about having to adapt to a predominantly right-handed culture?

No you have not.

There’s a premium on pitching.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 12:46 pm

Try learning to use scissors when you are six and a southpaw!
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 12:53 pm

I can’t understand why Theresa and MCPO aren’t rioting in the streets to protest the dextronormative culture that is so clearly ruining their very existence. SOMEBODY CALL GLORIA ALRED!!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 12:53 pm

Left handed people probably shouldn’t be allowed to get married, vote, or drive.
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 12:54 pm

Try learning to use scissors when you are six and a southpaw!

Thanks for the suggestion, but I’m thirty years too old and right-handed.
Comment by roamingfirehydrant on May 12, 2012 12:55 pm

There’s a premium on pitching.

**sees low-hanging fruit on pitching vs. catching, leaves it for someone else.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 12:55 pm

>> So, you neanderthals need my vote.

I would sacrifice your vote for the other two women who vote like idiots.
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 12:56 pm

Dammit, I was gonna snag that low hanging fruit!

Sean, wiser told me you were more of a catcher!
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 12:56 pm

We should raise taxes on left handers.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 12:58 pm

But we’re stuck with it now, so I’ll take your vote with mine
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 12:58 pm

Go, Julia, Go! Thanks for the update, Pops.
Comment by roamingfirehydrant on May 12, 2012 1:07 pm

Heh, thanks, XBrad.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 1:08 pm

Left handers should be among the first to be sent to the re-education camps.
Comment by TGSG on May 12, 2012 1:08 pm

Who had 4PM CST? Good thoughts to the parents and grandparents of the up-coming little anklebiter!
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 1:08 pm

There should be a southpaw registry like there is for sex offenders.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 1:11 pm

lefty haters
Comment by Pupster on May 12, 2012 1:16 pm

*shakes laptop violently*

BE FUNNIER!
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 1:17 pm

Fuckin’ leftists.
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 1:18 pm

Left hands are the Devil’s workshop.
Comment by roamingfirehydrant on May 12, 2012 1:19 pm

Heh, I’m outnumbered by the left-handed on my side of the family.
Comment by roamingfirehydrant on May 12, 2012 1:20 pm

Someone tweeted last night that they’d like to have a beer with Romney because that way, they’d have two beers.
Comment by pajama momma on May 12, 2012 1:20 pm

Good morning everyone……..and isn’t it a lovely morning?
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 1:22 pm

Up yours, peej.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 1:22 pm

PJM – STFU. Oh, and by the power invested in me by myself, I’m suspending the “No nipples” rule.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 1:29 pm

Poor thing is out. . .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61777586@N00/7182942646/
Comment by Howard Johnson on May 12, 2012 1:30 pm

PJ Johnson is right
Comment by LC Aggie Sith on May 12, 2012 1:35 pm

Sockpuppet FAIL!!

Also, good afternoon.

And also, hope things are going well with the mom and wee one, MCPO!!
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 1:38 pm

Shouldn’t you be out drinking, MCPO?
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 1:39 pm

Hottie – Haven’t done any housework this week. So, I’m standing-by and getting caught up.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 1:41 pm

She looks lovely while sleeping, MCPO. It’s close now.

Revised guess: May 12 between 2 and 2:30PM
Comment by Vmaximus on May 12, 2012 1:42 pm

There is a reason Dexterous is right handed and sinisterous is left handed
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 1:42 pm

Oh, bless her heart, Chief. Good thoughts going her way. It’s almost over.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 1:43 pm

Cyn – I slept about 5 hours last night. I’m just hoping it is over by midnight! I have a $$ match tomorrow on the golf course!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 1:44 pm

Vman – Just remember, left-handers are the only ones in their right minds!
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 1:44 pm

LaCrosse is surprisingly entertaining. I’m cheering for the Duke Rapists*.

*I don’t believe that is their official team name.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 1:45 pm

TnnsNe1 sounds like the voice of experience and knowledge on the issue of gays protecting their loved ones. Even makes the point that single gay couples would bring in more SS than a married couple.

http://www.gaypatriot.net/2012/05/11/where-real-marriages-find-their-support/
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 1:47 pm

Mr. Beasn is a southpaw. Wants to occupy something. SYWM.

Also says baldies get no respect.
Comment by pendejo grande on May 12, 2012 1:49 pm

I come in here for a little post-BBF smut talk and you people are buried up to your assssspirin bottles in politicsal conversatons. Fuck That!!!

Somebody email me a picture of their cerix. Stat!!!
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 1:50 pm

Chief, that baby is coming wayyyyy before midnight. If she is 10cm, I’d say within the hour.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 1:50 pm

Today will be the day, Chief, no doubt about it. Since her water broke so long ago now, they won’t let baby stay in for too much longer. You’ll get your sleep tonight so you’d better get your best bottle caps shined up for your $$ game.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 1:50 pm

PG – xBrad has that one of Janet Reno’s cervix. Will that do?
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 1:52 pm

Somebody email me a picture of their cerix. Stat!!!

http://www.elsevierimages.com/image/34597.htm
Comment by pendejo grande on May 12, 2012 1:52 pm

NoShit?
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 1:53 pm

Careful what you ask for there, PG. Xbrad was here earlier and could come back anytime to fulfill your request.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 1:55 pm

HA! Well done, MCPO and Beasns.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 1:59 pm

Happy belated birthday to you, PG, and may you find the ever elusive cerix you so desperately seek.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 2:00 pm

Now he’s campaigning in front of a couple’s garage:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143321/Obama-makes-speech-couples-GARAGE–hosts-vote-him.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 2:03 pm

Gotta vacuum. . . later, ‘taters!
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 2:10 pm

Hahaha! The bloom is officially off the rose. Obama is going down in flames.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 2:11 pm

I’m actually a screwed up lefty.. I write and eat left-handed, but I do everything else right handed.

I don’t know how I got this way. I was dropped as a baby.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 2:20 pm

I’m actually in favor of the no-nipple rule.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 2:28 pm

I can go either way on the NNR.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 2:33 pm

I’m actually a screwed up lefty.. I write and eat left-handed, but I do everything else right handed.

I think that MOST left-handers are that way – we just learned to adapt.

I never thought about the fact that a spiral notebook was geared for right-handed people until I saw a left-handed spiral – and my teachers wouldn’t let me turn in papers torn out of those notebooks because the “fuzz” was on the “wrong side”….

So I just shrugged and went back to RH spirals…..
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 2:36 pm

Hah, funny article TiFW, just posted it over at ace’s.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 2:39 pm

Also, I left for Tractor Supply about 5 min after my comment, so I’m sorry to not respond.

My reasoning is that once you go away from the one-man, one-woman, unrelated union (civil or marital) and give it the same legal status as we currently have for marriage, there’s simply no argument to be made against plural marriage, incestuous unions, or any other variation. How many wives can collect your social security benefits? Why only one? Why can’t everyone working for a corporation be joined in a civil union so they can’t be forced to testify against each other? It slides into meaninglessness rapidly from there.

One man, one woman, unrelated unions are simply the best way to make more of ourselves and maintain societal stability for a species with roughly 50-50 sex distribution at birth. The sociology bears this out. It’s in the State’s interest to have as many such unions as possible so that the State and it’s attendant culture can continue. Sanctioning any other union just isn’t needed for the purposes of perpetuating a state or a culture. I know things are changing, that adoption and surrogacy degrade this argument somewhat, but ideally every kid should have a mom and a dad and a healthy society should be structured in a way that is conducive to their union and subsequent parentage of their offspring.

There might be a hole or two in my reasoning, but healthy societies all have a common structure to nuclear families, and that’s not an accident.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 2:40 pm

OMG I made a blog post, I’m sorry.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 2:40 pm

Dave, you should add a picture of Obama and his throng during the Joe the Plumber fiasco for a nice contrast.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 2:42 pm

Walkin’ along the river road at night,
Barefoot girls dancin’ in the moonlight. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacHyPaEwDc
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 2:43 pm

that’s a good idear Jewstin
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 2:44 pm

and it’s straight out of the commie handbook.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 2:48 pm

and it’s straight out of the commie handbook.

That too.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 2:49 pm

Hey Scott, welcome to my side of the half-century mark!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 2:50 pm

You know what’s right out of the commie handbook?!

Stupidity. . . a whole steaming, smelly pile of stupidity.
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 2:52 pm

Boo!
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 2:53 pm

Leon what does copper sulphate do to a pond?
Comment by Sean M. on May 12, 2012 2:53 pm

Heh.

http://cheezburger.com/6214226944?siteId=92

Saw that at Hot Air.
Comment by Andy on May 12, 2012 2:55 pm

Dave: http://www.cnbc.com/id/47391193
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 2:55 pm

Creates a “dead zone” and kills a bunch of the algae and ‘squito eggs by binding up all the O2 in the water near where you spread the crystals. You have to do it in sections if you don’t want all the fish to drown. I have to treat the pond at least once a year.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 3:01 pm

Hey, Dave – I originally saw that at Pundit and Pundette – would you h/t them so they can get some hits?

http://www.punditandpundette.com/2012/05/garage-sale-fail.html

THX!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 3:02 pm

Creates a “dead zone” and kills a bunch. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8lT2AsFysA
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 3:04 pm

I can’t keep tinkering with it, toss it into the comments if ya want.

Ohhhh.. Andrew. Heh.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 3:05 pm

Pretty much just like that, Chief.
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 3:11 pm

Was that a “drive-by” by Peejama Mamma?
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:12 pm

Damn… and I just made a purchase for my son at Best Buy.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/11/ex-marines-best-buy-cott-gathers-steam-over-radical-muslim-ties/

Proud of my boy though: when I told him the story, he said, “Mom, cancel that order; I won’t help them fund terrorists too.” *sniffs*
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Good for the boy, Cyn. Try New Egg or Zip Zoom Fly for whatever you were buying.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 3:15 pm

Hottie – I think she has an alert set up for whenever the “nipple rule” comes up in a thread.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:16 pm

Thanks, Jew. Yep… them, and I already have a browser open for TigerDirect.
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 3:18 pm

Useless information from @TheGoogleFacts: “If you search “askew” in google search, the page will tilt slightly clockwise.” Yeah, it’s cool
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 3:21 pm

If you search “dickhole” does it bring up a picture of Obama?
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 3:24 pm

HOLY SHIT.. I actually focused on a shape out of the right eye. I could see this table. I wasn’t expecting that for weeks.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 3:25 pm

All communications with the hospital have ceased. Wonder if that means anything?
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 3:27 pm

I’ve had very good results with TigerDirect, Cyn. My last 3 machines came from them.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 3:27 pm

http://tinyurl.com/7mbl57t
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 3:28 pm

It means May 12 between. . . 2:30 and 3:00 p.m. (Fucking time zones. How do they work?)
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:30 pm

It means that Baby is coming right now and I will win the pot of gold! Yay!!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:31 pm

Most excellent news, Ex-Pirate Dave!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:34 pm

They are a good outfit, Leon; I’ve bought from them many a time. I’m at the newegg site now to try to figure out how many pins applies to which RAM for the boy’s machine.

*jams 204-pin RAM card into Best Buy CEO voodoo doll*
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 3:36 pm

Don’t open your Gateway or your RAM will get out.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:38 pm

My mother shared that same advice with me when we had “the talk” just before I started dating.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 3:42 pm

I never had “the talk”. I read everything I could find at my local public library. I was somewhat preoccupied with the topic as a young man.
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 3:44 pm

>> My mother shared that same advice with me when we had “the talk” just before I started dating.

*snif* *HONK*

(yeah, I left all that shit to Mrs. Dave too)
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 3:47 pm

I tried to telephone
They said you were not home
That’s a lie. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyR6Pxpzuu0
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 3:49 pm

Uh oh… the boy had me buy a single card 4GB configuration but searches at NewEgg tell me that it has to be in a pair config…?? I will see what TD tells me about this.

I used to be good at this shit.
Comment by MJ on May 12, 2012 3:56 pm

Creates a “dead zone” and kills a bunch of the algae and ‘squito eggs by binding up all the O2 in the water near where you spread the crystals. You have to do it in sections if you don’t want all the fish to drown. I have to treat the pond at least once a year.
————————————-
OMG. Leon is committing genocide.

/Portland
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 4:01 pm

Algaecide, actually.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 4:04 pm

So I just called Best Buy to cancel my order and after a bit of routing to the right person, I speak with a lovely young man, Daniel.

He pleasantly asks me why I’m cancelling my order and I tell him that I cannot do business with a company that contributes to CAIR. Without comment, my order gets cancelled, and I thank him for his assistance and express my disappointment that I will be unable to do any more business with them. His response: “Oh, that’s fine.”
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:07 pm

It must be SPRING!!

http://tinyurl.com/cop5fjc
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 4:08 pm

They must be counting on the massive Muslim/dhimmi population to make up the lost sales.

You’d figure the only surviving big box electronics retailer would be at least mildly concerned about this.
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 4:09 pm

Fucking spreadsheets. I hates ‘em.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:09 pm

Leon – No, they are depending on the unaware and uncaring.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 4:12 pm

You’d figure the only surviving big box electronics retailer would be at least mildly concerned about this.

Yes

No, they are depending on the unaware and uncaring.

And Yes.

Fuckers.

*weeps for Circuit City to come back*
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 4:18 pm

Where the hell is that baby?
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:22 pm

Hottie – I’m about to choke a bitch! Left msgs on iPad and phone asking for an update.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 4:25 pm

Charlie Rangel may lose his primary:

http://is.gd/HDUhlO
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 4:27 pm

Hunh, I knew I heard something negative about Best Buy and my danged senile brain couldn’t remember. Thanks.

I will be shopping with the newly grad-ee-ated, soon to be moving, boy who needs a whole lot of shiznet for his apartment. Furniture, pots/pans, dishware, microwave, vacuum, and a fun gift of a decent teevee, maybe DVD player or whatever gadget it has evolved.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:29 pm

Beasn – Shop on Craig’s List or eBay.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 4:29 pm

Hate to be an ageist, but if you are 81, your ass should be fishing somewhere and not for our dollars in a congressional position.
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 4:31 pm

Race hustlers are never too old to suck off the government teat.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:31 pm

Plus, if you get him a refurbished xBox360, he can play games, watch DVDs and, with cable, stream stuff on Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:32 pm

I’m sorry. Not Amazon; Zune.
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 4:32 pm

Leon – No, they are depending on the unaware and uncaring.

Right, dhimmis. They just don’t know it yet.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 4:33 pm

MCPO, if the son wants to do that, may the power be with him. He is getting a signing bonus and will be spending a bit of that for moving expenses and some furniture. We are going to buy him some new stuff up to a certain amount.
Once he sees how much his costs are going to go up, he may rethink some things.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:35 pm

This Photoshop is EXCELLENT!

http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/2012/05/help-us-double-down.html
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Now if this were my daughter moving, she would take our offered ‘older’ but good condition furniture off our hands and pocket the cash.
She’s a saver like her momma and grandma.

*wipes tear*
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Who just ate 2.38 lb of pork loin?

*thumbs to chest*

This guy.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 4:39 pm

Beasn – Herself and I were married more than 19 years before we bought a “new, from the store” bedroom suite.
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 4:46 pm

Chief, if it were up to the boy, he’d be living out of a box and sleeping in a bag because he ‘doesn’t want to move anything’.
Comment by TGSG on May 12, 2012 4:49 pm

I missed my 4 P.M.??? Howz about 8:17 PM.. yeah that’s the ticket.
Comment by TGSG on May 12, 2012 4:49 pm

wait… I said central time… still have a couple of minutes… PUSH PUSH PUSH
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 4:53 pm

The complete movie. An excellent show!

http://xbradtc.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/the-cruel-sea/
Comment by The Mega Independent on May 12, 2012 4:55 pm

Charlie Rangel may lose his primary:

I haven’t clicked, but I’m guessing it will have to be to an even more fucked up and corrupt D than him. That’s how it works in *my* moonbat state, anyway…
Comment by beasn on May 12, 2012 4:58 pm

Heh, my sister just poated a picture of my nephew on her facechimp. He drew a superhero mask on his face with an ink pen.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 5:06 pm

MI – Rangel is getting re-districted; more Hispanic than AfAm. Obama’s not giving him any help/support.

How’s that bus undercarriage look, Charlie?
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 5:20 pm

Any baby news yet?
I’m on pins and needles down here!
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 5:30 pm

Oh, great – she’s still breastfeeding her ADOPTED 5-yr-old (from Ethiopia), and she’s gone so far as to breastfeed at the PLAYBOY MANSION.

This isn’t a Conservative homeschooler; she’s a trainwreck who wants attention:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2142937/Time-magazine-breastfeeding-cover-Jamie-Lynne-Grumet-plans-stop.html
Comment by lclintsp on May 12, 2012 5:42 pm

I just sent Best Buy a “nice” little email. *High 5′s Cyn.*
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 5:47 pm

Baby D.G. was born at 4:37 EDT. She weighed in at 4lbs 5oz. Mom and Dad are resting and doing fine. D.G. will spend some time in the NICU to keep the nurses there happy.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 5:47 pm

she’s still breastfeeding her ADOPTED 5-yr-old (from Ethiopia),

Ugh. That’s just. . . ick.
Comment by ChrisP on May 12, 2012 5:48 pm

COOL!
A V-22 Osprey just came over the house at about 1,500′ in helicopter mode, then rotated the nacelles forward and hauled ass towards Gray Field in airplane mode. They are VERY quiet.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 5:48 pm

Baby D.G. was born at 4:37 EDT.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

Born on the same day as Yogi Berra!

lucky kid!
Comment by ChrisP on May 12, 2012 5:50 pm

Congratulations. Chief! I’ll bet mom is pretty wasted by now.
Comment by lclintsp on May 12, 2012 5:51 pm

Congratulations, Grandpapawpapawpawpa!
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 5:51 pm

YAY, Baby DG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVn5Oylq8KQ
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 5:52 pm

Congratulations!

NOW you can drink.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 5:52 pm

ChrisPy – Both of them sound exhausted.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 5:56 pm

Congratulations, Grampa!

Glad she’s finally here -
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 5:58 pm

That’s so wonderful!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 5:58 pm

Who won the pool?
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 6:01 pm

Congratulations, Chief!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:03 pm

Happy Birthday DG!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:06 pm

HA! Dave might have won the pot o’gold since he didn’t specify am or pm…
http://thehostages.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/big-boob-friday-74/#comment-723147
Comment by Vmaximus on May 12, 2012 6:09 pm

Congrats MCPO!
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 6:11 pm

We’ll be expecting a photo once everyone is rested up.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:12 pm

Oh, and I factored in that baby was born CDT. Right?
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:12 pm

Hottie – I will post when I receive. In the mean time, I’m breaking my diet and raising a glass of 18 y/o single malt.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 6:13 pm

Is DG the fourth baby Hostage?
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 6:13 pm

Good news MCPO!

Just in time for Mothers Day.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:14 pm

Jewstin – Does Floyd count?
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 6:16 pm

nah, I was in the AM pool.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 6:16 pm

Uh. . . I think Floyd is the benchwarmer for WhattheFuckFace Jenkins.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:18 pm

nah, I was in the AM pool.

So, I win? Please send cash or money orders to:

MCPO Airdale
86 Over-the-Moon Road
Up the Hill, past the Creek, PA

TYIA
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 6:20 pm

What’s the zip?
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:23 pm

Hotspur – Here: http://tinyurl.com/cgvv98r
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 6:25 pm

1st birthday will be on Mothers Day.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:26 pm

Scott – Ain’t that grand?! I plan on having her on my lap that day so #1 son can take the lovely Julia to brunch!
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 6:28 pm

yeah, good luck pulling mom away from her tomorrow.
Comment by TGSG on May 12, 2012 6:28 pm

Congrats mcpo & family!!

Ummm this morning I guessed 4:00 pm.

kthnx… back to work.. was kinda cheatin/watching for the happy event.
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 6:28 pm

You’ll scare the poor child to death. Sometimes granddads do that.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:30 pm

Hotspur – Maybe we could take her to the ghetto bar?
Comment by osoloco11 on May 12, 2012 6:30 pm

Yay!!!!! DG is here!!!! Congrats Chief!
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 6:31 pm

Damn straight.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:31 pm

Thanks, CrazyBear.

And thanks to all of you whackos for your kindness and support.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 6:32 pm

In honor of Baby DG’s birthday,

also born on this date:

Florence Nightingale

Katharine Hepburn

Yogi Berra

Burt Bacharach

Tom Snyder

George Carlin

Felipe Alou

Steve winwood

Billy Squier

Ving Rhames

Tony Hawk

Jim Furyk
Comment by Hotspur on May 12, 2012 6:33 pm

Evidently slashing, tripping, and interference are not penalties in lacrosse.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:34 pm

I was just searching comments and saw that TGSG probably was the closest. You are the lucky winnah!!!! Go out to your mail box RIGHT NOW! Your prize is on its way!!
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 6:37 pm

I made my guess of May 12 at 4:35pm about 4 months ago.

Seriously, look it up.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:38 pm

You are the lucky winnah!!!!

Who is gonna pay for this magnum of champagne I just ordered?!
Comment by Pupster on May 12, 2012 6:38 pm

We’ll be expecting a photo once everyone is rested up.

http://tinyurl.com/6wun245
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:40 pm

“Tom Snyder” HAHA! Well done, wiser!
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 6:41 pm

Hooray for DG!

In honor, I declare today a holiday!
Comment by Pupster on May 12, 2012 6:41 pm

Fuck pitocin!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:44 pm

Seriously, look it up.

No, and you can’t make me! You’re not my real Dad!!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:44 pm

Who is gonna pay for this magnum of champagne I just ordered?!

Um….. oops.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 6:46 pm

<i.No, and you can’t make me! You’re not my real Dad!!

Well, baby is born and the Yankees win. Good day. Good day.

Time to go shopping for Mother’s day.

Later, kiddies.

And once again, MCPO, congratulations, my friend. Enjoy being a grandpa!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 6:47 pm

Wiser – Thanks, brother!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:48 pm

Love that GIF, Pupster
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:52 pm

Be careful out there with the throngs at the drug store, wiser; it’s not like Christmas Eve shopping, oh no… there’s women doing last minute shopping for their moms, and they are vicious.
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 6:54 pm

Know what makes a great Mothers Day gift? Corona.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 6:59 pm

Corona

And a coozie. With flowers on it.
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 7:01 pm

YAYYY! http://is.gd/9uq6E1

Congratulations Pop-pop!
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 7:02 pm

Leon you can remove algae without chemicals. A bale of barley straw and some plants would probably take care of the problem.

How big is the pond?
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 7:05 pm

You can also bomb it with chlorine.

…

oh, a pond. I don’t know shit about ponds.
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 7:05 pm

I’m not passing along any congrats until I get a picture.

That’s just the way I roll.
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 7:10 pm

I spent all fricken day at a soccer field, and I’m apparently doing the same again tomorrow.

sad face.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 7:12 pm

I spent all fricken day at a soccer field, and I’m apparently doing the same again tomorrow.

That’s better than a vacuum cleaner on Mother’s Day, right?
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 7:16 pm

You need one of those coolers with wheels that doubles as a chair.
Sitting in a field with ice cold beer is so much better.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 7:23 pm

It sounds like Carin might need a massage. Maybe slowing down the car near the soccer field for the kids to jump out and then heading to the spa is the way to go. With a box of wine or something.
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 7:24 pm

Here they are!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61777586@N00/7184760950/
Comment by xbradtc on May 12, 2012 7:25 pm

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 7:26 pm

awww
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 7:26 pm

AWWWWWW! They both look beautiful, Chief!! So essited for you to be a grampa!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Knowing them, it’s easy for me to see just how tired. . . and happy they are.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 7:30 pm

That baby is kind of wrinkly. When does she get ironed out?
Comment by leoncaruthers on May 12, 2012 7:31 pm

How does barley kill algae?

Also, I’m 2/3 done with the CuSO4 for this year, so I’ll likely be finishing.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 7:32 pm

Beautiful, Chief!

Welcome to the world, little one (hope your grandpa will let me break his rule just this once):
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 7:33 pm

I don’t doubt that at all considering they went in on Thursday.

And I thought I had it bad when I went in on the 11th and baby came on the 12th. She and your son are awesome troopers!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 7:39 pm

Imma have another drink. Anyone need a refreshment?
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 7:40 pm

I’ll throw up a new poat – BRB…..
Comment by Pupster on May 12, 2012 7:43 pm

http://tinyurl.com/hellocarin
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 7:44 pm

I join you in celebration; thank you.
Comment by MJ on May 12, 2012 7:48 pm

Congrats, MCPO..
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 7:52 pm

The bacteria that break down rotting barley use up the nutrients algae need.

If your pond isn’t too big a pump, a UV light, and a mechanical filter would do the trick too.

Check out some forums like this one http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/farmlife/msg0716524924186.html?19
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 7:53 pm

Pours 3 fingers over 2 ice cubes for Cynnabun.
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 7:57 pm

Chemicals are a temporary fix. To solve the problem you need to remove the nutrients and your pond is probably fed horse poop every time it rains.

You need some heavy nitrogen users.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 7:57 pm

I would imbibe. But don’t ruin mine with ice.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 7:59 pm

Mmmmm Ice.
Perfect.

*looks down nose and sniffs at Jewstin*
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 8:02 pm

I don’t know about ponds but Scott’s advice works well for fish tanks. The best thing you can do is have regular circulation with lots of surface area for bacteria to colonize, and a good selection of aquatic plants and fishes to scrub nutrients from the water.
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 8:03 pm

Yea I’m grumpy. I could use a massage. A baby picture would cheer me up to. I did get to play with a baby for most of the day. Happiest baby ever. Would laugh and laugh and laugh at everything I did.
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 8:03 pm

Chemicals are man’s way of trying to tell mother nature, “You’re not the boss of me.”
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 8:03 pm

the circle of nitrogen
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 8:04 pm

Pours one pinky finger for Jewstin. “Here you are, smartass!”
Comment by Vmaximus on May 12, 2012 8:04 pm

Awesome Master Chief!
She is so tiny!
Comment by ChrisP on May 12, 2012 8:04 pm

Eugenics in America as late as 1972?
And in Washington? WTF,O?
http://tinyurl.com/ckzygle
That’s pretty fucked-up.
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 8:06 pm

Car in……7:24
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 8:06 pm

it’s so little!!!
Comment by Cyn on May 12, 2012 8:06 pm

We got our pic at 7:24 pm, Carin.
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 8:07 pm

*Hoping MCPO has great big fat sausage fingers.
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 8:08 pm

Would laugh and laugh and laugh at everything I did.

and no asked you to put your clothes back on?

interesting place, Michigan……
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 8:09 pm

Oh, and if you spend about $4 at the bait store on live minnows, you will have thousands of them in no time at all.

They destroy mosquitoes. It’s why we built our pond.
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 8:10 pm

Brand-spanking-new poat up!
Comment by lauraw on May 12, 2012 8:10 pm

The barley straw thing has a long reputation. You have to situate it so that it is only partially submerged or in such a way that both water and air can move through it. The thinking is that as the lignins are broken down by certain bacteria, substances released in the water stun and kill both single-cell and string algae (giving them more lignins to feed upon as the water circulates through the barley straw).

Some people use it as a first stage filter material under a fountain, or simply float a bale at the edge of their pond.

For smaller ponds they sell ground up pellets that can simply be scattered around and that eventually make their way into the filter medium.

Do you have a population of minnows in that pond, or is it all big fish?
Comment by wiserbud on May 12, 2012 8:10 pm

and when they get big enough, you can eat the minnows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc
Comment by scotw on May 12, 2012 8:11 pm

Write your own material Cyn!
Comment by Car in on May 12, 2012 8:12 pm

I just found it. I can now congratulate gramps!!!!!!
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 8:12 pm

Ahem…..

Brand-spanking-new poat up!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 8:14 pm

Jeez, Carin! I left it up long enough!
Comment by MCPO Airdale on May 12, 2012 8:16 pm

TiFW – Did you publish the new poat? ‘Cause I can’t see it!
Comment by Coonass Jewstin on May 12, 2012 8:18 pm

Barley straw like that will provide tremendous surface area for bacterial colonies, but good aeration and water flow are important. If you get anaerobic areas in the filter medium Very Bad Things will happen.

Who knew pond-keeping and fish-keeping were so similar?
Comment by Teresa in Fort Worth, TX on May 12, 2012 8:19 pm

Try it now, Chief – I was updating the Categories just for you…..
Comment by daveintexas on May 12, 2012 8:34 pm

THE SS MINNOW WAS LOST AFTER A 3 HOUR TOUR. A THREE HOUR TOUR